Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Apr 2009 10:00 UTC, submitted by caffeine deprived
Hardware, Embedded Systems One Laptop Per Child has refreshed its XO-1 laptop hardware, dumping chips from AMD in favour of processors from Via Technologies, the VIA C7-M. "In our continued effort to maintain a low price point, OLPC is refreshing the hardware to take advantage of the latest component technologies," OLPC officials wrote. Note that we are talking about the current OLPC laptop, and not any upcoming models.
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Who cares?
by bryanv on Mon 20th Apr 2009 15:17 UTC
bryanv
Member since:
2005-08-26

Isn't OLPC officially a load of crap by now?

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RE: Who cares?
by -pekr- on Mon 20th Apr 2009 15:24 UTC in reply to "Who cares?"
-pekr- Member since:
2006-03-28

Yes, I think that it was kind of first netbook attempt. I also wonder why C-7 - is that so much cheaper than Nano? Nano provides more performance per watt. I also wonder, if ARM would not be a better option anyway? Remember that those are not game PCs, so power consumption would surely be better with ARM, no?

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RE[2]: Who cares?
by poundsmack on Mon 20th Apr 2009 16:59 UTC in reply to "RE: Who cares?"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

C7 is cheaper than Nano because VIA has a lot of C7's lying around that they are trying ot get rid of (also if the system is highly configured for it it's a decent chip, though its no Nano).

To answer the post above it was also not the first netbook attempt, if it was there would be a different company suing everyone who called there small laptop a "netbook" ;)

In the end the C7 beats teh hell out of the Geode (for all intensive purposes). AMD doesn't even intend to update teh Geode anymore due it "the architecture being to old and not scalable for newer tech improvements." It's not that different frmo the old cyrix design that AMD got (Via got the better stuff and actually improved it).

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RE[3]: Who cares?
by bryanv on Mon 20th Apr 2009 18:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Who cares?"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

I'm pretty sure the phrase is: "intents and purposes"

"intensive purposes" is so wrong I laugh when I read it.

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RE[4]: Who cares?
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 20th Apr 2009 18:41 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Who cares?"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm pretty sure the phrase is: "intents and purposes"

"intensive purposes" is so wrong I laugh when I read it.


That's a pet-peeve of mine as well. Although in this case, it may actually be correct - at least if it's used to mean that one CPU is better for intensive (as opposed to non-intensive) purposes ;)

Speaking of which: does it bug anyone else that there's a button above the comment form called "Italic Selected Text"? I could be wrong, but I always thought the verb was "italicize."

Linguaphiles unite! Err, I mean join, combine, or incorporate so as to form a single whole or unit!

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RE[5]: Who cares?
by poundsmack on Mon 20th Apr 2009 21:21 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Who cares?"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

No I literally meant intensive (like processor intensive) purposes. Though admittedly it is both so it’s hard to say ;)

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RE: why not ARM?
by adricnet on Tue 21st Apr 2009 20:42 UTC in reply to "RE: Who cares?"
adricnet Member since:
2005-07-01

I believe they already announced that they are headed to ARM for the next-gen hardware.

The original XO computer benefited from a lot of software and hardware work by other companies which was only available because of their use of the x86 architecture.

Also, they wanted large PC OEMs to (be able to) manufacture the XO.

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RE: Who cares?
by darknexus on Mon 20th Apr 2009 18:36 UTC in reply to "Who cares?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I think a better question would be: Who even finds OLPC to be relevant anymore, if they ever were?

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RE[2]: Who cares?
by tobyv on Tue 21st Apr 2009 00:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Who cares?"
tobyv Member since:
2008-08-25

I'm sure OLPC employees find the OLPC very relevant ;)

the wider community.. not so much.

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RE[2]: Who cares?
by ssa2204 on Tue 21st Apr 2009 06:22 UTC in reply to "RE: Who cares?"
ssa2204 Member since:
2006-04-22

I think a better question would be: Who even finds OLPC to be relevant anymore, if they ever were?


Well they have shipped over a million units, I would consider that quite relevant.

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computers vs food
by lqsh on Tue 21st Apr 2009 00:21 UTC
lqsh
Member since:
2007-01-01

Poor nations could certainly benefit by receiving $100-$200 per child in food/medical aid/water wells/etc. vs $100 in computer hardware.

Is this laptop edible?

Maybe if you put enough together they can use it for shelter.

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RE: computers vs food
by Hypnos on Tue 21st Apr 2009 10:24 UTC in reply to "computers vs food"
Hypnos Member since:
2008-11-19

Food and medical aid do have tangible benefits -- in the short run.

Capital investments, esp. in rule of law and education, will help developing regions in the long run.

OLPC is supposed to be part of the "education" aspect, meant to help countries leapfrog into the 21st century economy (like India has, leveraging its large based of educated, English-literate workers). It's debatable how effective it is in this endeavor ...

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For Who
by _QJ_ on Tue 21st Apr 2009 13:56 UTC
_QJ_
Member since:
2009-03-12

To disreputable characters:
If you see the OLPC like a pile of crap, you are totally wrong. You are -most probably- living in North America or in Europe. Some place where electricity is "natural"... Hum ?

The OLPC is not for you guys, go buy a Netbook, an iphone, or the kind of gadget which cost a year or two of food, for an entire family in developing nations.

May I remind that OLPC is not your toy, but a project for intellectual nourishment of emerging countries ?

To criticize is quite insulting to the persons who work hard on this project. They do their best for the others.

What about you ? Have you a constructive idea for them ? Are you ready to help OLPC ? In a constructive manner ?

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RE: For Who
by dimosd on Tue 21st Apr 2009 17:31 UTC in reply to "For Who"
dimosd Member since:
2006-02-10

May I remind that OLPC is not your toy, but a project for intellectual nourishment of emerging countries ?


From the first time I heard about the OLPC project, I thought that despite its good intentions, it would end up being a project about bringing up "educated slaves" (IT low wage workers) in so called 3rd world countries like Brazil, India (which have some infrastructure in place) and not e.g. Ghana which are presently hopeless.

So, I'm not disappointed about the project's eminent failure. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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RE[2]: For Who
by Bobthearch on Wed 22nd Apr 2009 16:41 UTC in reply to "RE: For Who"
Bobthearch Member since:
2006-01-27

The OLPC was most effective as a hypothetical dream - combining new technology with political / economic idealism to enhance the quality of education and opportunity around the world.

But unfortunately the real world kicked OLPC's ass. Management problems, inflated pricing, competing commercial projects, mainstream markets encroaching on the niche, post-sale support failure, committed buyers backing out...

Simply, the OLPC organization over-promised and under-delivered while at the same time failing to maintain any level of technological or economic advantage over commercial products.

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RE[3]: For Who
by bryanv on Thu 23rd Apr 2009 16:22 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: For Who"
bryanv Member since:
2005-08-26

Which is why I repeat, who cares about OLPC anymore? I thought they were irrelevant the minute they dropped Sugar.

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