Linked by Hadrien Grasland on Sat 19th Mar 2011 15:40 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Having reviewed the Wave 533's hardware in the last article, it's now time for us to have a look at the most interesting part: the bada OS itself. In this article, I'll have a look at the boot procedure of bada (how long it takes, what happens on first boot), and then will discuss the app-independent UI concepts introduced by Samsung in this OS before going in more details about specific apps in upcoming articles.
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Happy ?
by Neolander on Sat 19th Mar 2011 15:47 UTC
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

So, Dryhte, are you happy with this, even though it's a few days late ? ;)

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RE: Happy ?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sun 20th Mar 2011 05:38 UTC in reply to "Happy ?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Its pretty decent. The OS is the only part of the phone I care about. Because its samsung, its very reminiscent of their touchwiz interface for their android phones. The icons for similar features are almost identical.

More than anything it reminds me of the first non apple touch screen enabled dumb phones that were supposed to trick people who didn't know how good the iphone was into thinking they were comparable phones.

So in the same way So basically, to me, it looks like a cheaper version of their android powered galaxy phone. I really don't understand why they are going through the trouble. Android works. The battery life is better on bada, but I don't think most people care. just recharge the phone every night.

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RE[2]: Happy ?
by Neolander on Sun 20th Mar 2011 07:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Happy ?"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I see several reasons for Samsung to go with another OS on my side
-It works on slower, cheaper hardware than modern Android. Android 1.x won't last forever, one day big security flaws will be found in it or people will start to ask for the latest apps. Sole cheap hardware able to run Android 2.x which I know of is the LG optimus one (thanks fran !), and LG is the Acer of mobile phones...
-A relevant part of the apps will actually be designed for mid-end hardware and run on it smoothly.
-Samsung have control on it, unlike on Android where everything is under of one company, with decisions taken behind closed doors although the source is open.
-Maybe some people don't want to see Windows happening again on mobile phones ;) At this rate, Android is going to crush all current mobile OSs, so more competition is needed.
-As bada competes with Symbian and the part of RIM's market that's not locked in, it has to address the needs of those, not that of higher-end phones customers.

Edited 2011-03-20 07:13 UTC

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RE[2]: Happy ?
by dsmogor on Sun 20th Mar 2011 12:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Happy ?"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Actually seeing the bada 2.0 presentation with a prospect it would be the next defacto feature phone experience for the biggest player in the field left me preety excited.
I for one no longer perceive Bada as a redundant also ran. They are definately pursuing to find their niche, specifically to fill the gap the symbian death has left. Their feature list could be used as a cannonical goal plan for any future phone os contender.
And as for battery life, I beg to differ, battery life is a critically important feature for something used a primary communication device.
Ok maybe the difference between 1.5 and 1 day of active use isn't that important. But 4-5 days of say sporadic web activity + phone use makes a world of a difference.

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Screenshots please!
by VZsolt on Sat 19th Mar 2011 17:15 UTC
VZsolt
Member since:
2008-10-31

Dude, why are you taking photos of the screen?
Push the menu and the lock buttons together to take screenshots ;)

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RE: Screenshots please!
by Neolander on Sat 19th Mar 2011 17:23 UTC in reply to "Screenshots please!"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Nice trick ! Will use it in app reviews, if I manage to remember about it.

To think that I had finally managed to make okay-looking photos, noticeably getting rid of most Moiré patterns... ;)

Edited 2011-03-19 17:40 UTC

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Data on/off quick access Android
by fran on Sat 19th Mar 2011 18:37 UTC
fran
Member since:
2010-08-06

"As you can see, this is a very interesting place where you can quickly toggle wifi/bluetooth and silent mode."

In Android you have an extra quick access button in addition to above.Switch off/on data services, thus preventing applications continually updating/syncing.
(There is another way also, but it involves a few extra steps)

I generally leave that off and only and activate it when I browse or need applications like weather and email and other to sync.

Hopefully we'll see this in BADA 2.0

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Swipe to unlock
by iphitus on Sun 20th Mar 2011 06:30 UTC
iphitus
Member since:
2006-03-27

I find swipe to unlock quite effective. It's difficult to accidentally unlock, quick and can be done with one hand. That puzzle mechanism seems clever, reducing the steps to get to missed calls/texts.

Most of your criticisms seem to be more with Samsung's _implementation_ rather than the concept itself - swipe to unlock isn't a "bad idea". It's often a better idea than a long press mechanism. A long press is slow and could easily be accidentally activated (if using a resistive screen, or hardware button).

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RE: Swipe to unlock
by VZsolt on Mon 21st Mar 2011 08:44 UTC in reply to "Swipe to unlock"
VZsolt Member since:
2008-10-31

Try holding the lock button for a little while, you'll see how easy it is to actually unlock the phone.

I don't know about the 533, but the S8500 can be rebooted by holding down the End Call button. That's a really funky feature for people with tight pants.

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RE[2]: Swipe to unlock
by Neolander on Mon 21st Mar 2011 09:48 UTC in reply to "RE: Swipe to unlock"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Nope, here end call does strictly nothing when the phone is locked, you can't even use it to go to the lock screen.

I was talking about capacitive screens, not hardware buttons or resistive screens.

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Comment by kvarbanov
by kvarbanov on Mon 21st Mar 2011 08:13 UTC
kvarbanov
Member since:
2008-06-16

Having worked a bit with the first Samsung Bada phone, the Wave S8500, I have to say that I was pleased with it, in absolutely every point, especially the largeness of the screen, the HD video and the screen itself, the SAMOLED. I found the OS itself very easy to use, and this is definitely a good move for Samsung, that's their first try, in the end. I hope it becomes more popular.

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EFL?
by earksiinni on Mon 21st Mar 2011 22:13 UTC
earksiinni
Member since:
2009-03-27

Isn't Bada based on EFL? Anyone know how much of this is the result of the Enlightenment team's work or what the technical details are?

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