Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th May 2011 22:33 UTC
Games Somebody has just added the Portal gun to Minecraft. Your argument? It is now invalid.
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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Fri 6th May 2011 22:48 UTC
Kroc
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2005-11-10

Eh? That’s not the Minecraft portal mod I know: This is way, way, way better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Ud9esotDU

Edit: A better gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1o6htwsCtA Note that this is very early. The mod has been improved a lot since. Someone created a "CCTV" mod for Minecraft that could conceptually be used to create the look-through effect for portals, but I don’t know if that’s been done yet (or will be added).

Overall this is pretty amazing stuff. I can imagine Minecraft being used for all sorts of game prototyping. You’ve got to realise that this is a game that was never designed for this, and some modders managed to hack together a rough, playable version of an entirely different game in such a short time. This is really ground-breaking.

Edited 2011-05-06 22:59 UTC

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Whats with the graphics?
by MacMan on Fri 6th May 2011 22:53 UTC
MacMan
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2006-11-19

Sure, the Minecraft concept sounds pretty neat, but whats with the 1990 graphics? The original castle wolfenstein had better graphics in what 1990?

I'd probably be a little more interested if it looked as good as say Doom 2.

I doubt that its a limitation of Java, I've written a few things using Java and jogl (Java opengl binding), and no, performance is not at the C level, but its close.

Is this some sort of inside joke type thing of look how lame our graphics are but people still want to play our game.

Seriously, not trolling here, just want to understand the rationale behind the ridiculously primitive graphics in Minecraft.

Edited 2011-05-06 22:53 UTC

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RE: Whats with the graphics?
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 6th May 2011 22:57 UTC in reply to "Whats with the graphics?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Seriously, not trolling here, just want to understand the rationale behind the ridiculously primitive graphics in Minecraft.


Play it. It'll dawn on you.

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RE: Whats with the graphics?
by Kroc on Fri 6th May 2011 23:02 UTC in reply to "Whats with the graphics?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

You will not find more bang for your buck.

I’ve played for several hundreds of hours, and it cost €15. No other game has ever come close to that much value for money. Pokémon and Zelda games take up 50-100 hours and I think that’s great value, but Minecraft just blows it out of the water.

The graphics really are part of what makes the game what it is. You have to play it to really see that.

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RE[2]: Whats with the graphics?
by Dryhte on Sat 7th May 2011 05:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Whats with the graphics?"
Dryhte Member since:
2008-02-05

I agree as to the bang/buck thing.

This game is just too addictive, I'd keep digging, exploring and building for hours on end if I didn't have children to pay attention to once in a while ;)

I did, however, install a slightly more hi-res mod (Dokucraft Light). Why? Just because ;)

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RE: Whats with the graphics?
by umccullough on Fri 6th May 2011 23:57 UTC in reply to "Whats with the graphics?"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Seriously, not trolling here, just want to understand the rationale behind the ridiculously primitive graphics in Minecraft.


It's intentional - once you understand that the entire game is based on modular blocks you realize why.

FWIW, this game chews CPU harder than you would think - it struggles on machines that are only a few years old.

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RE[2]: Whats with the graphics?
by MacMan on Sat 7th May 2011 01:09 UTC in reply to "RE: Whats with the graphics?"
MacMan Member since:
2006-11-19

I've played it (OK, only for a few hours), but just could not get used to the "low-rezness" of it. I like the blocks idea, just wish they could come up with some higher rez textures. No, I'm not wanting something like Crysis, just some higher rez textures would be nice.

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RE[3]: Whats with the graphics?
by darseex on Sat 7th May 2011 05:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Whats with the graphics?"
darseex Member since:
2010-12-06

You can always just get a higher resolution texture pack. Default minecraft is either 16x16 or 32x32 (I can't remember), but I'm pretty sure I've seen some going up to something like 512x512, maybe higher.

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RE[4]: Whats with the graphics?
by Cirel on Sat 7th May 2011 17:37 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Whats with the graphics?"
Cirel Member since:
2010-08-19

Yeah, there are some awesome graphics packs out there. My favorite is "Gamedoku"

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Pack

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=205465

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I use Painterly myself. It's beautiful.

http://painterlypack.net/

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RE[4]: Whats with the graphics?
by Junglist on Mon 9th May 2011 13:47 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Whats with the graphics?"
Junglist Member since:
2007-09-07

Yes, there is an HD texture pack that looks quite stunning. I mostly just use the default though, as sometimes the alternate textures break when a large update comes out.

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RE: Whats with the graphics?
by pantheraleo on Sat 7th May 2011 00:52 UTC in reply to "Whats with the graphics?"
pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

I doubt that its a limitation of Java, I've written a few things using Java and jogl (Java opengl binding), and no, performance is not at the C level, but its close.


It's not a limitation of Java. I think it's more of an issue that Minecraft started out as a one man show. I don't know about you, but even though I'm a pretty talented programmer, I'm not exactly that great at creating realistic 3D models. So any 3D game I created by myself, with no budget to hire 3D artists, would have pretty primitive graphics too. Of course, people liked the game the way it was, and the graphics became part of its identity.

But just to prove it's not a limitation of Java 3D, check out these screenshots, from Wurm Online, which is a Java 3D based MMORPG.

http://tinyurl.com/3aoryoy

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RE: Whats with the graphics?
by dvhh on Sat 7th May 2011 16:00 UTC in reply to "Whats with the graphics?"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

Focus on graphics is probably what is slowly killing the video game industry, I'm not against nice graphics but HD graphics made video games costs millions of dollars.
That is why the mobile game are gaining a lot of traction (beside the lower entry barrier to get an SDK), because expectation are lower in terms of graphics and cost are way lower, which allow dev to take risks and innovate (unfortunately this statement become invalid as they are beginning to rip off each other and copying flash games).

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You Play Minecraft?
by Shannara on Fri 6th May 2011 23:07 UTC
Shannara
Member since:
2005-07-06

... you are now invalid.

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Awww
by orestes on Fri 6th May 2011 23:19 UTC
orestes
Member since:
2005-07-06

Here I was expecting a recursively tiling window manager.

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RE: Awww
by DOSguy on Sat 7th May 2011 00:17 UTC in reply to "Awww"
DOSguy Member since:
2009-07-27

Same here, and it would have been a good title in that case.

This article is pointless.

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RE[2]: Awww
by Spiron on Sun 8th May 2011 09:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Awww"
Spiron Member since:
2011-03-08

To you it might be pointless, but to a whole lot of us Minecraft and Portal fans out there its brilliant. To the same token there are some of us who would consider window mangers such as Awesome a completely useless topic to create an article on.

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RE: Awww
by dvhh on Sat 7th May 2011 16:02 UTC in reply to "Awww"
dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

Almost the same expectation here, except for a 'better' fork of Awesome.

It would be great to see the topics icon in the RSS feed.

Edited 2011-05-07 16:03 UTC

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Hexagons
by MacMan on Sat 7th May 2011 01:21 UTC
MacMan
Member since:
2006-11-19

Hexagons and tetrahedrons would be cool.

I never liked the look of cubic structures, am really partial to tetrahedral structures though.

So, I think it would rock to have a Minecraft based on these geometries.

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play cube
by Skai on Mon 9th May 2011 14:03 UTC
Skai
Member since:
2010-08-19

Minecraft : like it or hate it.

(I hate, but admit one can get addicted).

About the design : look at little kidsn playing with cubes, assembling them ... and having fun.

No need of extra textures to have fun, if the game play is good.

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