Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 4th Sep 2005 17:06 UTC, submitted by Saad
Apple Apple Computer without VisiCalc would have been an entirely different company. VisiCalc, the first electronic spreadsheet, was a major cause of the success of the Apple II, and attracted the attention of IBM to the microcomputer market. Read about VisiCalc at creator Dan Bricklin's site and a brief history at Braeburn.
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v Slashdot or OSNews?
by Anonymous on Sun 4th Sep 2005 17:53 UTC
RE: Slashdot or OSNews?
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 4th Sep 2005 18:20 UTC in reply to "Slashdot or OSNews?"
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No idea, I don't read Slashdot. That site is a usability nightmare.

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v RE[2]: Slashdot or OSNews?
by Anonymous on Sun 4th Sep 2005 20:24 UTC in reply to "RE: Slashdot or OSNews?"
RE[3]: Slashdot or OSNews?
by Budd on Mon 5th Sep 2005 05:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Slashdot or OSNews?"
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Simply because he's not interested.

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very small program
by evert on Sun 4th Sep 2005 18:05 UTC
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I once ran the old vc.exe, and was amazed by it's small filesize and speed. The core functionality of modern spreadsheets is already in vc, but it is smaller and faster beyond imagination.

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The good old days
by Anonymous on Sun 4th Sep 2005 18:25 UTC
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FTA:
"The success would not last long, though. In 1983, Lotus 1-2-3 was released, and outsold VisiCalc. Personal Software sued Software Arts in late 1983. The company failed, but Software Arts ended up selling VisiCalc to Lotus, who promptly discontinued the product. Bricklin never became wealthy off the spreadsheet, software patents did not exist then. They both got jobs at software firms after Software Arts was dismantled at Lotus. "


Software patents did not exist back then. I feel bad for the invetors; however, (software) patents have run wild.

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RE: The good old days
by Earl Colby pottinger on Sun 4th Sep 2005 20:28 UTC in reply to "The good old days"
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Patents probably would not work anyway as spreadsheets already existed in accounting.

The control squences were probably copyrightable but Lotus 1-2-3 used a diffirent set than Visicalc's.

And yes, most spreadsheeting does not need all the features found in modern code. A stripped down spreadsheat would be a lot faster and easyier to use. But it would probably fail for the same reason you rarely see people use WordPad instead of Word ... People are lazy and don't want to have to think about what is the best tool for the job. Learn one thing once and use it for all things, even if it is a pain in the &*^*(&^%^^%

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RE[2]: The good old days
by Anonymous on Mon 5th Sep 2005 04:11 UTC in reply to "RE: The good old days"
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you ignore the fact that most modern software patents consist of the following: totally obvious idea + "on a computer" = patent!

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Bricklin
by punkcoder on Sun 4th Sep 2005 20:40 UTC
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I used to work with Dan Bricklin at Interland Web Hosting here in Atlanta, before I ended up leaving. Don't know if he still works there. Interland had bought the company that he worked at, Trellix. We had a couple good discussions about the symantic web. Weird guy, totally looks like a hippy with his grungy clothes and beard, but he's pretty cool.

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The Original Article
by Anonymous on Sun 4th Sep 2005 21:50 UTC
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... from the man himself!

Check out

http://www.bricklin.com/history/vcexecutable.htm

and download the original MSDOS executable. Not exactly Excel, but it's about 25K or so - beat that!!

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old news
by Anonymous on Mon 5th Sep 2005 03:41 UTC
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How many times do I have to read about an old spreedsheet tool. Your living in the freakin 80s man.

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RE: old news
by Anonymous on Mon 5th Sep 2005 03:55 UTC in reply to "old news"
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Your living in the freakin 80s man.

Right along with Bill Gates (a principal author of Excel) and Steve Jobs (who oversaw development of Cocoa in 19_8_7)... What's important is for you to realize that all of this has happened before and it will all happen again...

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Atari version
by Anonymous on Mon 5th Sep 2005 05:45 UTC
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there was also Atari 8-bit version of visicalc. it was better than apple ii version.

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Visicalc Nostalgia
by DoctorPepper on Mon 5th Sep 2005 12:25 UTC
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I remember using Visicalc back in the "old days" of micro computers (I truly am showing my age here). Just for fun, I downloaded the Visicalc disk image (dmk) from Ira GoldKlang's TRS-80 website and ran it on Xtrs, my TRS-80 emulator. It was a pretty fun trip back in time for me, to a time when computers and software were much simpler.

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Patents
by Anonymous on Tue 6th Sep 2005 02:43 UTC
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If we had had software patents in the '80s, things like the Save button, the Print button, scroll bars, the Close button, etc, would have been patented and would still be covered by patent to this day. As a result, computer interface technology would be significantly behind where it is right now. Software patents are a bad, bad thing. Nowadays, whenever anybody creates a new button, icon, menu or graphic, they patent the hell out of it so no one else can use it without either paying through the nose or opening themselves up to potential litigation. Imagine what your computer would look like now if every little obvious thing we take for granted was patented in the '80s. Now imagine what computer technology will be like in the future because of the situation we find ourselves in right now.

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