Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 27th Nov 2005 22:00 UTC
SkyOS "This release features new core components like the integrated mouse gestures, new Font system and API, new applications (Pixel Image Editor, ...) and various driver/system updates as well as more than 200 fixed bugs reported in our bug tracking system." In addition, the SkyOS team has decided that the version numbers got too confusing. Therefore, SkyOS v5 will now simply be named SkyOS. I might even start missing the "SkyOS v5 Beta 8.4 Alpha 1 of the 3rd Beta Released" headlines. In any case, here's the changelog.
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Excellent release
by Tomasz Dominikowski on Sun 27th Nov 2005 22:10 UTC
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Congrats to the dev team!

If anyone wants a nice to-the-point changelog, go here: http://skyosinside.blogspot.com/

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Nice :)
by dylansmrjones on Sun 27th Nov 2005 22:20 UTC
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I'm not sure about this, but I think it's about time you make a new review of SkyOS, and perhaps "Hobby" OS'es in generel.

Perhaps like "The State of Hobby OS'es today"-review thingy ;)

(But I still don't like the default theme ;)

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RE: Nice :)
by jbrader on Mon 28th Nov 2005 02:24 UTC in reply to "Nice :)"
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2005-11-12

I think that's a really fantastic idea. There's a lot of lesser known os's out there and it'd be nice to have a run down of some of them.

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mattst88
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2005-08-27

If anyone's interested, I've got a few SkyGI example programs. Maybe see if you like the API before trying for a Developer Beta account.

Anyway, here's the link:
http://mattst88.no-ip.com:44326/skyos/?page=skygi

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hmm
by Tomasz Dominikowski on Sun 27th Nov 2005 22:36 UTC
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I currently don't have time for an extensive analysis of of hobby operating systems, but I'll try reviewing a commercial one in a few days hopefully - SkyOS beta9. And to make things clear, that last one was not a review, just a preview ;)

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RE: hmm
by dylansmrjones on Sun 27th Nov 2005 22:57 UTC in reply to "hmm"
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2005-10-02

Well, I'll just have to live with a preview until the review of Beta 9 comes.

I like it so far ;)

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Whats up with this?
by Anonymous on Sun 27th Nov 2005 23:10 UTC
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int ThreadCreate ( unsigned char * ucName,
unsigned int uiFlags,
void * fpFunction,
unsigned int arg1,
unsigned int arg2,
unsigned int arg3,
unsigned int arg4,
unsigned int arg5,
unsigned int arg6,
unsigned int arg7,
unsigned int arg8,
unsigned int arg9,
unsigned int arg10
)

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RE: Whats up with this?
by mattst88 on Sun 27th Nov 2005 23:23 UTC in reply to "Whats up with this?"
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2005-08-27

That's the function to Create a Thread obviously. arg1-10 are optional arguments you can pass on to the thread.

I hope I answered your question.

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IRC
by mattst88 on Sun 27th Nov 2005 23:24 UTC
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If anyone's interested in joining us on IRC:

irc.indrea.net
#skyos
#skyos_dev for Developers

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hobby os
by Anonymous on Sun 27th Nov 2005 23:58 UTC
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Looks kind of ugly, ( unsigned char * ucName, void* ) or ( unsigned char * ucName, ... ) would be more elegant imho. It will also save stack.

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No change on the GUI side...
by truckweb on Mon 28th Nov 2005 00:10 UTC
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2005-07-06

The Window borders are still too big for my taste. It's a waste of space. Reduce border of windows and just add a little shadow and voilą.

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RE: No change on the GUI side...
by GregV on Mon 28th Nov 2005 00:29 UTC in reply to "No change on the GUI side..."
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2005-07-06

This is only the default theme, you can change it to your liking ;)

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mmmm
by Ronald Vos on Mon 28th Nov 2005 02:07 UTC
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2005-07-06

I'm seriously considering signing up for a beta. For toying and programming mostly. I'm just bothered by the 'standard' design where everything is hidden in nested upon nested menu's behind a big 'start' button, instead of simple menu's with at most 1 nestinglevel and multiple smaller buttons (1 for apps, 1 for config etc.). As far as I'm concerned the big button concept has had it's best time.

This is just my beef with a lot of desktops though.

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GPL ;)
by Anonymous on Mon 28th Nov 2005 10:15 UTC
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But GPL.... ;)

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What about the IP?
by Anonymous on Mon 28th Nov 2005 10:25 UTC
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I never heard how they settled the isues with FSF.

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Dear God.
by mattst88 on Mon 28th Nov 2005 12:22 UTC
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There are no issues with the GPL. Understand that.

Well, at least we have 10+ quality posts before that bullshit started again.

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RE: Dear God.
by bytecoder on Mon 28th Nov 2005 23:29 UTC in reply to "Dear God."
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2005-11-27

Isn't most of the userland GNU apps that have been ported over? I'd assume you'd have to release the sources of the modifications, but I guess he has. At any rate, there's no reason to get all testy/trolly about it; if he's wrong, you can calmly correct him.

-bytecoder

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RE[2]: Dear God.
by mattst88 on Tue 29th Nov 2005 00:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Dear God."
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2005-08-27

You know as well as I do that this same exact thing comes up with out one shred of evidence in every single SkyOS related thing posted on OSNews.

Please, drop it for the sake of all our sanities.

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RE[3]: Dear God.
by bytecoder on Tue 29th Nov 2005 01:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Dear God."
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2005-11-27

Is it not easier, then, to simply point to some proof instead of complaining about it? I understand where you're coming from, but still.

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RE[4]: Dear God.
by mattst88 on Tue 29th Nov 2005 02:01 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Dear God."
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What kind of proof would you want?

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Server-side Scripting?
by Sparrowhawk on Mon 28th Nov 2005 14:25 UTC
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2005-07-11

Does the ghttpd web server support server side scripting? There was talk of porting PHP to SkyOS a while back, but I've taken my eye off the ball as far as this OS is concerned. SkyOS running PHP with SQLLite would be a nice little platform to play around with ;)

I must go download that beta and see how far it's progressed since I last tried it (2 betas ago, I think)

My congratulations to the developer(s!) and other members of the SkyOS team.

[EDIT] Oops! I meant to post this on the SkyOS Webserver thread. Apologies for that!

Edited 2005-11-28 14:37

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There are no open source issues
by Ronald Vos on Mon 28th Nov 2005 14:27 UTC
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2005-07-06

Only some people that are dissapointed SkyFS hasn't been opensourced, though it was based on the open source BFS.

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SkyOS is a joke
by Anonymous on Mon 28th Nov 2005 15:41 UTC
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Beta 10, Beta 11, Beta 13...Beta 55, Beta 56. Their whole Beta testing is becoming a joke. They will keep on releasing Beta versions forever. Maybe our grandchildren will be able to enjoy SkyOS 5.0 Beta 983.

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RE: SkyOS is a joke
by JLF65 on Mon 28th Nov 2005 18:47 UTC in reply to "SkyOS is a joke"
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2005-07-06

Beta 10, Beta 11, Beta 13...Beta 55, Beta 56. Their whole Beta testing is becoming a joke. They will keep on releasing Beta versions forever.

Have you looked at how many bugs have been fixed since the last beta? I suppose you're used to Microsoft's method of using customers to beta test the software that's marked as release level. Me, I'll stick with someone who calls beta software beta.

Frequent updates are nice because I can get some of the more annoying bugs fixed instead of having to wait another six months until all (or most all) bugs are taken care of. Again, you're too used to the MS method of fixing (some) bugs only once a year (unless they make the news).

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v Big whoop.
by Anonymous on Mon 28th Nov 2005 18:14 UTC