Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Dec 2005 19:32 UTC, submitted by tacit_one
OSNews, Generic OSes Parallels Workstation 2.0 has been released. From the press release: "After months of focused research, development and testing, Parallels today announced the immediate general availability of Parallels Workstation 2.0, the world's first hypervisor-powered desktop virtualization solution."
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Nice, but...
by Anonymous on Thu 8th Dec 2005 20:37 UTC
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... I'd rather see Svista's Virtual Station releasing their never-coming FreeBSD version.

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RE: Nice, but...
by fretinator on Thu 8th Dec 2005 20:53 UTC in reply to "Nice, but..."
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I'd rather see Svista's Virtual Station releasing their never-coming FreeBSD version

Serenity is in a world of hurt, since their product was based on the technology in Parallels. They are struggling to find a new engine to replace it (see their forums page).

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$49? Wow...
by harochai on Thu 8th Dec 2005 20:47 UTC
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Pretty cool that they're offering it at $49...that's far and away the most reasonable price of any desktop virtualization solution I've seen. I tried beta4 and it ran very well, am looking forward to trying GA. Anyone else try beta4 or GA?

PS - I emailed back and forth with Parallels support during beta4, and they said that they might be offering FreeBSD primary OS in the future.

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RE: $49? Wow...
by fretinator on Thu 8th Dec 2005 20:50 UTC in reply to "$49? Wow..."
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Anyone else try beta4 or GA?

It rocks for me, I have been using it for production windows coding on Linux for months. The best things is not just that it is $49, but that you get BOTH the Windows and Linux versions for this price. Yeeehaw!

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RE: $49? Wow...
by DrillSgt on Fri 9th Dec 2005 00:05 UTC
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"The best things is not just that it is $49, but that you get BOTH the Windows and Linux versions for this price."

True, you can download them both but can only use one or the other. The license key to activate the second platform will cost another $49. Just learned that as I installed the Linux version after the windows version, and the program will not activate and gives a message about the license being tied.

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Feels fast
by danieldk on Fri 9th Dec 2005 00:36 UTC
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I have just downloaded Parallels Workstation 2.0, and it feels really fast. Especially compared to Win4Lin Pro. This could be a killer-VM at the current price.

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Video driver problem?
by Anonymous on Fri 9th Dec 2005 03:38 UTC
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I have a question about the Parallels VM. I was able to install both win98SE and win2k on seperate vm's. However I was unable to load video drivers for either one. When I would install the 865G video drivers on both, it would ask me to reboot, and when i did i would get the blue screen each time and have to reboot. I have an aopen motherboard with a 865G intel video. Ya think all these people having luck with it was just using the stock installed driver? Its really not much use to me with 16 colors and 640 x 480 resolution. I googled for an answer, but could find none .. nor any info on their web site .. nor any forums..oh.. i suppose i should say im using suse 10 as the host.. and the guest os'es was the two windows versions.

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RE: Video driver problem?
by Obram on Fri 9th Dec 2005 03:59 UTC in reply to "Video driver problem?"
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For Win2000 you should install Parallels Tools (menu VM->Install Parallels Tools). For Win98 you should connect CD-ROM image vmtools.iso (in Parallels dir in host OS) and find special video drivers on CD in guest.

Note that inside VM you have some generic VESA video card, not your host one.

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RE: Video driver problem?
by tacit_one on Fri 9th Dec 2005 08:47 UTC in reply to "Video driver problem?"
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On win98SE you can install video-driver provided on their "tools.iso" - there is such topic in their documentation.

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What's different with VMWare?
by Anonymous on Fri 9th Dec 2005 06:23 UTC
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Seems it's looks like VMWare, what's the different?

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RE: What's different with VMWare?
by DrillSgt on Fri 9th Dec 2005 08:35 UTC
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"Seems it's looks like VMWare, what's the different?"

The biggest difference is the price. For download VMWare Workstation is $189 full version and upgrade is $99. Parallels workstation is $49 for full version download. So the difference is $140 or $50. The main thing they have going is affordability. These prices are US Dollars.

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What do you do with it?
by John Nilsson on Fri 9th Dec 2005 14:38 UTC
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Obviosuly I don't need it or I'd know. But what would you do with multiple desktop systems that can be worth $49?

The only things that comes to my mind is:
1. Test unstable systems
2. Multiseat setup (which can be done within one xserver now a days)

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RE: What do you do with it?
by danieldk on Fri 9th Dec 2005 14:50 UTC in reply to "What do you do with it?"
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I have used GNU/Linux since 1994, but I regularly have to use Windows applications for homework. Some people would say that you could just reboot into Windows, but my workflow is much better when I can use a UNIX-like system, and integrate Windows programs when needed. I like CrossOver Office for this reason, but it does not run all applications (yet).

Besides that it is pretty handy for development, clean build environments, etc.

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RE[2]: What do you do with it?
by John Nilsson on Fri 9th Dec 2005 17:02 UTC in reply to "RE: What do you do with it?"
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Can you DnD files between the two desktops?

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RE[3]: What do you do with it?
by fretinator on Fri 9th Dec 2005 17:31 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: What do you do with it?"
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Can you DnD files between the two desktops?

No, but I just use samba to share things (mount a host folder on the guest image as a drive). More annoying is the lack of clipboard cut-n-paste. I imagine they will add that eventually. Currently I use a text file that both can access.

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RE: What do you do with it?
by fretinator on Fri 9th Dec 2005 16:26 UTC in reply to "What do you do with it?"
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Obviosuly I don't need it or I'd know. But what would you do with multiple desktop systems that can be worth $49?

1. Develop Windows apps while using Linux as my base OS (stability).
2. Create test images for deployment (to refresh the test image, just copy it over again)
3. Setup separate development environments (VB6, VS.Net 2003, VS.NET 2005, SQL Server 2000, SQL Server 2005).
4. Test out new OS's, like Solaris, NetBSD, etc
5. Run Legacy apps that require DOS, Win 3.1 or Windows 9X that won't run on XP.
6. Create server images for Postgresql, Mysql, Oracle without installing them on you hard drive.

Etc, etc, etc!!

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Re:Video Driver Problem?
by Anonymous on Fri 9th Dec 2005 14:55 UTC
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Thanks Obram, that did the trick. Obviously, I'm fairly new to the world of VM so I'm getting my feet wet here a bit. After uninstalling the Parallels, I did an install of VMware, and it solved my problem by giving me a warning that I could get better screen color and resolution by installing the VM ware tools, which lit the bulb that I had saw that Parallels had the same thing.

And like DrillSgt, I would pay 49 dollars for the Parallels vm if it works as well as the VMware, but its not worth 189 dollars to me.

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performance
by Anonymous on Fri 9th Dec 2005 19:46 UTC
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what's the performance of parallel vms compared to vmware?

the hardware emulated by paralle according to their website is either PII or Duron, which is extremely slow compared to todays machines?

I only need it to run very few, rarely used windows programs; which are generic office applications; anyone noticed is issues with the graphics and responsiveness of the apps running in VM?

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RE: performance
by fretinator on Fri 9th Dec 2005 20:41 UTC in reply to "performance"
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I find Parallels very speedy for this genre of programs, certainly comparable to Vmware (and many times faster than Win4lin Pro). I am using it to develop Visual Studio .NET applications with SQL Server 2000 on XP Pro. Plenty speedy for me. Just make sure you have at least 1GB of ram (or more) so you can give at least 512MB to the virtual session.

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RE: performance
by JamesTRexx on Sat 10th Dec 2005 13:13 UTC in reply to "performance"
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The instruction code emulated is the same as a P II or Duron, but that doesn't mean it's exactly like one of those. The emulation speed is dependent on your own cpu, so it'll be like running the virtual machine on a P II or Duron 7GHz (exaggeration) if you have an Athlon/Opteron/P4 etc.

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DrirectX?
by Anonymous on Sat 10th Dec 2005 09:56 UTC
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What does it have in the way of DirectX support?

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