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"Is it now safe to call their claims outright lies and deceit?"
It was safe to debunk it when they announced it. Only an idiot would believe such an all-round technological jump would occur. Plus a background check on the company shows they wouldn't have the abilities to create such technology.
http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page8.html
how about that ?
Have you guys been there at all ?
That link shows a very small image of the CES, with a logo of HP, I don't see atomchip on that image. Like this, even I can claim I was there.
However, this is more convincing:
http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/directory/rd_exhibitor_details.asp?...
I dont think you can either dismiss it out of hand nor accept it at face value.
It is a promising new field of technology and from what I know about optical quantum technology, it is certainly possible to build such devices. Whether you can mass produce such technology so as to make it commercially viable is another matter and I expect it will be at least several years before it is if at all.
I have 2 theories:
1) Hard drive+memory+processor companies paid him huge load of money no to produce his stuff.
2) This technology does not exist.
Otherwise we could see this at work. Why they are not showing it in public ?
BTW: I can also take Pentium IV CPU, put it in some package and call it Quantum CPU, and then file patent applications.
I think that they'll release it when Duke Nukem Forever is released
Edited 2006-01-08 12:10
Yes, you can dismiss it out of hand.
It's pure crap. Just take a close look as some of those pictures, and you'll quickly realise they're not just pulling your leg, they're cutting it off.
1TB of "quantum-optical" ram? sure...
enough of the crappy pictures, where are the working prototypes, eh?
No, this is crap, and everyone with a lick of sense caught that the first time around.
1TB of "quantum-optical" ram? sure...
And why not?
It is not technically impossible to build that ( though there will be technical problems to overcome during manufacture of course). Whether they have a demonstratable prototype or not is a different matter.
However, I expect NRAM to outclass this as its based on nano tubes and electron spin so it should be considerably cheaper and easier to make whilst having similiar charecteristics and densities to quantum optical ram. Mulitple manufacturers are alredy building such NRAM devices so competition too should drive the price of NRAM right down.
Andrew, are you indeed on another planet?! Cool!
<Nerd>
Stargates only connect to different planets, they can't really connect to each other on the same planet.
Unless of course Atom Chip are so truly advanced that their tech surpasses the ancients...Of course! They ARE the ancients. It's a big moneymaking scheme!
</Nerd>
Seriously though, this is a joke that gets funnier and funnier...Anyone still believe this?
a question is: how do you actually want to hold the quants? Or better to ask the old physical question: how much does a gramm of light/energy/quants cost? Unpayable.
Or even better: 04-12-2004 scientists at Max-Plank-Institute managed to save energy states of quants on cesium atoms and read that information again.
Here a small picture of that RAM: http://img.pte.at//lowrespics/1102090144i3608.jpg
Before that saving and reading data via quants was impossible. And now those come with their chips and 1TB Ram.
Lol. Hoax Hoax Hoax.
I bet there will be stickers e.g.: my computer has 1TB Ram now from them - thanks to quants. Put it onto your old DRAM and you have 1TB then.
Sorry for not being able to provide english sources, just search for max planck, quants and memory or similar terms, you will surely come to it.
Edited 2006-01-08 19:27
This is rather interesting, they show an NTFS volume of 10TB (or am I wrong? the image is a quite a bit blurred). NTFS in WinXP can only support partitions up to 2TB in size last time I checked.
http://detail.zol.com.cn/picture_index_30/index291502.shtml
Being at CES does not stop it from being a hoax. His 'products' are the hoax. They have never been shown as working, the 'processor' looks like a digital camera lense, and when announced awhile back he gave screenshots of Windows showing his hardware specs - only Windows doesn't support enough memory/hd space on 1 hd to show that amount and after looking at it carefully you could tell it was photoshoped because the numbers weren't aligned properly.
Hoax - no dought about it
... a pretty good job of putting fancy labels on CF and SD cards, and sticking them on top of old circuit boards. Oh, and he kindly provided the innards of a cheap web cam / digital camera, lens and all, for his "Quantum II Processor," including, you guessed it, a nice label. If the resolution were higher, I might be able to guess which model digital camera he used for the prop.
Gullible investors will always exist. He's in my opinion not crazy at all - just, well, um, something else. You figure it out ;o)
Cheers
Edited 2006-01-08 15:47
They took a normal headphone jack and stuck a few lenses on it, and engineered it into a Quantum-optical piece of RAM!
http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page3.html
Wonder if they'll release a HOWTO?
;)
Anyone who didn't see this the first time around, you have to see the video of their "solar memory" in action:
http://www.compu-technics.com/images/solar%20memory.WMV
It remains one of the funniest things around. There's no way anyone could possibly take them seriously. The only question left is whether they take themselves seriously. Is it a joke, or a truly bad hoax?
*edit* doh, the video was linked in the article Thom linked to.. oh well, there it is for those who don't RTFA
Edited 2006-01-08 16:22
Anyone who didn't see this the first time around, you have to see the video of their "solar memory" in action:
http://www.compu-technics.com/images/solar%20memory.WMV
I hadn't seen that since last year. And it's still just as funny.
I wouldn't call this a hoax, as that would indicate intent. I think this guy is just plain nuts.
It's honestly embarrassing for OSnews to even evoke that this story has possibly some truths behind it.
Heh, of course it's not. The whole net buzzed with this stuff six months ago, and OSNews too put this incredible story up. Hence, we must do our journalistic duties, and finish the story.
Other than that, Sundays are slow newsdays.
We would have working DEMO, Video that show the technology at work.
All we see here are photos and props. Not even a simple working prototype.
VERY gullible invertors, giving money on something they can't even see.
And every other memory maker would run to have something similar to show... Guess what, they don't, because it does not exist.
I'll just repost some info I mentioned when this story first came out : it's a link to actual scientists who work in this field, a university lab performing experiments into 'atomic chips', using quantum effects and light http://www.bgu.ac.il/atomchip/physics/newsfromlab.htm ; Introduction to the atom chip : http://www.bgu.ac.il/atomchip/physics/introduction.htm
Now compare how far the real life scientists have progressed to the outlandish claims of this company and see if you still believe they are for real. I sure don't.
Still my favourite from their website : http://atomchip.com/db4/00366/atomchip.com/_uimages/256Mx61.jpg , or how you can make a simple audio-jack into a high tech 'quantum' connector if people are gullible enough.
I think that for 1TB they will need a far bigger channel between CPU and RAM than it is on pictures. The problem is that we already reached highest FSB on computers because light speed is c and can't become higher.
You won't be able to pump all the data the CPU might want to use with 24 (or whatever there are) pins. The data and word bus(ses?) are just too small to provide any proper data transfer.
We are somewhere at 200Mhz FSB and it won't be more because the distance between RAM and CPU is just too big. Not to say about requirement for a different computer architecture because of bigger addresses (64bit is enough for 1 TB). Theoretically you can address so much memory with 64bit, but guess why the ppl don't support more than IIRC 4 gigs
If I'm wrong, im always ready to learn.
It's not hard to get an award from a tradeshow but, this could be a bit embarrassing for the "preeminent panel of independent industrial designers, independent engineers and members of the trade press" that judged this award.
http://www.cesweb.org/attendees/awards/innovations/rd_2005honorees....
What we are looking at in the linked photos is a bunch of nice labels on a bunch of parts glued together.
This guy would jump out of his skin at the thought of anyone taking a look under the hood, or attempting to operate one of his systems.
Sorry folks, this is nothing more than a PR stunt or possible attempt to sucker an investor.
Still haven't heard how they've solved the tachyon queueing problem ;-) ;-) ;-). If they don't, the processors will present their results out of order, to say nothing about the out of order problems with the reads and writes to the quantum memory chips. Slight compromise in usefulness there. ;-).
Wouldn't you like to be there for a questions and answers session with some people who really know their quantum theory?





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