Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Jun 2006 22:54 UTC
Zeta Magnussoft has announced a delay of a month for Zeta 1.21, a bugfix release of the Zeta operating system. The extra month will be used to improve Firefox and Seamonkey, as well as working on the driver situation.
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by Kroc on Wed 21st Jun 2006 23:13 UTC
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It's the year of delays!
* Vista
* Ubuntu (now over)
* SuSE 10
* Duke Nukem Forever
* PS3
* +Zeta 1.21

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Interview ?
by Tyr. on Wed 21st Jun 2006 23:16 UTC
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What happened to the Bernd Korz interview ? ( )

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most stupid marketing ever?
by _DoubleThink_ on Wed 21st Jun 2006 23:41 UTC
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I've spent a few hours searching for a trial version or liveCD of Zeta that actually works (I wasn't able to burn the CD image of Zeta 1.1 - - why no simple ISO???). Zeta 1.2 seems to be released for some time now but there seems to be NO way to actually test the system!

How do they intend to sell an operating system that only a couple of people know about and (almost) nobody can test? Do they really think people will buy Zeta without even testing a demo version?

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RE: most stupid marketing ever?
by digitaldisaster on Thu 22nd Jun 2006 01:12 UTC in reply to "most stupid marketing ever?"
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You can't have an ISO image of any BeOS version becuase all of the files need to be held on a BeFS partition on the CD as the installed requires the meta data the file system contains. If you put them all onto an ISO 9660 file system you loose all of the meta data etc. without which BeOS won't even boot

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Any furthermore, you need the BeOS/Zeta bootloader to be on the CD, hence the (at least, other than the other file used to describe the CD layout), two files a lot of BeOS (and Zeta demo?) downloadable CD Images have.

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by MYOB on Wed 21st Jun 2006 23:45 UTC
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In what way will Magnussoft be improving the browser situation? Or do they mean they're just going to take the latest BeZilla release of the time?

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RE: erm..
by fyysik on Thu 22nd Jun 2006 19:05 UTC in reply to "erm.."
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Wondering myself, as BeZilla developer:)

Maybe they noticed those "nativity" patches on the road and wish to include those into release disk.
Maybe they hope to get native printer working in month.

Last is more interesting, but i'm bit sceptic about it.

Edited 2006-06-22 19:05

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RE[2]: erm..
by !dev!null on Fri 23rd Jun 2006 06:39 UTC in reply to "RE: erm.."
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They might just wait ofr Ff 2.0 to be out and compile the 1.8.1 branch to have a stabler product than the bleeding edge compiles the bezilla team puts on bebits (but your work is nice).

Printing can't be made in a month too much works needed.

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Yellowtab's demise
by joharo on Thu 22nd Jun 2006 19:58 UTC
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Neither the previous news item on Zeta nor this one mentions a very fundamental fact: Yellowtab is dead. The company's office has been finally closed. All employees have been laid off.

See this comment to the latest Zeta related new item:

Now, this German article

makes it very clear that despite magnussoft's claims that development would continue, the perspectives are dire: According to sources cited in the article, Yellowtab had to pay royalties to Palm Source for each new release (excluding simple updates).

So, unless magnussoft is able to pay whatever Palm demands there will be no future for Zeta.

Edited 2006-06-22 20:18

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RE: Yellowtab's demise
by Ronald Vos on Fri 23rd Jun 2006 14:29 UTC in reply to "Yellowtab's demise"
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edit: ehh, nvm.

It's surprising to see they indeed fired all programmers. I don't understand why they got rid of the experienced old ones to form a new team of 10 however.

Edited 2006-06-23 14:32

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RE[2]: Yellowtab's demise
by sogabe on Fri 23rd Jun 2006 16:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Yellowtab's demise"
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YT was put under bankruptcy protection; they also closed their offices. This (and then some) all point to the same direction: that YT is insolvent. So, most likely, the programmers were not fired, but they left (because YT could not pay their salaries).

I see the whole transition (from YT to magnussoft) more as an exercise to keep ZETA alive at any cost. This may sound good, but I highly doubt that it is viable.

The problems that YT had as a company, and ZETA as a software product still remain. If it were a totally different company taking over, then you could give them the benefit of the doubt. But it all looks like it is a new team under the same leadership, so it is very unlikely that the issues that existed before will be overcome.

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by zetafan1 on Thu 22nd Jun 2006 21:15 UTC
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if you want to know more details about what magnussoft want to do with zeta and so on

you can read this interview that was done with magnussoft

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RE: interview
by joharo on Thu 22nd Jun 2006 21:48 UTC in reply to "interview"
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Well, this all sounds somewhat fishy:

What connection is there between the company magnussoft and the company yellowTAB?

Mr. Weinert Except for the sales partnership of the product yellowTAB ZETA there is no further connection between these two enterprises.

Why won't he admit to the simple fact that yellowTAB is closed? The company has shut down all its businesses. How can you have a "sales partnership" with an enterprise that has gone down the drain?

Edited 2006-06-22 21:49

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Let's try to weed out the facts
by sogabe on Fri 23rd Jun 2006 00:35 UTC
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This seems to be the sequence of events in the ZETA/yT saga.

1) yT is put under bankruptcy protection. All yT employees loose their jobs, and the CEO is the only one to survive. Offices are closed, and yT ceases operations (although it may still exist on paper).

2) yT gives Magnussoft the rights to sell ZETA.

3) A ZETA development team is being put together (by Magnussoft? Mr. Korz? Jointly?) to further develop the product for Magnussoft. This seems to be a separate entity from Magnussoft (and yT).

4) Mr. Korz is part of the ZETA development team.

yT is gone (and its employees with it), but ZETA and Mr. Korz seem to still be in business. This transition may help ZETA (and Mr. Korz?) survive the bankruptcy, but it is still very unlikely that it will do anything to make ZETA a more marketable product.

Too bad, because I love ZETA.

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RE: Let's try to weed out the facts
by joharo on Fri 23rd Jun 2006 05:53 UTC in reply to "Let's try to weed out the facts"
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A ZETA development team is being put together (by Magnussoft? Mr. Korz? Jointly?) to further develop the product for Magnussoft. This seems to be a separate entity from Magnussoft (and yT).

As far as I see, Magnussoft has merely stated their intention to do so. The most likely reason for the delay of version 1.2.1 would be that they have still failed to get the team together - which, if correct, is perfectly understandable: If I were a zeta developer who hadn't received his salaries from Mr. Korz for months, I would certainly hesitate to join a new team again headed by the same guy.

Edited 2006-06-23 05:55

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