Ubuntu bug hunters and users in general have discovered a severe bug in the Debian-derived distribution. The bug is rated as 'critical', and is said to prevent Ubuntu from gaining any significant ground in the computing world. This bug can be observed everywhere in the world, at companies, in shops, in people's homes. It's Ubuntu's bug #1.
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Seriously! If anything, this fluff news story is detrimental to the distribution.
They say there's no such thing as bad publicity, but really - do we want to test that out? I don't think so.
(minor update: Note that I don't think the bug is detrimental, I just think the phrasing of this article is. The bug itself is kind of amusing.)
Edited 2006-08-20 07:11
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How about the same law that keeps you from selling old fish or old bread or old chee... wait, no, old cheese is sometimes better, so scratch that. Not the cheese, do NOT scratch cheese. Scratch the comment ABOUT cheese, since old cheese is good sometimes. Old bread, however, should be illegal. Unless you need penicillin.
RE[4]: Is there a point to this?
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We just stumbled upon it, and found it funny. That's all. There is no law that says we should not have posted this 
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Raises a semi interesting point: what is OSNews's constitution on such things? I went to the 'submit news' form and found this:
"OSNews.com is always interested to hear from you the latest news on a vast range of Operating Systems and related technlogies, from the well-known mainstream OSes, down to small, amateur, personal or embedded ones."
A story that is 2 years old cannot be considered the latest news on an OS (or related technology). So, in the absence of any other information, I would suggest that your link is, at least, against one of your own guidelines.
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They would never realise it. Basically, the majority of people who hang around this sit nit-picking remind me of "comic-book-guy" grom the Simpsons...
Possibly that is the correct characterization, or more generously it might be because of the double standards and hypocrisy occasionally displayed around here by staff.
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Please, use the pumpkin icon when you link to something that you think is funny. This is a very old joke and it's been around for a long time now. Many Ubuntu fans are well aware of its existence. And old jokes aren't really that funny...
If you haven't spotted it before and you think it's still funny, please use the pumpkin icon.
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cow jokes are in today ? ok, 2 texas a & m football players are taking their mid term college exams. player one says question 1...old mcdonald had a _______ ? so, he leans over to player # 2 and asks the answer. oh, that's easy...old mcdonald had a farm, said player # 2. huh, what you know about that, says player 1, and how you spell that ? damn, boy, you're stupid, everybody knows you spell it with E I E I O, says player # 2
UT AUSTIN, HOOK 'EM HORNS !!!!
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Thinking this was important. I run an Ubuntu-based server, and my alerts went off on seeing this.
I see how it could be funny, but there at least should be some kind of lead in the article title. Some of us have heart problems.
Also this kind of thing starts minor flamewars.
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What the ..... ?!
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To the person that posted this article(????) and administrators of OSNews.com, if you want the public to take you serious, use the right icon, namely the pumpkin icon for articles like this. Or simply say some where in the summary that it is a joke or funny/irony type article.
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What an idiot and irrelevant article!!!!!!!!!
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Why aren't more big-name desktop PCs shipped with a user-friendly version of Linux? In the past, I was always told that it was because of Microsoft strong-arming the OEMs .. and that if MS were to stop this behavior, the floodgates would open and the masses would all convert to Linux.
But after the whole Justice Department lawsuit against MS, are they no longer allowed to do this, or is this still going on?
My theory is that the reason why big-name OEMs aren't shipping Linux is because it would be another OS they'd have to support. I suppose they might do it if the demand were high enough, but how many people out there are demanding that Linux be pre-installed on their system?
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My theory is that the reason why big-name OEMs aren't shipping Linux is because it would be another OS they'd have to support. I suppose they might do it if the demand were high enough, but how many people out there are demanding that Linux be pre-installed on their system?
The answer: Very few
Not much less than the amount of people whom have even heard of Linux, which again, is very few.
Having to port drivers, support the customers (ie. hire Linux support people), etc etc probably raises costs enough to offset any potential gain at having the whole whopping 1 or 2% of the desktop market that uses Linux buy their products. Supporting customers that don't know how to right click is hard enough, imagine supporting the same customer while getting him to issue bash commands.... *shudders*
It's simply cheaper and easier and more cost effective for the OEMs to ship Windows and tell the Linux users that if they want to use Linux, they are on their own. If the OEMs actually saw shipping Linux as increasing their bottom-line, they would have done it already.
And I think Linux is a great OS, and used it for years. I'm simply being realistic here.
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I went looking for a new laptop some time ago. I found a UK maker who seemd to have just what I wanted.
I went to their store and booted knoppix and it worked like a dream.
The conversation with sales sort of went like this.
Ok, I said I'll have one.
Thank you sir. Do you want XP home or XP pro with that.
Neither. I have my own software I will be installing.
I'm sorry sir we have to sell an operating system.
How about I buy it with no hard drive?
We still have to sell you an OS
Why?
Its the law.
How about I install my own licensed copy of XP? (This was not an OEM license but a full buy in shop license and the key had never been activated)
That is illegal as well i'm afraid
This was before I got wise to the MS strong arm tactics and just left the store a bit bewildered.
Now I wish I had gone back and recoded the conversation again this time with the sales manager and then made it public.
No company should be able to force you to buy software like what happens with OEM version of XP etc.
When this happens, the number of systems sold with no os or with linux will go up considerably.
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No, but maybe it should be classified as a plague instead of a bug. Windows can be found everywhere:
Examples:
Windows XP (Home or Pro)
Windows XP Media Center Edition
Windows Embeeded
Windows Mobile
Windows Server (many versions here too)
There are windows for nearly everything. And any company that tries to provide another OS prebuild in systems, it's threaten and has to push back. Happened with OS/2, and others in the past, and the same will happened to Linux.
As a joke, at least we still have a Windows free bathroom
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Remember when Soviet Empire crumbled? One year before, nobody expected that among the specialists.
The first task for Ubuntu people is to deliver a perfect and easy product. They really are not far from reaching this goal.
After that, things will get rolling amazingly quickly. "Give me a good lever and I will move a planet".
I am optimistic. The bug is about to be solved even if now nobody expects that.
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a) It is still "valid"
b) The comment thread of the bug, is still pretty much alive, and it's interesting to read through all the comments. So those who say "this is old story" did you actually read past the Bug description and the 1st three comments?
Waste no time banning this article with comments like "this is old", go ahead and read. If you don't like it or think that this is a "waste of webserverspace", then don't waste MySQL Space with useless comments.
Thank you.
A reader.
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...well I found this one quite a while back, while searching for info on an entirely unrelated potential bug.
It's slightly amusing, however the article title and summarization should be modified to give a clue as to the nature of this problem, as well all KNOW that 99.999% of readers NEVER bother to follow the links...
On a more serious note, fore me it's going to remain a bug as long as most of the good PC games only target DirectX & Windows, i.e. always dual boot, play with WINE, or use a virtualized environment. (I first tried VMWare YEARS ago when it first came out, but limited disk space and all, plus the fact that back then the virtualized video wasn't the ever "popular" virge series... still requiring a real deal windows environment to run games...)
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Linux is ready for the desktop and its usable as a desktop. The problems Linux has are far from being ready or not. Take the most non-technical user and ask them to install Ubuntu and ask them to install a Windows driver through ndiswrapper. They cant, Ubuntu and other Linux distributions dont make the configuration tools seamless and easy to use. With Linux we are still basically back in the early 90's as we still have to edit text files to just make a simple thing like hardware work. Also, the seemingly never ending fight between the groups and the desire to kill and label illegal proprietary software. The Linux community and distributors will need to learn to work with proprietary software makers, they are around and are not going anywhere. Now go ahead, call me a stupid, idiotic, Windows loser, Im ready for it.
