Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 20th Aug 2006 14:33 UTC, submitted by Tommy Borgen
Slackware, Slax Patrick Volkerding, Slackware's benevolent dictator for life, has 'released' Slackware Linux 11.0 Release Candidate 2. From the changelog: "This is mostly frozen now unless bugs (or irresistible upgrades) come up, so I'll call this update Slackware 11.0 release candidate 2."
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Slack
by Oliver on Sun 20th Aug 2006 15:08 UTC
Oliver
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2006-07-15

Really nice work - the best of the GNU/Linux distros.

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RE: Slack
by Jedd on Mon 21st Aug 2006 14:49 UTC in reply to "Slack"
Jedd Member since:
2005-07-06

The best. Sure is! ;) My hearfelt thanks go out to Pat. Slackware is the best of the best.

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stable
by evert on Sun 20th Aug 2006 15:08 UTC
evert
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2005-07-06

As always, Pat will give us a stable, reasonably current, and simple distro. No unneeded services, which keeps things simple, clean and fast. Slack makes a good KDE desktop, easy to add third-party GNOME modules, and nice tools if you want to compile your own applications.

It was my 2nd distro and I always liked it. It doen's do the bling blong thing, no fancy whizzling magic, but gives you control and stability in a world where most distro's try to hide their complexity from the user - while slack shows that complexity doesn't have to be hided, as long as your distro isn't overly complex in the first place.

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RE: stable
by Rocinante on Sun 20th Aug 2006 15:44 UTC in reply to "stable"
Rocinante Member since:
2005-11-18

I just want to let you know, "bling blong" made me laugh.

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RE: stable
by mkools on Sun 20th Aug 2006 15:45 UTC in reply to "stable"
mkools Member since:
2005-10-11

Couldn't agree more, i've test numerous distro's (Ubuntu, SuSE 10, Gentoo, Fedora etc.) but I always return to using Slackware. I can't wait for Slack 11 to come out and combine it with Dropline Gnome 2.6.

The dropline team does a great job maintaining GNOME for slackware and in my opinion making Slackware the best distro out there.

If you want to try it: http://droplinegnome.org/

Or take a look at the screenshots:

http://www.droplinegnome.net/?page_id=7

Ubuntu should learn more from dropline in customizing the GUI and give it a clean and shiny look.

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RE[2]: stable
by twenex on Sun 20th Aug 2006 16:31 UTC in reply to "RE: stable"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Dropline Gnome 2.SIX? Are they really falling that far behind?

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RE[3]: stable
by mksoft on Sun 20th Aug 2006 16:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: stable"
mksoft Member since:
2006-02-25

From their site:
dropline GNOME 2.14.3 Available.

http://droplinegnome.org/

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RE[4]: stable
by mkools on Sun 20th Aug 2006 16:57 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: stable"
mkools Member since:
2005-10-11

Dropline gnome 2.6 will come when Slackware 11 and gnome 2.6 have been released.

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RE[5]: stable
by patrix on Sun 20th Aug 2006 17:06 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: stable"
patrix Member since:
2006-05-21

You probably mean Dropline gnome 2.16... ;)

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RE[6]: stable
by mkools on Sun 20th Aug 2006 18:52 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: stable"
mkools Member since:
2005-10-11

lol yeah I must be sleeping, I meant 2.16 of course ;)

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Gnome & Slack
by joahim on Tue 22nd Aug 2006 11:51 UTC in reply to "RE: stable"
joahim Member since:
2006-08-22

IMHO Freerock Gnome is much better, closer to the Slakware philosophy:

http://gsb.freerock.org/

When I was trying to use Dropline, I had always problems with uninstalling PAM...

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Customizing Gnome
by zizban on Sun 20th Aug 2006 16:03 UTC
zizban
Member since:
2005-07-06

Here is an article I found about customizing Gnome. Good stuff.
http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/06/17/1538223

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can't wait
by bytecoder on Sun 20th Aug 2006 18:06 UTC
bytecoder
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2005-11-27

I can't wait for it to come out. Slackware has been a nice distro to work with, although I wouldn't call it exactly "stable." So far, I've had to reinstall slackware itself twice because it somehow broke itself. I've had to reinstall dropline and various subcomponents (mostly firefox) several times, as well.

Overall, though, the simple packaging system and overall speed is well worth it.

p.s. Hurray customization ;)
http://24.12.0.88/~bytecoder/screenshots/7-4-06.png

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RE: can't wait
by HagerR15 on Mon 21st Aug 2006 01:22 UTC in reply to "can't wait"
HagerR15 Member since:
2005-07-25

Slackware only breaks (in my experience) when you do an upgrade via swaret or slackpkg and don't read the changelog. Quite often a package will be split into two or three smaller packages along the way and the upgrade will not install the newly created packages.

For example, Jul 26,2006 x11-6.9.0, Patrick removed freetype and fontconfig into seperate packages. If you only perform an upgrade of x11, your system will no longer have freetype or fontconfig installed. You need to read the changelog with every update and manually add those packages that have been split off into individual packages.

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RE[2]: can't wait
by bytecoder on Mon 21st Aug 2006 01:26 UTC in reply to "RE: can't wait"
bytecoder Member since:
2005-11-27

The only automatic installer I use is dropline's. I pretty much just leave everything else in the base system the same, except for the kernel which I always upgrade to 2.6.

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RE[3]: can't wait
by HagerR15 on Mon 21st Aug 2006 13:44 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: can't wait"
HagerR15 Member since:
2005-07-25

Well, you can't exactly call Slackware unstable when you use a third party Gnome vendor that is specifically not endorsed by Patrick because Dropline replaces key libraries.

GWare and Freerock are the recommended gnome sources for Slackware as they retain the base libraries installed, therefore not compromising stability.

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RE[4]: can't wait
by bytecoder on Mon 21st Aug 2006 13:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: can't wait"
bytecoder Member since:
2005-11-27

Well I suppose I can't in that regard, but I've had trouble with vanilla slackware as well. Specifically, I've had trouble installing several times, the last time it couldn't install a bootloader for some reason. I had t o install ubuntu since I couldn't boot into my slackware system, but then I realized I could just use the grub it installed.

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Question about updates
by blixel on Sun 20th Aug 2006 18:24 UTC
blixel
Member since:
2005-07-06

I haven't taken a look at slackware in a number of years. (Last time I installed it was some time before 2000.) My question is about how security updates and bug fixes are handled. If there is a problem with a package that is included in the distribution, what is the method for updating that package?

Like with Debian, you just run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" to keep up to day. Pretty simple. Or like Gentoo's emerge system.

And most of the modern distros like Ubuntu, Fedora, and Suse kind of take it to the next level by automatically updating the list of potential updates and then informing the user that updates are available.

Anyway, I'm just curious how Slackware handles updates.

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RE: Question about updates
by kuril on Sun 20th Aug 2006 18:41 UTC in reply to "Question about updates"
kuril Member since:
2006-08-20

Hello.

I subscribe to the Security mailing list and use slackpkg. It works like this:

slackpkg update
slackpkg upgrade-all

Very easy.

For Security, Patrick updates Slackware 9 (if reasonable/possible) and all Slackware 10 releases: 10, 10.1,10.2 and current.

Ryan

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Time to upgrade
by Budd on Mon 21st Aug 2006 11:44 UTC
Budd
Member since:
2005-07-08

So,days of 10.2 are soon over on my machine. I will just wait for a while to have more 11.0 ports on linuxpackages.net
Gosh, how I'm in love with this distro. Remember now an then to actually buy the CD/DVD from Slack's store. They worth every penny.

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Is it normal that ...
by Akira on Mon 21st Aug 2006 17:50 UTC
Akira
Member since:
2006-08-21

during short period of time someone changes most of the programs in his distribution, changes the name to RCx, few days later announces final version, which is called 'stable' and .. nobody protests?

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RE: Is it normal that ...
by alisonken1 on Mon 21st Aug 2006 19:44 UTC in reply to "Is it normal that ..."
alisonken1 Member since:
2006-03-20

That's why it's a "Release Candidate" - no new packages, just fixes to current packages are updated for security or packaging issues.

A more interesting question for me is to ask "Why am I paying for a broken system?" - think Windows (flavor of the week) where anything can change at the next fixpack that's not security related - not just fixes to current stuff.

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