"Yesterday was our big day at Google, and we can say with a good degree of confidence that the Haiku Tech Talk was quite successful. We had a very special guest for this event: former Be Inc. CEO Jean Louis Gassée, not only joined us at Google for our presentation, but also gave a few words of support and encouragement for our project. It was great to have JLG's presence, as well as that of the several ex-Be engineers who showed up for the talk. We were also glad to see JAVA for BeOS developer Andrew Bachman join us for this special event. Take a look at the pictures from the presentation."
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It was really refreshing to see everybody together, smiling. 
Awesome to see JLG there too, interacting with the Haiku folks. Be made some poor market choices, but it really was a "good" company, in the best sense of that word. It's wonderful to see the people behind it still care!
Keep up the great work, Haiku team!
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The problem is - there's little that yT could have modified that would be applicable to Haiku at this point. Any modifications to the app_server or kernel would be fairly useless for Haiku as the app_server and kernel architecture are different-enough already.
The best thing that Zeta can bring to Haiku at this point is 1) drivers, 2) native software, 3) ported software, 4) users
update: added 4th item 
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WHOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOO!
Ok, maybe that's TWO words, but... :-)
Seeing JLG there really amazed me. BeOS was HIS baby and I'm curious to know what he thinks of this spry off-shoot.
I can't wait to see the video.
To everyone working on Haiku... YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB!!!
Axel was talking about the File cache! I wonder if he mentioned a certain annoying individual constantly bringing up a certain "issue"? :-D It's still there, guys! And I'm not gonna stop mentioning it till it's fixed. This ye know well, for I hath said it! :-)
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They are not allegations. They are simply the facts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e
Anyway, It's great to see him and ex-developers care about Haiku and I have to admit I'm looking up to Mr. Gassée for creating BEOS, but thats about it.
Haiku is on the right path but hopefully not the beos path.
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Haiku is on the right path but hopefully not the beos path.
Let's hope Haiku won't follow the Windows path either, even though Windows is the most successive OS when it comes to market share and revenue - which you seem to care about the most.
The most important thing is not to be biggest and earn the most - it's how you get there and the quality of your product that matters.
JLG (and his team) did a great thing for the computer world when creating BeOS. Now we'll soon have the best OS around back
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Haiku is on the right path but hopefully not the beos path.
Hmmm. The issue I have with Haiku is vision. It's easy to point out JLG's failures, but Steve and Bill both have their share of failures too.
I'm afraid Haiku will quickly fall in line with Linux: copying features with little or no real innovation. I think Haiku needs a strong leader with a focused vision to take the helm and lead them after 1.0 (and I'm not necessarily talking about JLG). In particular, someone who has the balls to follow their vision through and not be afraid of failure.
Copying BeOS 5 is one thing, but innovating and moving into uncharted territory is another.
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I'm not sure why Jean Louis Gassée should have a honorary seat on Haiku's board.
1) Gassée introduced several Macintosh products on-stage in the late 80s including the Macintosh Portable. Released in 1989, it was received with excitement from most critics but with very poor sales to consumers.
2) When the idea of licensing the Mac OS for other companies use was brought up by various members of Apple, Jean-Louis refused to give in to the idea, maintaining that the Macintosh was more powerful than any other computer at the present, and had a superior architecture roadmap for down the road than any other computer. Gassée would have none of it, and so the idea of licensing the Mac OS was shelved. [Paving the way for Windows OS dominance.]
3)In 1990 Jean-Louis left Apple, forced out by Sculley and Apple board members dissatisfied with his performance in delivering new products.
4) Be was not successful in getting top-tier OEMs to bundle BeOS with their hardware - only Hitachi and AST
At the end of 1999, Be had a "focus shift," giving their desktop OS away for free.
5) Be laid off most of its employees in 2001, with its assets and the remaining engineers being bought by Palm, Inc. for $11 million that August. Gassée stayed on through that transition, but left in January 2002.
6) Gassée became chairman of PalmSource, Inc., where several former Be executives and engineers still worked, but as of February 2006, there are no major customers—including Palm, Inc. itself—who have committed to using the Cobalt release.
I didn't mention he refused the $200 Mill deal which Apple offered him for BE instead he sold it for 11 Mill.
So, I'm not sure what is so cool about Mr.Gassée.
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I'm not sure why Jean Louis Gassée should have a honorary seat on Haiku's board.
I only wish to point out that product vision doesn't always correlate to business sense. There are many innovative and awesome ideas out there that never make it in the corporate world - simply because there's no real money in it.
Maybe in the end, "BeOS" and kin were only destined to survive as a non-profit open-source OS
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He truly is, just because you make some bad buissness decisions does NOT make you bad at technology. He has always been in the forefront of computing in everything he did, and thats a fact. Wonder what Steve Sakoman and Frank Bosman and the others think of haiku?
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Unless I remember wrong, JLG was invited more out of goodwill than anything -- his blessing would be a nice thing even if that's all it was. He doesn't have an honorary seat on Haiku's board (I know who the official board members are) unless something has happened that I don't know about (possible, but unlikely).
It should be interesting to see if anything comes from the publicity that Haiku has seen these last few days.
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If you have another source of Mr. Gassée success maybe you can point them out.
Andy Hertzfeld's site ( http://www.folklore.org/ ) mentions him a bit, for the most part he was very successful at Apple. That Wikipedia page gives at best parts of the story it ignores most of it.
The decisions at Be were in large part driven by events outside their control to which they had no option but to react. In my view Be went down because they were forced out of the market by Microsoft, an allegation MS didn't even attempt to fight in court - they settled out of court for $27 million.
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