Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 16th Sep 2007 20:41 UTC
Gifts, Contests, Easter Eggs As some of you may have noticed by now, OSNews has started using icons from the Tango Project to replace many of our old icons. You can spot the new icons conveniently on the topic page. In the Tango icon library we have found numerous icons we could use, but understandably, Tango was not made for OSNews: we cannot replace all the icons we want with Tango icons - yet. And this is where you come into play. So, read on for the rationale behind choosing the Tango icon set, and how you can help us - and win a subscription to our ad-free version!
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Topics
by mikesum32 on Sun 16th Sep 2007 21:56 UTC
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2005-10-22

Topic icons from left to right:

Gifts, Competitions, Easter Eggs
Databases
Bugs & Viruses
3D News, GL, DirectX
Law and Order
Multimedia, AV
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y
Benchmarks
In the News

Reply Score: 2

RE: Topics
by Michael on Sun 16th Sep 2007 23:03 UTC in reply to "Topics"
Michael Member since:
2005-07-01

I'm surprised that there are no Tango icons for databases, multimedia or news.

Reply Score: 4

Joe User
Member since:
2005-06-29

Would you organize a contest for the best device driver coding? No. So why asking for tens of people to create icons, spend their time and throw away 90% of them? You will say "If you don't want to participate, don't". Ok, but still. The open-source community is complaining that open-source application look like crap, yet you always consider graphic designers as idiots. If you want a good job in graphic design for the open-source, contract a professional designer, don't rely of poor/stupid freelancers. Don't be surprised if there are so few graphic designers interested in helping out or to give their free time. What about the "reward"? Isn't this ridiculous? When the reward is so small, it's better not to offer anything at all instead of insulting the guys. I mean, come on, are his hours or evenings of work worth only an OSN subscription? What about the others who "lost"? Screw them? I hope one day the open-source community will realize how they treat graphic designers and respect more their work. If I could draw these icons, I would definitely not help, for these reasons. Argh...This drives me so mad...!

Reply Score: 17

Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

>What about the others who "lost"? Screw them?

No, they simply lost. That's what a COMPETITION means.
However, it would be possible to use DIFFERENT icons from DIFFERENT artists, in which case, they should all get a subscription.

>contract a professional designer

OSNews is not News.com with millions in the bank.

Reply Score: 1

Joe User Member since:
2005-06-29

No, they simply lost. That's what a COMPETITION means.

This is why it's just plain wrong to do it. This is like considering graphic design as just a poor job that is only worth...A contest. Like on an assembly line: Produce in mass and throw away all that doesn't meet the quality requirements. The difference is that graphic design is done by human beings, during their free time, and their time is as valuable as yours, so is their work.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Are you being intentionally dense?

The difference is that graphic design is done by human beings, during their free time, and their time is as valuable as yours, so is their work.


Whats your point? OSS code is written by human beings in their free time. This contest is no different from other ones, including code contests. Some have expensive prices, some don't. That's why you can, you know, *choose* which ones to enter.
Don't want to "waste" your free time? DONT ENTER.
It's not rocket science.

Reply Score: 9

flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

I can see why you're doing it, to save money. I can understand that. At the end of the day it has to come out of someone's pocket and I don't see anyone here opening their wallet.

As an alternative if this 'competition' doesn't work out, you could find some to-buy icons/icon sets and then see if the community would be willing to donate to purchase them?

There's plenty of freebies on the Internet anyways: http://www.freeiconsweb.com/

Reply Score: 2

Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The entire Tango icon set has been made... For free. Without even ANY reward. So, what is your issue here? There are enough people out there who *enjoy* making icons (I am actually one of those, I am making my own iconset, but that one isn't suitable for OSNews), and are more than willing to do it for free.

In fact, I know enough graphic designers who would create those icons for OSNews for free, just out of being nice. However, I chose to make a nice contest out of it, giving everybody an equal chance - even people I do not know.

I do it to be nice, but if you don't appreciate that, fine. Just please don't come off as an ass doing so.

Reply Score: 1

Daniel Borgmann Member since:
2005-07-08

They did have programming related contests before, nobody is being discriminated... Hiring a professional to draw a handful of symbols is clearly overkill and the chances are actually very good that they'll receive a decent set of icons. Heck the only reason I don't try it myself for fun is, that I'm quite sure that someone else will submit a better effort. ;)

Reply Score: 2

jadeshade Member since:
2007-07-10

Hiring a professional to draw a handful of symbols is clearly overkill...


when you put it that way, it's hard not to feel bugged for the icon designers. Stuff like the tango project, everaldo's work, and I'm sure the oxygen project (when we see it) is much, MUCH more than a handful of symbols.

Reply Score: 1

AlexandreAM Member since:
2006-02-06

I believe he was talking about the OSNews Icons. I, too, believe it is kinda overkill to hire a professional to draw like 10 to 15 icons, just so the site will look a bit better ? Perhaps less than that...

It is like hiring a professional programmer to help you optimize some code in a script for an excel file...

Reply Score: 1

aent Member since:
2006-01-25

You realize thats how it works with code too, even if its not as formalized of a contest (or sometimes, it is)... for example, gnome had its gnome bounties projects where they had things they wanted done for certain applications, and the person to implement it the best got the money and the code went into that application. The rest of the code was thrown out. Also, for little (bragging rights, ability to put it on a resume?) to no reward, the recent scheduler issue in the linux kernel had competition between a few people creating different schedulers. The code that was not chosen for inclusion in the kernel was thrown out. Relax, its not just graphic designers. I did an unpaid internship a few summers ago, creating a 3D models of quite a few different things for a simulation program, and after I completed the internship, a large amount of what I did was thrown out and contracted out to be completed to be done overseas.

This happens everywhere. It should be an expected part of life in a world run without a dictatorship.

Reply Score: 3

Michael Member since:
2005-07-01

They're not treating graphic designres like crap, they're treating enthusiastic amateurs like (badly paid) graphic designers. You get what you pay for.

Still, it's only a handful of icons. Could look good on some student's CV. Was never gonna make anyone rich.

Reply Score: 5

StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

You will say "If you don't want to participate, don't".


That sounds like a pretty good point to me.

Reply Score: 3

tristan Member since:
2006-02-01

Would you organize a contest for the best device driver coding?


Sure, why not?

A while ago the Banshee project had a contest to write a plug-in to implement the "mini mode" sported by most other media players. The "prize" was something like a mention on the project leader's blog, and a beer if they ever happened to be in the same place.

Were they taking programmers for granted? Were they insulting programmers by offering such a small reward? Should they have contracted a professional programmer, rather than relying on "poor/stupid freelancers"? What about the people who lost? Screw them?

I hope one day the open-source community will realize how they treat graphic designers and respect more their work.


In my experience, people contributing icons and other graphics are respected (and thanked) just as much as other volunteers who give up their free time to programme, create packages, write documentation, administer websites, triage bugs, and so on.

Reply Score: 6

SteveNordquist Member since:
2007-05-04

Because treatment -as- crap, where license is taken and resold to appear in a hideously composed ad later, and the attribution for the hideous part falsely given to the icon author, does not work on her Smartphone?

She waived the entry fee! What do you want? Jet service to the Venice Biennialle 32x32 (and under)? Should we donate 7000 lira to the cause of good vegetarian ricotta? The cover of Oprah Magazine for 3 months?

Ah...no wait, I get it; she is trying to only occupy the time of -bad- designers, otherwise out there making boxy solar designs that look like a 2004 Cadillac is parked in the attic, hiding from Deceptacons.

Reply Score: 1

abdavidson Member since:
2005-07-06

I agree with you 100%.

It infuriated me with my current employer when I started. I had to redesign a web app that we sold to make it nicer and more functional. All well and good but I'm no graphic designer and when I asked for some money to buy decent icons or to get one of our associated graphic designers to do some I was told to go find some freebies online.

Why oh why is graphic design relegated so often to this dirty tail ender option...?

Reply Score: 2

Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"contract a professional designer, don't rely of poor/stupid freelancers."

Nice job tarnishing the freelancers. Btw, what in the hell has this got to do with OSS?

"What about the others who "lost"? Screw them?"

They still own their work so they can do whatever they want with it. If you cant handle losing, dont join a competition.

Hopefully your attitude isn't typical for a graphic designer otherwise, well, maybe the problem isn't on the OSS side.

Reply Score: 5

netpython Member since:
2005-07-06

I disagree. Especially for starting graphics designers this contest could be an add or a start for a portfolio.

Just as it is hard for beginning game developers to get a job at the game developer companies without experience.

OpenSource can be a great step stone. In addition i imagine a slashdot icon like icon of B.Gates with borg spectacles for anything MS related :-)

Edited 2007-09-17 05:56

Reply Score: 2

oxygen license
by Verunks on Sun 16th Sep 2007 22:08 UTC
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2007-04-02

oxygen icons are dual licensed as lgpl and creative commons share-alike http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4 so you could use them too

Reply Score: 4

RE: oxygen license
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 16th Sep 2007 22:15 UTC in reply to "oxygen license"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

oxygen icons are dual licensed as lgpl and creative commons share-alike http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4 so you could use them too


Mmm, they are very unclear about it. The previews are licensed under the noderiv-nc license until KDE4.0 comes out... But the icons themselves are ccsa? It's getting confusing.

Well, it's Tango anyway. They fit better with OSNews too.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: oxygen license
by aseigo on Mon 17th Sep 2007 07:41 UTC in reply to "RE: oxygen license"
aseigo Member since:
2005-07-06

> they are very unclear about it.

from the webpage:

"Oxygen icon theme is dual licensed. You may copy it under the Creative Common Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License or the GNU Library General Public License."

not sure what's unclear about that.

Reply Score: 4

RE[3]: oxygen license
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 10:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: oxygen license"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

not sure what's unclear about that.


The unclarity stems from this:

Image previews of Oxygen are released under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5 License. This because we want to keep Oxygen fresh for KDE 4, that will be released sometime in the middle of 2006.


Seeing KDE4 isn't out yet, I figured the icons were not to be used yet. On top of that, we cannot really afford to be uncertain about these matters. The Tango guys have their set out, with one, clear, license, and that made the difference on the license part of the story.

In addition comes the aesthetics side of it; even though I personally really love the Oxygen set, it just doesn't fit OSNews as well as the Tango icons do.

Edited 2007-09-17 10:59 UTC

Reply Score: 1

GIF format?
by dreamlax on Sun 16th Sep 2007 23:52 UTC
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Member since:
2007-01-04

OK, long gone are the times where we only had 256 colour palettes. I can't even remember the time when my display could only handle a maximum of 256 colours, so why stick around with an old, heavily deprecated (in my opinion) format? For those kinds of icons I would heavily prefer SVG, or at the very least PNG.

Edited 2007-09-16 23:54

Reply Score: 4

RE: GIF format?
by Doc Pain on Mon 17th Sep 2007 00:02 UTC in reply to "GIF format?"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

Well, the PNG icons could be photos of real objects, such as a present box, a database (a filing cabinet?), a squished bug, a tree dimensional object (with proper angle at taking the photo), a judge, a guy with headphones, two guys discussing, a stop watch and and a cell phone... oh, and why have static icons? Let's embed video clips instead of icons! "Flash" videos! Stupid idea, I know and I'll stop kidding for now. :-)

About the format: Yes, PNG would surely be a better choice than GIF.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: GIF format?
by Eugenia on Mon 17th Sep 2007 00:52 UTC in reply to "RE: GIF format?"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

OSNews asks for GIFs because I can easily optimize them for smaller filesizes than PNGs, because that's important for our cellphone support. The artists are free to export in SVG/PNG for other uses.

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: GIF format?
by dreamlax on Mon 17th Sep 2007 01:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: GIF format?"
dreamlax Member since:
2007-01-04

OSNews asks for GIFs because I can easily optimize them for smaller filesizes than PNGs, because that's important for our cellphone support. The artists are free to export in SVG/PNG for other uses.


I'd say that's not entirely true; have a look at the link below. It helps clarify why PNGs tend to be larger:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Network_Graphics#File_size_an...

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: GIF format?
by indech on Mon 17th Sep 2007 02:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: GIF format?"
indech Member since:
2005-12-06

For the older, coarser, more jagged icons that may have been the case, but not anymore. Filesize of .pngs in comparison to .gifs of icons downloaded from the front page and converted in gimp:

09 - 75.8%
19 - 84.6%
28 - 63.9%
31 - 77.6%
32 - 103.3%
37 - 101.0%
45 - 66.0%
47 - 75.5%
71 - 110.5%*
78 - 90.6%

*significantly coarse, unlike most of the new icons (edit: it's the bsd icon)

Edited 2007-09-17 02:26

Reply Score: 3

Who cares about ads?
by rcsteiner on Mon 17th Sep 2007 01:31 UTC
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2005-07-12

I'm much more concerned that OSNews won't let me use the full site with a Nokia 770 even though I have two Mozilla-based browsers available, and both of them perfeclly capable of rendering and using the site properly.

By making that choice for me, and by providing me no way to override that choice (outside of using a hex editor to change mt browserID) even though I as an expert user know far more about my chosen platform and browser than you do, you place yourself in the same position as Microsoft, presuming to know more than your users and shoehorning them into functional boxes based on YOUR limited understaanding of their chosen alternative.

This is a formal request fir OSNews to please provide a link on the limited mobile verson so expert usrs cn use the more advanced site at their own risk. The version of the site I use should be MY choice, not yours.

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv5tejl; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061130 Minimo/0.016

Reply Score: 3

RE: Who cares about ads?
by Kroc on Mon 17th Sep 2007 07:34 UTC in reply to "Who cares about ads?"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Ditto for the Wii. It's got a full Opera browser, even flash - it can handle the real site. The mobile version is just useless; the Opera Wii isn't a 'mobile' browser.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Who cares about ads?
by intangible on Mon 17th Sep 2007 16:41 UTC in reply to "Who cares about ads?"
intangible Member since:
2005-07-06

I agree whole-heartedly.

But you say Mozilla based? Try about:config and search for general.useragent You should be able to override your useragent, yeah, it sucks to have to resort to that.

Reply Score: 1

RE: Who cares about ads?
by David on Mon 17th Sep 2007 23:11 UTC in reply to "Who cares about ads?"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

I think what we'll do is make an alternate URL that will disregard the user agent and override our mobile design for those who want the full version regardless of their device. Thanks for the idea.

Reply Score: 1

What's with this?
by rcsteiner on Mon 17th Sep 2007 01:35 UTC
rcsteiner
Member since:
2005-07-12

Heck, even the Maemo version of Opera mostly works. :-)

Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; ; Linux armv5tejl; U) Opera 8.02 [en_US] Maemo browser 0.4.34 N770/SU-18

Reply Score: 2

On a web tablet, I find the main issue...
by rcsteiner on Mon 17th Sep 2007 01:42 UTC
rcsteiner
Member since:
2005-07-12

...to be actually TYPING a message via the stylus keypad. The browsers are quite capable - but the 'browsee' requires some retraining. ;-)

Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux armv5tejl; en-US; rv:1.9a6pre) Gecko/20070810 Firefox/3.0a1 Maemo browser 0.4.34 N770/SU-18

Reply Score: 2

I like GIFs myself.
by rcsteiner on Mon 17th Sep 2007 02:05 UTC
rcsteiner
Member since:
2005-07-12

I can't see then in ths browser (console on a 770! w00t!), but even my older DOS graphics programs like Neopaint can handle GIF images fairly well. They typically don't do PNG.

Browser: Links (1.00pre17; Linux 2.6.16.27-omap1 armv5tejl; 64x13)

Reply Score: 2

Design your own
by tyrione on Mon 17th Sep 2007 03:19 UTC
tyrione
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2005-11-21

It's your site. Be responsible for it's UI. I'm sure you guys can come up with something compelling.

Reply Score: 2

Looking good, but...
by greenie on Mon 17th Sep 2007 05:07 UTC
greenie
Member since:
2007-04-28

The new icons are looking great, but I beg of you to consider using your old trustworthy logo instead of the one being used now on the OSNews 4 page.

I think, that the old logo would somehow tie up the page better. The new logo seems somehow to.. it's just too flat for the flat enough page without clear visual separators between the articles.

Also fonts - posts/entries seem a bit crammed on the new page.

But besides that - everything is looking good. Specially content-wise.

Reply Score: 2

RE
by Kroc on Mon 17th Sep 2007 07:57 UTC
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2005-11-10

This is just asking others to follow the same guidelines, and come up with near the same thing. You could even end up picking and choosing the best of each icon between the submissions, because the colours are all going to match.

Rather uninspiring to say the least. You should also allow submissions of a full icon set done how the artist sees fit.

Reply Score: 2

RE
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 11:02 UTC in reply to "RE"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Rather uninspiring to say the least. You should also allow submissions of a full icon set done how the artist sees fit.


I chose to have all the icons from the same icon set to create a more consistent feel across OSNews. We were using all sorts of different icons, a mish-mash of styles, and I hated it. We needed icons with a consistent feel - consistent colours, lighting, and overall style.

So, logically, the icons we want must follow the same Tango guidelines as closely as possible.

Reply Score: 1

RE
by Kroc on Mon 17th Sep 2007 11:09 UTC in reply to "RE"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I meant a /full/ icon set. i.e. let the artist, if they choose, implement every topic icon so that they don't have to follow Tango guidelines, but still maintain a consistent style across all icons according to their chosen design.

Reply Score: 2

RE
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 11:36 UTC in reply to "RE"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I meant a /full/ icon set. i.e. let the artist, if they choose, implement every topic icon so that they don't have to follow Tango guidelines, but still maintain a consistent style across all icons according to their chosen design.


Erm, most of our icons, as explained, cannot be redesigned. They are logos from companies and projects, and they will not change (unless the company itself changes logos).

The Tango set fit in perfectly, so why duplicate efforts? As a graphics artist, you'll need to learn to work according to guidelines anyway.

Reply Score: 1

RE
by Kroc on Mon 17th Sep 2007 12:08 UTC in reply to "RE"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

As a paid graphics artist, I work within guidelines; as an unpaid graphics artist, I show what I'm capable of ;) I already had an idea for dealing with the company logos anyway.

Reply Score: 3

Ad Free OSNews?
by Jon Dough on Mon 17th Sep 2007 13:30 UTC
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2005-11-30

"...win a subscription to our ad-free version!"

I must be missing something here. I am not a paid subscriber, yet I don't see any ads when I view OSNews. If I had not read the above, I wouldn't have known there was an ad-free version of OSNews available.

I did view the sample ad-free page, and it didn't look substantially different from what I already see on the non-ad-free pages.

I realize this comment doesn't address other benefits of being a paid subscriber; it only concerns advertising or the lack thereof on OSNews.

Edit: spelling

Edited 2007-09-17 13:32

Reply Score: 3

RE: Ad Free OSNews?
by DeadFishMan on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:11 UTC in reply to "Ad Free OSNews?"
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Aren't you using AdBlock+, pal? ;)

Reply Score: 2

v RE: Ad Free OSNews?
by Joe User on Mon 17th Sep 2007 18:55 UTC in reply to "Ad Free OSNews?"
RE[2]: Ad Free OSNews?
by bthylafh on Mon 17th Sep 2007 21:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Ad Free OSNews?"
bthylafh Member since:
2006-09-21

Do you ever stop whining? It's unattractive.

Reply Score: 1

Why not use svg?
by Punktyras on Mon 17th Sep 2007 13:41 UTC
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2006-01-07

It would be nice to use some more modern format, say svg. svg takes less space and resizes very well - it doesn't get "pixelised"

Reply Score: 2

RE: Why not use svg?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 14:02 UTC in reply to "Why not use svg?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It would be nice to use some more modern format, say svg. svg takes less space and resizes very well - it doesn't get "pixelised"


We don't resize our icons, so that benefit is useless. On top of that, svg support is not universal, while gif support is.

People always forgot we need to render everywhere.

Edited 2007-09-17 14:02 UTC

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Why not use svg?
by Punktyras on Mon 17th Sep 2007 14:18 UTC in reply to "RE: Why not use svg?"
Punktyras Member since:
2006-01-07

You don't resize icons, but users do - they enlarge page to read text. At least I do ;) . Which browsers do not support svg? I'm not talking about IE, but web browsers.

Reply Score: 2

RE[3]: Why not use svg?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 14:45 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not use svg?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Internet Explorer definitely is a major concern. Out in the real world, IE is still the number one browser, and we need to support it fully.

But what about Net+? Voyager? PocketIE? Opera Mini? Netfront? OpenWave? And on top of that, even Firefox's, Safari's, Konqueror's, and so on, SVG support is NOT complete, while they DO support GIF *all the way*.

The choice for GIF is one that is absolutely non-negotiable. We're not a small weblog that needs to render in just Gecko, WebCore and IE - we render on everything, with everything, everywhere. PNG is even 100% out of the question, let alone SVG.

Reply Score: 1

v RE[3]: Why not use svg?
by Joe User on Mon 17th Sep 2007 14:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not use svg?"
RE[4]: Why not use svg?
by DeadFishMan on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:17 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Why not use svg?"
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Are you stupid? IE is the most widely used web browser. If you don't render properly in IE, go get another job.

The fact that it is the most used web browser doesn't imply that it is the most capable one. SVG might be a relatively new standard, but IE completely fails to render properly nearly 10 years old such as CSS2. It is sad that webdesigners* have to work their way around this stupid thing in order to make decent looking websites...

* When I say webdesigners, I mean the good ones and not the guys that use FrontPage to make their stuff, by the way.

Reply Score: 3

Query
by Vorbisophile on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:13 UTC
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2006-01-06

I've decided to have a bit of a go, but being a bit simple today (I think staring at Transport Tycoon's pixels for so long on Sunday has done something to the brain) - aren't entirely sure if I've followed Tango's guidelines strictly enough. So if anyone fancies telling me so, here's a quickie of the bug icon that I've knocked up:- http://alistair_b.eml.cc/random/testbug.png

Edited 2007-09-17 15:13

Reply Score: 1

RE: Query
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:21 UTC in reply to "Query"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

That's actually not bad ;) . The yellow glare is a bit pointless though, and you might want to make its body a bit less 'puffy'.

Still, not bad.

Reply Score: 1

Nice
by theuserbl on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:30 UTC
theuserbl
Member since:
2006-01-10

Nice.
If there existing a ReactOS logo as Tango-theme, then it could also be integrated in ReactOS, because ReactOS used Tango, too.

Same with Syllable.

But please ask for the SVG-format. Tango itself used SVG. And Tango is converted to different pixel-graphics formats.

Convertig scalable graphics to pixel graphics is easy. But the other way around not.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Nice
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 17th Sep 2007 15:35 UTC in reply to "Nice"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

But please ask for the SVG-format.


Everybody can make the icons in whatever file format they want - as long as the icon they send to us is a 32x32 GIF image.

Reply Score: 1

sci-fi icon
by broken_symlink on Mon 17th Sep 2007 23:27 UTC
broken_symlink
Member since:
2005-07-06

why didn't you guys decide to replace the sci-fi icon too?

Reply Score: 1

Vonskippy
Member since:
2005-07-10

Icon's - gotta say I couldn't care less.

After learning to read, I pretty much just "READ THE HEADLINE" to determine if I want to go any further, and really couldn't care less what little graphic doodad is in front of it.

Reply Score: 0

Another chance to design icons
by RavinRay on Tue 25th Sep 2007 13:47 UTC
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2005-11-26

When I was a beta tester for NewDeal Office 98 (a PC/Geos suite), there was an internal icon design contest and my icon for Preferences made it. Looks like a chance for me to go at it again!

Reply Score: 1