Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Tue 23rd Sep 2008 21:42 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
X11, Window Managers It's been a hell of a time getting X.Org 7.4 out the door, but this afternoon Adam Jackson has released this long-delayed update to this X system. X.Org 7.4 is arriving after the release of X Server 1.5.1 earlier in the day. Yes, it's finally here! In this article we have information on the features that make up this release along with what it's taken to get X.Org 7.4 primed for release.
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announcement?
by Dima on Wed 24th Sep 2008 02:05 UTC
Dima
Member since:
2006-04-06

This is the second time I hear that Xorg 7.4 is released. But their wiki still doesn't mention that: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/

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RE: announcement?
by dwave on Wed 24th Sep 2008 15:45 UTC in reply to "announcement?"
dwave Member since:
2006-09-19

The front page isn't updated yet. Instead, click on RecentChanges to see all new entries chronologically:
http://www.x.org/wiki/RecentChanges

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Built & Running!
by ideasman42 on Wed 24th Sep 2008 16:39 UTC
ideasman42
Member since:
2007-07-20

downloaded the sources from GIT and built using the build.sh script today.

Was a bit disappointed with how hard it is to build, there were 8 or so packages that didnt install headers in the correct place (had to manually copy). libXp didn't build from the script, and a dependency drm2proto wasn't downloaded or in the build script.

Would be nice if they had their build system better updated.
- Aside from that. it seems to run well and definitely starts faster.

NVIDIA - Pull your finger out and release X11 7.4 compatible drivers!

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RE: Built & Running!
by ple_mono on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:41 UTC in reply to "Built & Running!"
ple_mono Member since:
2005-07-26

NVIDIA - Pull your finger out and release X11 7.4 compatible drivers!

Now this may be a little OT, but i'm starting to think i should make my next GPU an intel. Another thing i read was a statement from a nvidia official that they are NOT planning to include support for their upcoming "hybrid power" solutions in their linux drivers. Nor do they include "purevideo" support.
Yes, i'm a bit dissapointed in nvidia lately. Maybe i should get a life? (if so, do one have to install windows for that?)

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RE[2]: Built & Running!
by StaubSaugerNZ on Thu 25th Sep 2008 00:19 UTC in reply to "RE: Built & Running!"
StaubSaugerNZ Member since:
2007-07-13

Rather than get an Intel why not get an ATI (especially if you want decent 3D). I have a Radeon HD 4870 and it works very well under Ubuntu. ATI's driver support was terrible in the past, but in the last few months they've stepped it up a few notches. Kudos to them.

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RE[3]: Built & Running!
by sakeniwefu on Thu 25th Sep 2008 06:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Built & Running!"
sakeniwefu Member since:
2008-02-26

In my case it was because I bought a laptop and no ATI option was available for my model. Intel Integrated Graphics are the only cards guaranteed to work 100% on all operating systems(not just those NVIDIA bothers to support) with quality(this rules ATI out) open source drivers. They also run with little power and don't build up heat at all. Unless you are a hardcore gamer, you don't need anything better - simple games will work. And if you are, you aren't running non-Windows OSes in the first place.

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RE[2]: Built & Running!
by ideasman42 on Thu 25th Sep 2008 06:59 UTC in reply to "RE: Built & Running!"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

Id be pretty happy with intel graphics except that were finishing the apricot open game (yofrankie.org) which uses fairly advanced shaders. I feel like a bit of a dick with a 1gig nvidia, running vesa single screen. lucky were up to documentation :/.

gives me a good excuse to test blender3d with Mesa7.2

Ati and intel also have quite bad support for OpenGL features not commonly used in games. (like 2D bitmap drawing or drawing the selection buffer). really hoping Intel pickup their act on this since having a gfx card with open drivers work that properly with OpenGL would be an advantage.

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http://www.x.org/
by aaronb on Wed 24th Sep 2008 19:50 UTC
aaronb
Member since:
2005-07-06

Should at least be updated to reflect the new release.

The presentation seems shoddy when the website is not updated to with "Version 7.4 is now out".

Since X11 went from Xfree86 to Xorg there has been a lot of progress, but now it seems stale IMHO.

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RE: http://www.x.org/
by aaronb on Wed 24th Sep 2008 19:54 UTC in reply to "http://www.x.org/"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

In contrast gnome 2.24 is out today and http://www.gnome.org/ is already updated.

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RE: http://www.x.org/
by WereCatf on Wed 24th Sep 2008 22:29 UTC in reply to "http://www.x.org/"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

The presentation seems shoddy when the website is not updated to with "Version 7.4 is now out".

In their defense, how much difference does it make? Normal users will receive Xorg 7.4 sooner or later and they probably won't care much about the version numbers. They'll just notice improved startup speed. And system admins who work for any company most likely don't even have X installed and if they have, they'll install the updates only once they've gone through distro-specific testing. So, it's only the tinkerers who really care, and they'll know about the new version anyway even if it's not mentioned at x.org ;)

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RE[2]: http://www.x.org/
by aaronb on Thu 25th Sep 2008 06:00 UTC in reply to "RE: http://www.x.org/"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

I agree in part, but that could be said about most components from KDE to GNOME, from libxml to gcc.

I think X org is a great project, but it just seems to be lacking something.

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