Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Oct 2009 21:14 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu The Ubuntu team has pushed out the beta release for Ubuntu 9.10. "Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition improves on the work of 9.04 to get you going faster, with improved startup times and a streamlined boot experience. Ubuntu 9.10 Server Edition integrates Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud setup in the installer and provides improvements to system security with AppArmor, including an AppArmor profile for libvirtd to further isolate virtual machines from the host system. The Ubuntu 9.10 family of variants, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, and Mythbuntu, also reach beta status today."
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Say what?
by fretinator on Thu 1st Oct 2009 21:51 UTC
fretinator
Member since:
2005-07-06

I almost fell out of my chair thinking that Ubuntu 9.10 was released on the 1st of October! Then I saw that the headline was, "Ubuntu 9.10 Beta Released".

I've been running 9.10 Alpha on a laptop for about a month now. It is very functional, except I get kernel crash notification messages all the time (a little "splat" notification). They don't appear to be hurting anything, and I imagine their frequency will diminish over time.

The Ubuntu One (dropbox equivalent) seems to work OK, but I haven't tested it on another box (receiving the dropped files), since I only have the one 9.10 box.

The theme is still fairly brownish.

Good day!

Edited 2009-10-01 21:57 UTC

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Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Thu 1st Oct 2009 22:26 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

As usual, downloading now. I’m interested to see what’s different here as I haven’t heard as much about this release as I have others. The 'paper cut' work really is the most important thing to me. Error messages that list cryptic command strings (that you can’t copy), that it could just as well execute for you, is not what I want to see.

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Friendly interface
by sakeniwefu on Fri 2nd Oct 2009 00:26 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
sakeniwefu Member since:
2008-02-26

Klippy has observed you are trying to run opensshd on your Kubuntu machine! Do you want him to help you?
[Yes] [No]

To use opensshd you must first install it. Do you want me to do that for you?
[Yes] [No]

Great! But I will need to have your password(Don't worry it is okay to give it to me)
[OK] [Cancel]

Type your password:
[*********** ]

Installing opensshd:
[oooooo..........]50%

opensshd is installed now! Do you want to read the friendly manual?
[Yes] [No]

Reply Score: 5

RE: Friendly interface
by helf on Mon 5th Oct 2009 00:32 UTC in reply to "Friendly interface"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

why is the site telling me "This comment can no longer be moderated"? I was trying to give it a +1 funny.

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benhonghu
Member since:
2008-08-24

It was pretty bad in 9.04, and I was forced to fall back to 8.04 after a series of attempts to tweak the system failed miserably. Anyone knows if the intel graphics in 9.10 can stand strong against 8.10...

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miserj Member since:
2006-05-15

I had tested the alpha build and the intel graphics were MUCH better this time around. Seemed really snappy and fluid.

Course now I'm back on my 9.04 machine (ugh slow graphics again)

Edited 2009-10-01 23:44 UTC

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ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

Is that just an Intel Graphics thing, because 9.04 is pretty unusable in both my PC's (home and work). The work PC has an integrated ATI graphics chip. The home PC has an NVidea AGP graphics card.

I get all sorts of erros in 9.04:

* WINE applications have painting bugs that did not exist in 8.04 (example, buttons borders are half painted).

* Starting a Windows application with WINE brings my Quad Core processor to a halt for about 30 seconds. God know what happens in that 30 seconds to kill 4 CPU cores. When I run them from the command line, I get all sorts of error output, but eventually the app loads (but much slower that 7.10 or 8.04 did).

* Custom written GUI Toolkits like fpGUI or MSEgui have painting bugs. Both those GUI toolkits talk directly to XLib (not via GTK, QT etc.).

I'm really not happy with 9.04, so I sure hope 9.10 has al this fixed. 9.04 was by far the worst Ubuntu release ever.

Oh, and PLEASE bring back the "flurry" screensaver! It's the nicest one of the lot. :-)

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DOSguy Member since:
2009-07-27

I don't have any experience with 8.10, but I do have with 9.4.
I've been playing with 9.10 for the last four hours and I can tell you it is a definite improvement on my equipment! ( Dell Latitude E5400 )
From the first boot everything worked like a charm and auto-configured like it should. ( except for the wireless drivers that had to be installed separately ) It responds snappy and I haven't noticed any bad performance, bugs or quircks at all...

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wifi disconnections
by another_sam on Fri 2nd Oct 2009 12:42 UTC
another_sam
Member since:
2009-08-19

I hope they fix regular disconnections of Intel 3945ABG against Linksys WRT160N. Bug is
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348204

While this is not fixed, there is no Ubuntu for me. Maybe I'll give fedora 12 a try.

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RE: wifi disconnections
by vivainio on Fri 2nd Oct 2009 19:10 UTC in reply to "wifi disconnections"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

You may want to try ndiswrapper. I don't know what the deal is about wlan, but it seems very hard to get reliable drivers. It's almost as bad as acpi used to be...

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RE: wifi disconnections
by kaiwai on Sat 3rd Oct 2009 03:23 UTC in reply to "wifi disconnections"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I hope they fix regular disconnections of Intel 3945ABG against Linksys WRT160N. Bug is
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348204

While this is not fixed, there is no Ubuntu for me. Maybe I'll give fedora 12 a try.


I've found Linksys routers to be very problematic - even when using a 4965; I've since replaced the router and the problem hasn't reappeared. It only occurred, funny enough, when using WPA authentication but it doesn't appear when using WEP or no password at all.

All I can suggest is to check whether the same issue occurs on non-Linksys routers because if it does, it sounds like a compatibility issue specific to handling a noisy environment.

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RE[2]: wifi disconnections
by sbenitezb on Sat 3rd Oct 2009 21:42 UTC in reply to "RE: wifi disconnections"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

Replacing the router OS with DD-WRT might solve a lot of problems.

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Ath5k wlan works out of the box!
by vivainio on Sat 3rd Oct 2009 07:50 UTC
vivainio
Member since:
2008-12-26

Just installed this (unr) on my eee900.

Tadah! Wlan works flawlessly out of the box. They claimed it would work already with Intrepid, but they lied.

It also seems synaptic driver is used properly.

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Wow!
by spackie on Sat 3rd Oct 2009 12:41 UTC
spackie
Member since:
2007-08-15

Start up time is FAST

Fonts look GREAT.

GUI still has a 1990's look n feel to it ;-(

Needs a bit of work on 'getting new backgrounds, themes' to equal KDE 3.3's

Panels are still frustrating to manipulate.

Shutdown is FAST

Allround big improvement 6/10

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Still no sound
by DrillSgt on Sun 4th Oct 2009 15:27 UTC
DrillSgt
Member since:
2005-12-02

The Creative X-Fi support is in the kernel, yet Ubuntu still does not play sound, even though the module appears to be loaded. Reporting it as a bug, but annoying nonetheless. Hopefully they can get it corrected.

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