Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th Apr 2010 17:11 UTC, submitted by Idefix
Opera Software Opera has released version 10.52 for the Mac. "The new Opera is designed with Mac in mind. This version boasts an improved user interface, Cocoa integration, multi-touch trackpad gestures and Growl support. This, combined with the unprecedented speed from the new JavaScript engine, Carakan, and the new graphic library, Vega, provides a faster and smoother browsing experience. The new Opera also features the latest in Web standards, including leading SVG support and HTML 5 video." Only Linux remains, now.
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Comment by killasmurf86
by killasmurf86 on Tue 27th Apr 2010 19:30 UTC
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2010-04-27

Not only Linux, but FreeBSD as well ;)

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RE: Comment by killasmurf86
by ebasconp on Tue 27th Apr 2010 21:25 UTC in reply to "Comment by killasmurf86"
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2006-05-09

AFAIK, all BSDs have a Linux emulation layer on them.
I once ran Opera for Linux in my NetBSD through its emulatioin layer.... so, when the Linux will be ready for Linux, it will be ready for all the BSDs too.

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RE[2]: Comment by killasmurf86
by Lazarus on Tue 27th Apr 2010 21:32 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by killasmurf86"
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2005-08-10

FreeBSD has for a while now had a native port of Opera. NetBSD/OpenBSD/DragonFly haven't.

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RE[2]: Comment by killasmurf86
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 28th Apr 2010 00:05 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by killasmurf86"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

BSD users shouldn't have to use a Linux compatibility/emulation layer to run any programs. And I'm not even a BSD user. All programs should be... you know... native to the operating system running them. Same reason I'm sure many Linux users dread having to break out (or even install) Wine to run Windows programs.

Luckily Opera does have a FreeBSD version, and Linux/BSD are similar (UNIX-like, X.Org, etc.), so I doubt they'll make any drastic changes like they are with the Linux vs. Windows vs. Mac versions, hopefully leading to a release of both at the same time. I don't think they support NetBSD or OpenBSD though, and I don't know if those actually have Linux compatibility or not... but it shouldn't matter. Native support is always better.

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No Linux version
by ChrisA on Wed 28th Apr 2010 00:20 UTC
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2006-05-06

So I guess Opera software has lost the desire to provide a web browser for the Linux community. Thats fine, we have other options but I find it very disheartening that they are treating Linux like a second class citizen and dont care about the community. How long has 10.5 been out for Windows? What about the Mac? Yet no word on Linux? Thats OK, their choice but they are going to lose mindshare. I like using products I can use on multiple platforms, Linux, Windows and Mac. I cant get an up to date browser on one, I will just go ahead and use Firefox and Chrome and uninstall Opera from my PC's. I was such a fan of Opera too.

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RE: No Linux version
by ebasconp on Wed 28th Apr 2010 02:37 UTC in reply to "No Linux version"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

If you enter to the Opera website from a computer running Linux, you will see: "Download Opera version 10.10 for Linux (Opera 10.50 available shortly)". That's a very similar text found when you accessed to the Opera website from a Mac until yesterday.

I do not think Opera will stop to release its browser for Linux; Opera's people just invested all their resources (or a big part) to Windows and Mac platforms given their marketshare. I also think the marketshare for Opera in Linux is higher than in the other platforms (though I am just speculating here) and Linux is the platform where they can implement the core things for Linux based smartphones.

Edited 2010-04-28 02:39 UTC

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RE: No Linux version
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 28th Apr 2010 07:15 UTC in reply to "No Linux version"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

ALL 10.5 releases are big, probably much bigger than an Opera release has been in... who knows how long. And not only that, 10.5 marks the time when each version will be distinct from one another, taking its entire GUI layout/theme from the OS it is running on. I'm sure you noticed the (abysmal) Windows theme (luckily you can turn that big, ugly button off and switch back to the classic menu style...).

The Mac version also feels more built-into the OS judging from everything I've read, though I can't verify since I don't run Mac and honestly don't really care. And the Linux version? Well, that one is getting a facelift of its own--it's being redesigned to look like a native GTK+ program, making it look like a proper GTK app and cutting some of the extra weight for those who don't run KDE. There were some screenshots posted somewhere around the time of the 10.5 Windows Alpha release, of the in-development Linux version.

So really... just wait and see. I can certainly see why Opera is taking longer than usual to support Mac/Linux/etc.--this kind of stuff (separation) takes time. Normally, every version gets released simultaneously, but I'd say they have good enough reasons to delay 10.5 across platforms. If the other OSes still seem neglected with versions proceeding 10.52... *then* you can start getting worried.

As a company, would it *really* be a good idea to delay *all* versions until they are all complete? Seriously. Think about how much time between the original Windows release and the eventual Linux release. IMO, they're doing fine.

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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Wed 28th Apr 2010 06:09 UTC
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2005-07-06

Meh its ok but too bad Opera is still using QuickDraw rather than adopting Core Animation which would take advantage of the OpenGL pipeline. One step forward, three steps backwards. Time that Opera got its act together and producing a decent browser with plugin isolation, tab isolation and not dependent API's that have died long ago on the Mac platform.

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Browser Ballot to Linux
by bitwelder on Wed 28th Apr 2010 06:55 UTC
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2010-04-27

Maybe Linux distros should decide to support only one browser and somebody else should come up with a Browser Ballot suggestion... ;-)

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RE: Browser Ballot to Linux
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 28th Apr 2010 10:12 UTC in reply to "Browser Ballot to Linux"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

That already exists. It's called Synaptic. Oh, wait... ;)

Edited 2010-04-28 10:13 UTC

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Opera 9.52 for Linux release date
by aargh on Wed 28th Apr 2010 08:12 UTC
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2009-10-12

Everyone in this discussion expecting a Linux release should just look here.

http://www.opera.com/browser/next/" http://www.opera.com/browse...

If you really can't wait, you can use the developer builds.

Opera for Windows had to be released before the ballot screen, that's why it's so buggy and other platforms were delayed.

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Ugh
by rmcsimon on Wed 28th Apr 2010 18:03 UTC
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2010-04-02

Ugh! Is this really their idea of "designed with Mac in mind"? Opera for Mac is horrible. They claim it has "Cocoa integration", but yet it doesn't behave anything like a regular Cocoa app.

Text fields behave oddly and don't have focus rings. Contextual menus pop-up on mouseUp instead of mouseDown, so you can't select items by dragging. Form elements look like something from Windows 95. Scrollbars don't dim in the background. Even Firefox does basic stuff like that.

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10.53 RC1 available the next day
by bousozoku on Fri 30th Apr 2010 03:29 UTC
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2006-01-23

They don't waste time providing fixes sometimes. The release candidate for 10.53 is already available for Mac OS X.

10.10 doesn't report that there is a new version, so I think I'll wait for the extra fixed version to upgrade.

They did do more UI work but I'm not sure how it makes it more Mac-like. It's always nice to have an alternative browser.

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