We've got some good news for Symbian, and we've got some bad news. We already had Sony Ericsson abandoning the Symbian platform, but today Samsung joined them in leaving Symbian behind. The good news is that Nokia has released some figures on downloads from its Ovi Store, and it ain't that bad, actually.
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2006-07-04
Symbian^3 doesn't look too shabby in my opinion. As a Finn myself I've got some automagic love for Nokia, although I've been wanting a WebOS phone for quite some time.
The N8 seems pretty fine, I'm loving the HDMI support. Their newly announced E7 looks pretty damn nice too. I'd rather see a phone running MeeGo though!
I wish the competition in Finland was nice enough that other companies would want to enter. Neither Blackberry/RIM nor Palm/HP phones are available here (unless brought in from abroad.) 
Member since:2008-12-26
Then you may like this:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/14/nokia-hires-peter-skillman-forme...
Member since:2005-11-14
That's good news, hopefully.
I'd like Nokia to come out with a few kick-ass Meego phones before I need a new one. My SE X10 Mini is pretty decent as it is, and there are plenty of cool things to Android, but I'd prefer not being so tied to Google. It does one thing better than Apple, in not having a cruddy POS software like iTunes in the middle of everything, but Google's services are pretty much central to everything, still. And the presumed openness of the platform is, well, limited to how easily someone can hack the phone's bootloader. So far, they have had no success. The software might be open, but the hardware is closed.
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RE[2]: Story is simply wrong
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If you combine it with this:
http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/11/11/samsung-dropping-symbian-for-...
It makes perfect sense.
But that's not the point. The point is your tone. Your German item is interesting. However, you'll need to learn to SHOW RESPECT, and submit it without acting like a dick. I know you hate me because I have the balls to call out Apple's flaws, and that's fine, but that's no reason to attack me at every possible opportunity.
Like I said, I put an inordinate amount of work into OSNews, and I run this website pretty much on my own. I need to cover so many subjects in such incredible depth, that mistakes - and this item is not a mistake, since your update was posted LATER - are simply BOUND TO OCCUR. Most people on OSNews are incredibly kind and understanding of this, and send me an email or leave a kind comment if I make a mistake, to make OSNews better. To improve my understanding of matters.
Yet with people like you, that's not why you do this. You only point this out because you want to attack me. That's all you care about. It's all over your comments. The aggressiveness is dripping out of every letter.
I'm sick of that. I work incredibly hard on OSNews EVERY DAY, and I WILL NOT let people like you piss all over that. Consider yourself warned.
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I called Star Trek overrated crap - not you. I called people who watch it nerds - I watch it myself. I've never seen a non-nerd watch Star Trek. It's a nerd thing. And that's okay. Nerd is not a negative term at all. It's just a designation. That's all. Like how pom-poms are a cheerleader thing.
And don't act coy. It's not as if your aggressiveness started after the Star Trek thing.
No, they did not. That link contains a direct quote from Samsung itself, stating they will drop Symbian. How can that be wrong?
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Read my comment. I never wrote that. You called Star Trek watchers nerds who like overrated crap.
And that was just a recent example of your tone.
If you want respect from people, treat them respectful yourself. If you don't want to be respectful to them, fine. But don't bitch if someone uses the same tone as you towards you.
Get off your double standard and we can talk.
No, they did not. That link contains a direct quote from Samsung itself, stating they will drop Symbian. How can that be wrong? "
Not your link. Their story from yesterday.
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2008-07-15
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't remember Samsung having many Symbian phones. I'm glad they're not actually abandoning it, but the only Samsung smart phone that I know of that used Symbian is several years old and ran Series 60 V2. Granted that I'm in the states and we don't exactly get the best selection of Symbian hardware sold here (let alone that work on our nonstandard HSDPA frequencies for 3G), but are there Samsung Symbian smart phones still, or are we talking mostly about feature phones?
Member since:2008-10-31
Samsung single-handedly beat Nokia with the i8910HD. The N8 is still behind it when considering the CPU... A real shame about S^1 on that one, and that Samsung doesn't support it much, only a little more than the Innov8 before.
Anyhow, I think the original interpretation is right. Samsung won't make Symbian phones just for fun. At the bada Developer Day in Hungary, the Korean representatives said that there would be focusing on Android (40% of efforts) and bada (40%), with a little WP7 (10%) and LiMo (10%).
This has changed of course, they cut the Vodafone 360 program, so LiMo is out. But that was months after the Dev. Days.
And there was that other event, IFA, where they said they are "not seeing visible demand for Symbian."
Member since:2005-07-07
While the i8910 had the OMAP 3430 and state-of-the-art AMOLED at that time. It had a very poor firmware that crippled it from living up to any of its potential.
The i8910 had no voice dialing, poor audio recording, stuttered HD video recording and worst of all most of the S60 apps won't work on it because Sammy refused to provide APIs to make it happen.
If it weren't for HX, I'd completely trash that overpriced piece of junk. In comparison, SE does a far better job than Sammy when it comes to making their phones work as they should. But neither of them could ever match Nokia. Despite the PoS that is the N97, Nokia worked very hard to make it usable, can the same be said of SE or Sammy?
Let's also not forget that SE and Sammy have a poor track record of fixing their firmwares on any platform, regardless if it is Symbian, Android, WinMo or their own proprietary OS.
Member since:2008-10-31
And who is to blame there? Nokia-specific, in-house APIs are missing from the phone, like the VOIP Audio Server (making Nimbuzz and co. inoperable).
Sure, Samsung pulled an N97 with the phone ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJpEuMidcSU ), haven't and won't fix it up (not even like Nokia did the N97, though that was building a sandcastle from dogshit). But it's Nokia's fault that the S60 "platform" is crippled for licensees.
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Oh puh-lease, if SE could license it for their phones, so can Sammy. Which is why there is full Skype for SE Symbian phones, but not the overrated Samsung ones.
I think you should stop drinking the Sammy kool-aid and call them for what they are. They suck at providing actual functionality and after sales support.
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After taking ownership of my brothers N900 due to its lack of support for Telstra's NextG network, I have to say that the path Nokia has made with Maemo/Meego is a bright one for their future.
After researching their developments and the Meego's community developments and after having hands on with the N900 - they have a great little system there.
Sure Symbian is their main OS for Smart Phones and sure it's getting long in the tech tooth but with integration between Meego and Symbian 3 through the KDE toolkit and further development of Meego - the future looks good for Nokia Smart Phones.
I also like the communities efforts in porting Meego to Android devices. Nice.