Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 18:44 UTC, submitted by fran
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Two reports about mobile operating systems, both refuted by the companies the reports were about. First, there were persistent rumours Samsung wanted to buy or license webOS from HP - the company has now stated it has absolutely no interest in doing so. Another report surfaced today, stating Intel was temporarily backing off MeeGo - Intel, too, has refuted this report, stating it remains committed to MeeGo. Coincidentally, both reports originated from DigiTimes.
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WebOS
by churlish_Helmut on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 20:17 UTC
churlish_Helmut
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2010-04-12

Sadly, no one seems to be interested in adopting WebOS. In my opinion, WebOS should be an open source mobile OS, because it has some wonderful characteristics.

When distributed like android, it would become the Mobile OS King. The potential is assured.


Besides: Bada is really awesome. I like the Bada SDK, although i am the only one with this opinion ^^ But i think Bada will have its market share, in the low- and middle Smartphones sector.

Reply Score: 6

RE: WebOS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 20:49 UTC in reply to "WebOS "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Not sure why Web OS didn't do better. It was launched prior to Android's success, and there was some buzz around it as well. But at this point, I think you'd really have to do something amazing to displace IOS or android. So Amazing,that I can't even imagine what it would be like.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: WebOS
by JAlexoid on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 08:39 UTC in reply to "RE: WebOS "
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

WebOS wasn't backed by a good device.

Reply Score: 2

RE[3]: WebOS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 14:04 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: WebOS "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I don't know the main complaint of the first palm pre was the keyboard. Why didn't they just improve that. Its not rocket science. The only thing I can think of is that Palm was underfunded and lacked the resources to introduce better versions. Compare the improvement of the palm pre plus to that of the Droid 2 versus their predecessors. Motorola improved the device significantly, palm did not.

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RE[4]: WebOS
by JAlexoid on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 23:34 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: WebOS "
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Arguably, Droid was the original good device behind Android. Sure... HTC Hero was earlier, but it was too expensive.

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RE[5]: WebOS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sun 4th Sep 2011 13:19 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: WebOS "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

True. But even then they didn't stop with good. Even the iphone would be dead if they hadn't improved it significantly since the original release.

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RE[4]: WebOS
by Meanwhile on Sun 4th Sep 2011 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: WebOS "
Meanwhile Member since:
2005-09-03

FYI: The Palm Pre 2 got an improved keyboard plus a much more solid build quality overall.

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RE[5]: WebOS
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Sun 4th Sep 2011 23:37 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: WebOS "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yeah... and that's pretty much it. Compare to the Original Moto Droid with the Droid 2. Palm/hp never kept up with dramatic improvement in smartphones.

Reply Score: 2

RE: WebOS
by OSGuy on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 22:16 UTC in reply to "WebOS "
OSGuy Member since:
2006-01-01

No you are not the only one. I personally believe Bada's SDK is superior when compared to Android.

Edited 2011-09-02 22:16 UTC

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RE[2]: WebOS
by Not2Sure on Sun 4th Sep 2011 00:28 UTC in reply to "RE: WebOS "
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2009-12-07

2.0 of the Bada SDK finally allows for multitasking?

Reply Score: 1

Headline
by fretinator on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 20:45 UTC
fretinator
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2005-07-06

Still waiting for the headline, "WebOS Wobbles, Falls Down"

Reply Score: 3

south korea mobile os
by fran on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 21:42 UTC
fran
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2010-08-06

This left me a bit confused

http://www.phonearena.com/news/South-Korea-to-develop-its-own...-sm...

If Bada opens up it could become this OS. But this all depend on Samsung. If they don't and LG is excluded from it this OS might really happen.
It would be interesting if they build this on an existing open source platform like Meego or something.
It probably will run on Linux.
The whole project though seems a totally unnecessary kneejerk reaction to Google buying Motorola.
If they do and this thing is developed from scratch it will be terribly unnecessary duplication.

Reply Score: 3

Bada
by chithanh on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 21:44 UTC
chithanh
Member since:
2006-06-18

Hehe, your article almost sounds like the WP7 astroturfers: "My colleague / family member / mailman / etc. uses WP7 and says it's the best thing since sliced bread!"

Seriously though, WebOS is not really suited for the Bada target group of low-cost smartphones.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Bada
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 21:48 UTC in reply to "Bada"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Hehe, your article almost sounds like the WP7 astroturfers: "My colleague / family member / mailman / etc. uses WP7 and says it's the best thing since sliced bread!"


WP7 *is* really good. I use it every day.

Reply Score: 1

RE[2]: Bada
by churlish_Helmut on Fri 2nd Sep 2011 21:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Bada"
churlish_Helmut Member since:
2010-04-12

Yeah... i have an iPhone, but i think about swichting to wp7, because the handling its perfectly for mobile Phones .

Reply Score: 1

You can have too many OSes ...
by MacTO on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 03:04 UTC
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2006-09-21

If you're talking about a low end phone that will be tossed into the trash with the same applications that it shipped with, then it doesn't really matter if every vendor has its own OS. (Ditto for smartphones targetted at enthusiasts.)

But a consumer oriented smartphones, well, that's something altogether different. Developers don't want to port to every bloody platform and consumers don't want to find out that their friend's fantastic app won't work on their phone (or, for that matter, the app that they depended upon on their old phone won't run on their new phone).

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glarepate Member since:
2006-01-04

Disclaimer: I'm a consumer, but not a normal consumer.

I have an LG Rumor Touch. It's a feature phone rather than a smart phone but lots of J2ME apps run on it. Even more don't, partly because the carrier has the network access parts locked down so hard.

I could spend $100 and get software to unlock it so it would have more capabilities, but I kind of like playing with it to see what it will and won't do. So it's more than just a phone to me, it's a geeky toy/puzzle as well.

Maybe that market niche is too small for anyone to try to go for. (o;)

Reply Score: 2

Pick up WebOS already...
by mfaudzinr on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 03:47 UTC
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2008-02-13

Is WebOS really gonna be dead? How unfortunate. I like diversity, it drives innovation but unfortunately it seem to drive litigations at this current juncture.

Reply Score: 2

WTF?
by przemo_li on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 04:16 UTC
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2010-06-01

MeeGo dieing?
Where, when, how?

Asus is lunching MeeGo netbook this year (at last real Linux Distro, that will not be rejected cause of "corporate-only" approach). There are tablets in pape for it, and MeeGo will be/is used for Intels IVI.


Toooo many ppl think, that MeeGo can only be put on smartphone. MeeGo is MORE

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RE: WTF?
by Nth_Man on Sun 4th Sep 2011 18:42 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

For example, WeTab
http://wetab.mobi/en

Edited 2011-09-04 18:48 UTC

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RE: WTF?
by fatjoe on Mon 5th Sep 2011 08:25 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
fatjoe Member since:
2010-01-12

You forgot Nokia N9. I ditched my trusty Android for one of those, the N9 is just amazing! If a store near you is selling N9, please do yourself a favor and go try it!

And both ASUS and Acer (and LG?) have Meego notebooks in the pipeline, probably in out hands before October.

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DigiTimes
by OSGuy on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 04:39 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-01

So I guess from now on everything DigiTimes says I will take it with lots of salt.

As far as WebOS is concerned, I believe Samsung has made the correct decision for not buying WebOS as they have their own Bada which is an excellent smartphone platform to develop for with an excellent API and SDK.

Edited 2011-09-03 04:41 UTC

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Claims of WebOS' death are premature
by RichterKuato on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 06:05 UTC
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2010-05-14

When HP announced they were dropping WebOS devices they also said they were transitioning into a software focused company and that WebOS was going to be a big part of their future. They've publicly expressed interest in licensing it for months now. Whether they'll be able to effectively license it will determine it's future.

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Nokia...
by leech on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 13:48 UTC
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Member since:
2006-01-10

Every post about anything related to MeeGo needs at least one person to grumble about the idiocy of Nokia.

Count me in for that.

As a side note, my experience with mobile operating systems thus far have been the Motorola Cliq, which had Android 1.6 on it, was a pain to root, didn't like Android.

Then I bought my Nokia N900. Love it! Maemo is freaking awesome, and rather than running a crap JavaVM over a Linux kernel, it actually uses Xorg and it works like a tiny Linux machine. Rooting it was as easy as running apt-get.

I was looking forward to a MeeGo phone, but Elop doesn't even want the N9 to succeed, last I've read (I stopped reading up on it a while ago, it was too depressing) they were going to make it extremely difficult to even obtain one in the USA.

I just bought a Flytouch 3 10.2" 1Ghz tablet (those cheap Chinese Android knock-offs) and it has Android 2.2 on it.

My N900 runs Android 2.3.4 better than it does! And it's a 600mhz processor! Not to mention it's not exactly native and is being ported.

Reply Score: 4

RE: Nokia...
by JAlexoid on Sat 3rd Sep 2011 23:42 UTC in reply to "Nokia..."
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Don't compare N900 experience with Flytouch or any other Chinese cheap tab manufacturers. Hardware quoted is mostly not what it's really capable of...

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RE: Nokia...
by Not2Sure on Sun 4th Sep 2011 00:27 UTC in reply to "Nokia..."
Not2Sure Member since:
2009-12-07

Amazon.de is listing the N9 at 619 EUR. Absurd but I guess if you really, really want one...

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RE: Nokia...
by Nth_Man on Sun 4th Sep 2011 18:47 UTC in reply to "Nokia..."
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

Elop going as a case study to the MBA books
http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/08/coining-term-e...

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RE: Nokia...
by fatjoe on Mon 5th Sep 2011 08:33 UTC in reply to "Nokia..."
fatjoe Member since:
2010-01-12

I understand your pain, but please dont give up on N9!!

This phone is amazing! (and from what I have seen so far, Nokia is moving the more innovative parts to the symbian platform)

Reply Score: 2

Story is an Overreaction
by k4ever on Sun 4th Sep 2011 12:15 UTC
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Member since:
2007-03-20

Thom, first HP never plan on selling webOS. From day one they talked about licensing it out. Some overzealous tech bloggers create the story that HP would sell webOS, not HP. HP wants to become a software service company and webOS is a big part of that. Yesterday HP moved moved the software portion of the webOS division out of the PSG. So webOS is not leaving the company when the PSG is spun off. Second, Samsung's CEO said that he would never "buy" webOS. Again that is is line with what HP wanted. Samsung's CEO never mention not licensing webOS. Please provide us with the part of his statement that said Samsung would not license it. I read his statement and checked some other tech sites. Just about everyone except you and Phonedog are covering that Samsung would not buy webOS. No one else is saying that Samsung would not license it. Not even Samsung..

Reply Score: 3