Linked by snydeq on Tue 10th Jan 2012 19:12 UTC
Java Two years hence, Oracle's stewardship of Java continues to raise user and vendor ire, this time due to modularization, licensing, and security concerns. 'Plans for version 8 of Java Platform Standard Edition, which is due next year, call for inclusion of Project Jigsaw to add modular capabilities to Java. But some organizations are concerned with how Oracle's plans might conflict with the OSGi module system already geared to Java. In the licensing arena, Canonical, the maker of Ubuntu Linux, says Oracle is no longer letting Linux distributors redistribute Oracle's own commercial Java, causing difficulties for the company. Meanwhile, security vendor F-Secure views Java as security hindrance.'
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sukru
Member since:
2006-11-19

Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of Oracle's management of Java, however this news article reads more "propaganda" than journalism.

Introduction of vendor projects conflicting with established open source ones happen all the time... even in Java (NetBeans/Eclipse, Glassfish/JBoss, etc).

Yet, I understand it's still news (not sensational, but still important). Nevertheless, the editor feels the need to include Canonical not being able to re-distribute Java -- which was already discussed here. And F-Spot's comment, neither having any relation whatsoever to modularization in Java.

Please mark opinion and news articles properly.

Reply Score: 3

Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

sukru,

"Yet, I understand it's still news (not sensational, but still important). Nevertheless, the editor feels the need to include Canonical not being able to re-distribute Java -- which was already discussed here"

Are you complaining that an author from infoworld is talking about something already discussed on osnews? I for one don't mind the inclusion of the licensing facts in the article, but what are you proposing osnews do about it?


"Please mark opinion and news articles properly."

That seems to be more trouble than it's worth, it would cause debate over something not worth debating. Just take all articles for what they are, the view of the author.

Reply Score: 3

ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of Oracle's management of Java, however this news article reads more "propaganda" than journalism.

Introduction of vendor projects conflicting with established open source ones happen all the time... even in Java (NetBeans/Eclipse, Glassfish/JBoss, etc).

Yet, I understand it's still news (not sensational, but still important). Nevertheless, the editor feels the need to include Canonical not being able to re-distribute Java -- which was already discussed here. And F-Spot's comment, neither having any relation whatsoever to modularization in Java.

Please mark opinion and news articles properly.

It's a quote from the original article.

Reply Score: 3

JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Fortunately smart people know that InfoWorld has long become one big opinion piece...

Reply Score: 2

ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Fortunately.

But it would be nice to see the source without having to hover the link (gosh, am I really this lazy?), making it easier and faster to ignore the right stuff (and spot the great stuff).

Reply Score: 3

Bah
by mdoverkil on Tue 10th Jan 2012 23:12 UTC
mdoverkil
Member since:
2005-09-30

Oracle seems hell bent on destroying any good will that Sun managed to acquire from the FOSS community over the years.

Reply Score: 6

RE: Bah
by JAlexoid on Wed 11th Jan 2012 12:37 UTC in reply to "Bah"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

They worked long and hard to keep their developer relations down in the gutter.

Reply Score: 3

Jigsaw
by KermitTheFragger on Wed 11th Jan 2012 00:06 UTC
KermitTheFragger
Member since:
2008-06-12

Jigsaw was started under Sun and caused friction from day 1. What does that have todo with Oracle? It came from the Sun "Not invented here" syndrom.

Also the fact that the open OpenJDK is being pushed instead of the closed Oracle VM is something to be happy about?

Reply Score: 2

FUD
by Beta on Wed 11th Jan 2012 14:45 UTC
Beta
Member since:
2005-07-06

Nothing more, nothing to see here, ignore.

For more information: The JCP under Oracle is no longer deadlocked like it was under Sun, features that were delayed are becoming included and Oracle is standardising on OpenJDK as the mainlineā€¦ so Linux distros do not require a bloody argreement to distribute.

As for it being an attack vector: it has hundreds of millions of installs, just like Flash, Windows, etc. It is par for the course. Keep up to date and you shall be better than most.

Reply Score: 4