Linked by David Adams on Wed 15th Jul 2015 17:46 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews A Hong Kong-based startup run by former Mozilla President Li Gong aims to take on Android with its new Web-based operating system, H5OS. Similar to the Firefox operating system from Mozilla, H50S is based on HTML5, a website development language that tries to give Web apps the same capabilities as so-called native applications that are downloaded to a device like the iPhone. More on H5OS here.
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needed even if most fail
by project_2501 on Wed 15th Jul 2015 18:49 UTC
project_2501
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2006-03-20

The mobile ecosystem is too important to leave to non-open monopolies.

Android is more open that iOS but we can do better.

So I'm pleased we keep seeing plucky attempts at alternatives. They need to be encouraged. Even if most will fail.

Imagine a Safari and IE only web .... shudder! We need open alternatives to keep the ecosystem behaving well.

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RE: needed even if most fail
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 16th Jul 2015 03:30 UTC in reply to "needed even if most fail"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

No this is terrible. Its not firefox os, its a fork of firefox os. He also explicitly talked about "Owning the Operating system". That does not sound good. If you are writing to open standards, then apps written for your platform will work any where those open standards are implemented and you have no lock-in.

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RE: needed even if most fail
by shmerl on Thu 16th Jul 2015 17:00 UTC in reply to "needed even if most fail"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

I hope Sailfish will be opened as promised. It's way better than webby options.

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Not going to fly.
by moondevil on Wed 15th Jul 2015 19:06 UTC
moondevil
Member since:
2005-07-08

but feel free to keep trying.

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No way
by darknexus on Wed 15th Jul 2015 19:28 UTC
darknexus
Member since:
2008-07-15

If Microsoft is having trouble breaking with a well-performing os, these guys and their web-based crap have zero chance.

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RE: No way
by unclefester on Thu 16th Jul 2015 02:55 UTC in reply to "No way"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

If it is backed by the Chinese government it has a very strong chance of success. eg It can be made mandatory for school tablets or government issued phones.

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RE[2]: No way
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 16th Jul 2015 12:36 UTC in reply to "RE: No way"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Just like red flag linux or kylin, right?

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RE[3]: No way
by unclefester on Fri 17th Jul 2015 00:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: No way"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

Just like red flag linux or kylin, right?


They were just slightly modified Linux distros designed for desktop use.

It is relatively easy to mandate a phone for government use.

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RE[3]: No way
by nicubunu on Fri 17th Jul 2015 05:49 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: No way"
nicubunu Member since:
2014-01-08

Today is a different world: American backdoors and mass surveillance are a matter of public knowledge, as is the fact that American intelligence listen to world leaders phones. If you were a Chinese political or military leader, how soon would you want a non-American phone? Yesterday would be not soon enough.

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RE[4]: No way
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Mon 20th Jul 2015 18:00 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: No way"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

So Firefox is non-american, but android is not? Not sure how you determine weather a system is American or not.

I'd recommend doing everything from scratch. Non Western compatible phone network, non western cell towers, non western chip design.

I mean if you go full paranoid and you have the means, you go full F-ing paranoid. None of this half ass BS like using firefox OS.

But of course, I'm American... so you logically can't take my advise.

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HTML5 + WebAssembly
by acobar on Wed 15th Jul 2015 21:12 UTC
acobar
Member since:
2005-11-15

I wonder if HTML5 + WebAssembly can fix the sluggishness associated to modern web content, apps included, or, at least, push it down a bit. I mean, really, with the amount of crap I have seen, just improvements on processor power and data transmission rate are not going to save us.

Edited 2015-07-15 21:15 UTC

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RE: HTML5 + WebAssembly
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 16th Jul 2015 12:39 UTC in reply to "HTML5 + WebAssembly"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

I really, really blame jquery and its ilk. Web Devs use so many crappy layers of toolkits on toolkits to do the simplest of things.

I really doubt that most are going to suddenly embrace a technology that is more difficult. I suspect that idiots will write toolkits to make coding webassembler easier, which will rob all of the performance out.

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RE[2]: HTML5 + WebAssembly
by acobar on Thu 16th Jul 2015 14:41 UTC in reply to "RE: HTML5 + WebAssembly"
acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

Well, I hope you miss on this but I strongly suspect you will not. o.O

I wish they use the opportunity to bring also a little bit of more standardization to the chaos presented to us by so many levels of abstractions / meta-factories / indirections / virtualizations on the code side.

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Baby, it is a black american :)
by gotocaca on Thu 16th Jul 2015 10:36 UTC
gotocaca
Member since:
2014-02-22

I'm Jim philips ;)

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RE: Baby, it is a black american :)
by acobar on Thu 16th Jul 2015 15:10 UTC in reply to "Baby, it is a black american :)"
acobar Member since:
2005-11-15

May you please enlighten what this is supposed to mean ?

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