Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Aug 2017 19:19 UTC
Google

Since we launched Chrome OS in 2009, our goal has been to build the simplest, fastest, and most secure operating system possible. And we've been inspired by all the ways we've seen businesses embrace Chrome, from Chromebooks in the office, to shared Chrome devices in the field, to signage and kiosks for customer engagement in retail. But with so many different business needs - not to mention so many different devices - companies have also told us they want a single, cost-effective solution that gives them the flexibility and control to keep their employees connected. That's why today we're announcing Chrome Enterprise.

Chrome Enterprise offers a host of features, including access to enterprise app storefronts,  deep security controls, 24/7 support, as well as integration with cloud and on-premise management tools, VMware Workspace ONE and Microsoft Active Directory.

Chrome OS keeps marching on.

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Browsers are the new OS
by project_2501 on Tue 22nd Aug 2017 20:22 UTC
project_2501
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2006-03-20

and it's the run-time of the internet.

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What's the point of chrome os
by MacMan on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 02:38 UTC
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2006-11-19

Other than a traditional dumb terminal role like a kiosk, data entry, POS terminal or something, why would you use chrome.

It's a dumb terminal with a web browser. Some of us actually need things like compilers, and run real applications. Some of us also like to play games.

90% of my time is spent between eclipse, emacs, papers. My home machine plays a lot of call of duty, A dumb terminal is not going to cut it.

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RE: What's the point of chrome os
by REM2000 on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 07:27 UTC in reply to "What's the point of chrome os"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

i would be wary of someone selling you ChromeOS as the fix for all your problems.

Do you have heavy lifting apps like CAD, do you have various compliers and development work, do you game or do heavy media creation then ChromeOS is not for you.

Are you a knowledge worker who works with documents, spreadsheets, collaborates with others. Do you work in departments like HR were a lot of information is now stored in cloud service then ChromeOS could be for you.

For a while i can see companies if they wish to adopt this, going for a 70/30 adoption rate and slowly getting higher.

I have implemented G-Suite and ChromeOS and it works incredibly well, im a massive fan. However it was rolled out to users with standard requirements, the artists and designers using photoshop they stayed on Windows and continued using photoshop.

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Factor in VDI with the heavy applications running on servers in a datacenter, and the ratio could go a lot higher.

Depending on the development work, SSH could be all that is needed.

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RE: What's the point of chrome os
by Lobotomik on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 08:11 UTC in reply to "What's the point of chrome os"
Lobotomik Member since:
2006-01-03

It is not a "dumb" terminal, it is a "smart" terminal, which makes an enormous difference.

Also, I believe Chrome now runs many Android applications, so the laptop-gaming side of things seems kind of covered. There are many very nice Android games (though many more very horrendous ones, to be honest) and, being designed for phones and tablets, they are bound to run better on low-power hardware than Windows games.

As for a development environment, there are flaming hoops you can jump through to get one working. Maybe not Eclipse, and certainly not Visual Studio, though that might be fortunate ;-)

Yeah, maybe it is not for you, but it looks like it matches a growing proportion of users.

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RE: What's the point of chrome os
by emphyrio on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 11:02 UTC in reply to "What's the point of chrome os"
emphyrio Member since:
2007-09-11

Other than a traditional dumb terminal role like a kiosk, data entry, POS terminal or something, why would you use chrome.

It's a dumb terminal with a web browser. Some of us actually need things like compilers, and run real applications. Some of us also like to play games.

90% of my time is spent between eclipse, emacs, papers. My home machine plays a lot of call of duty, A dumb terminal is not going to cut it.


Clearly, chromeos is not for you. I imagine, however, that if you are going to do tech support for a few thousands of users whose only use for a computer is email and office, chromeos or similarly managed systems are going to sound mighty attractive (as the OS on those users' devices). In that case, even the no-games aspect becomes an advantage.

Edited 2017-08-23 11:06 UTC

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Some of us have servers for the heavy work and don't care about video games.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

90% of my time is spent between eclipse, emacs,

Dear God! Someone teach the poor bastard to VIM! ;)

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MacMan Member since:
2006-11-19


Dear God! Someone teach the poor bastard to VIM! ;)


LOL, VIM, ha ha, I may be old, but I'm not that old .

My grey beard advisor in grad school used VIM and FORTRAN 77, he really partied like it was 1979

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RE: What's the point of chrome os
by Lennie on Fri 25th Aug 2017 14:41 UTC in reply to "What's the point of chrome os"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

You have a compiler here. :-)

https://bellard.org/jslinux/buildroot-x86.cfg" rel="nofollow">https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html?url=https://bellard.org/jslinux/...

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RE: What's the point of chrome os
by bnolsen on Sat 26th Aug 2017 14:58 UTC in reply to "What's the point of chrome os"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

This OS isn't for YOU as much as it is for all those people who keep on asking you to fix their broken virus/trojan ridden machine. That typically includes most management and sales people. And it is VERY effective at addressing this market. Your demographic is less than 10% of the market, probably much less than that even.

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How much data does Google slurp?
by shotsman on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 08:29 UTC
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2005-07-22

When you run a device with ChromeOS?

If there is more than 0 bytes sent to the Chocolate Factory then sorry, I'm out.

I could rant on about security but I'd expect most people who read this forum get that already.

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Exactly the question that pops into my mind every time I hear about how Chromebooks are great for business. Precisely how much of your confidential information is being silently harvested?

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Do you have any idea how many businesses are already running Google Docs?

I mean, if you already have Docs, what more info could the OS level data possibly provide?

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Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

Not more then they slurp up from Android users?

That's the thing about ChromeOS. It's so tied to Google it's useless without it, but on the flipside, Google is one of the few out there with the services to provide such a thing.

I'd love for a slim Linux or BSD that could integrate with my own servers, but there are still a lot of crucial things missing on the server side.

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Enterprise Market
by robertojdohnert on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 13:16 UTC
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2005-07-12

Working in the enterprise space myself I have seen more and more Chrome OS in that space. But there are some lessons Google needs to learn before it can be seen as a competitive contender. First of all, they are pushing the Android app compatibility and Android app compatibility is half baked at best with spinkles of mediocrity. Android apps have some issues with Chrome devices and things like GPS, Biometrics, USB storage and SD card storage dont always work as expected for Chrome OS. Second, commitment. To work in the Enterprise market you have to be committed to that product for 5 years at least, 10 years for Federal and military. When it comes to the Enterprise market Google is always shooting itself in the foot repeatedly. Third, viability, this thing just seems to be Chrome OS with some already available extensions prebundled. Is there enough call in the Enterprise for this kind of offering?

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RE: Enterprise Market
by Flatland_Spider on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 15:57 UTC in reply to "Enterprise Market"
Flatland_Spider Member since:
2006-09-01

There most certainly is a call for this. That list will get IT Managers excited.

Being able to manage Windows through GPOs and AD with everything coming from one vendor is one of the bigger selling points for MS.

Android apps are going to be a weird fit since ChromeOS was never meant to be anything other then a JS playground.

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RE[2]: Enterprise Market
by The123king on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 16:10 UTC in reply to "RE: Enterprise Market"
The123king Member since:
2009-05-28

I bet Google do a better job than Microsoft did trying to integrate metro/modern/microsoft design apps into Windows 8 and 10

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ChromeOS: winner?
by Flatland_Spider on Wed 23rd Aug 2017 16:09 UTC
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2006-09-01

Is ChromeOS the winner of the Google OS wars? Google wouldn't announce business offerings if it was going to kill ChromeOS, would it?

Fuschia uses Dart for its applications, and if Fuschia is the future, then there needs to be a bridge in the present. ChromeOS applications are basically JS, so Fuschia is next gen ChromeOS.

Kotlin runs on the JVM, but it can also be compiled to JS. Google is promoting Kotlin as the preferred language for Android. ChromeOS uses JS for it's applications, as does Fuschia.

Huh.

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