Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Aug 2005 16:53 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "Colony CD 3, the third milestone release of the Breezy Badger development branch, is now available. Our last milestone release was over a month ago, and there has been a lot of interest in testing Breezy, so we are pleased to provide this snapshot to the community for testing. It is available for download here." Screenshot gallery is here.
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Red-orange Firefox Icon
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 17:44 UTC
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Looks like they fixed the Firefox icon. Seriously, the blue was ugly. I'm glad it's back to standard orange-red.

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v Ubuntu
by Bending Unit on Thu 18th Aug 2005 17:46 UTC
RE: Ubuntu
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 17:56 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu"
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The brown (and those multi-cultural-happy-people-photos) somewhat reflect their principles and so on. But you're right -- it's BROWN!

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RE: Ubuntu
by Jody on Thu 18th Aug 2005 18:31 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu"
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It is brown but you have options
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=414&slide=3...

You have 3 brown backrounds to choose from. With that said though I use Ubuntu and it is my opinion that it is a large step forward.

The backround I am currently using is:
http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/gnome/1166

Not that it is hard to change the backround, but they should consider including a default backround that is a little less blan.

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RE: Ubuntu
by kadymae on Thu 18th Aug 2005 22:29 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu"
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Yes, it's brown.

So is chocolate.

(Which makes sense because Ubuntu is the Godiva of Linux distros.)

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RE[2]: Ubuntu
by MadDwarf on Fri 19th Aug 2005 14:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Ubuntu"
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"(Which makes sense because Ubuntu is the Godiva of Linux distros.)"

As opposed to the Mandriva of distros?

(I just hate that name!)

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RE[3]: Ubuntu
by kadymae on Fri 19th Aug 2005 17:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Ubuntu"
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"As opposed to the Mandriva of distros?"

Mandriva is not velvety brown, does not support PPC, and seems to be (based on the fact that many of the apps have K names) KDE.

Mandriva's nice but it's not my little brown hippy linux. ;)

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install is not much improved
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 17:47 UTC
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Well I tried it and I'm not so happy about the progress (especially during installation) compared to Hoary. First time it seems like it sets up DHCP just fine, then the other time it start searching for like 10 minutes for security fixes and all (in hoary this was like 30 minutes)...
Also my network card doesnt work by default while in other distro's it works just fine. In hoary I have to go to the 'network' tab, disable dhcp and then it works just fine. But in Breezy I don't have that Network tab... Nautilus didn't load either. Guess I have to wait for a later build and do some bug reporting ;)

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RE: install is not much improved
by pailhead on Thu 18th Aug 2005 18:09 UTC in reply to "install is not much improved"
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Gotta report bugs and whatnot, that's why they release the developmental copies to the world. If ya don't report it they may not know about it.

I'm running Hoary as my main Linux system but plan on loading up Colony 3. I'm really jazzed about Ubuntu and love running it.

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Yeah, true it sure got released for testing. It's just a shame for me to see this 'release' does worse then the Hoary release because it is harder to set up. Anyway, I think Breezy will rock, especially with the new add/remove programs and other improvements like the new Evince with Cairo which makes rendering very fast.

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RE: install is not much improved
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 19:04 UTC in reply to "install is not much improved"
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Also my network card doesnt work by default while in other distro's it works just fine.

This, unfortunately, seems to happen in a lot of distro's I try. I don't get to really pick the distro based on if it has everything I want in a distro, I pick one that can detect all my hardware correctly. Would be nice if the Open Source community could come up with a common hardware detection scheme to use; that way users could try out differents distro's without it being a crapshoot on whether their hardware will work the same as in their current distro.

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bugs
by zombie process on Thu 18th Aug 2005 18:14 UTC
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The (k)ubuntu team has been very responsive to bugs that I and others I know have submitted. MUCH better than many other distro maintainers who either leave bugs open until the package they reference is obsolete, or shuffle them around until the next release. OTOH, this is a *beta* -- breakage should be expected.

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RE: bugs
by Anonymous on Fri 26th Aug 2005 13:00 UTC in reply to "bugs"
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That's because they don't release an *entire* distro upgrade. They concentrate primarily on KDE, and so have plenty of time to fix bugs. I don't see any 6 month kubuntu goals anywhere...

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package manager looks better
by butters on Thu 18th Aug 2005 18:21 UTC
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The graphical package manager looks like it's been worked on. It now asks you to add the universe repository if you want to install a package from it. Better than having to find the menu item to add repositories.

It is pretty easy (even for a completely new user) to change to a theme that isn't brown. However, it's almost universally accepted that everyone likes blue/gray/silver (cold colored) themes, so change might be in order... perhaps the ubuntu community should conduct a poll to see what people really think of the brown theme.

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RE: package manager looks better
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 18:30 UTC in reply to "package manager looks better"
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I don't know, I rather like warm colors:

http://24.15.37.191/~bytecoder/screenshots/8-11-05.png

I wouldn't mind seeing some other color schemes in ubuntu, like more oranges, but I don't think colder colors would fit very well.

-bytecoder

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Is there any way I could convince you to write a short tutorial on how to get ones desktop to look like that? ;)

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Well, it didn't really take that long.

I got the window and icon themes, ApeDosMil and Gartoon, from gnome-look.org (you can find installation instructions at art.gnome.org). I have a stash of wallpapers (http://24.15.37.191/~bytecoder/screenshots/wallpapers.png) that I've built up, but I got most of them, and probably this one, from deviantart.com. The desklet is for rhythmbox and is available for gdesklets.

Next, I put the trash back in the corner by enabling trash_icon_visible in /apps/nautilus/desktop from gconf-editor.

Finally, I made my home directory the desktop as per this article:
http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/abstract/
I have to say, after doing this, I'm much more organised. Before, I had a home folder with around 40 directories and files at any given time, but now it's much easier navigating my crap and it actually feels natural.

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I HAD to chime in and tell you how beautiful your desktop looks!

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RE: package manager looks better
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 19:06 UTC in reply to "package manager looks better"
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It is pretty easy (even for a completely new user) to change to a theme that isn't brown. However, it's almost universally accepted that everyone likes blue/gray/silver (cold colored) themes, so change might be in order... perhaps the ubuntu community should conduct a poll to see what people really think of the brown theme.

Ubuntu has not chosen brown because they think that it is the most universally liked color. Its chosen because it gives Ubuntu identity and, like you said, it is trivial to change for the end user.

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Kubuntu on PPC
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 19:24 UTC
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Any news on Kubuntu and especially PPC architecture? My iBook still has some problems (USB not working after wake-up, video DVDs not working at all, and some small aRTs issues). I've been keenly waiting for this upcoming release for many months now.

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404
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 19:40 UTC
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I have been trying to download Colony 3 from their US website, but it keeps giving me a 404 error. Anyone else experience it.?

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RE: 404
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 00:20 UTC in reply to "404"
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I gave up on the US site and grabbed Ubuntu from the other site

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Re: 404
by doug on Thu 18th Aug 2005 20:29 UTC
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Yeah, the link for the colony 3 ISO isn't there. Maybe they took it down.

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package installation
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 20:30 UTC
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Does the word "uninstallable" bother anyone else in slide 28? At first glance I thought the word meant "able to be uninstalled" instead of "not able to be installed"...

http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=414&slide=2...

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RE: package installation
by ralph on Thu 18th Aug 2005 20:58 UTC in reply to "package installation"
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Nope, it doesn't worry me at all, because it also tells the user in which repository the program is availabel and then asks him if he wants to enable this repository.

So, nope, it doesn't bother me, on the contrary, this is awesome.

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RE[2]: package installation
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 15:40 UTC in reply to "RE: package installation"
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Of course, if you ignore the "availale" spelling - there is absolutely everything right about it.

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Brown and shaping up
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 20:42 UTC
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Weird how many people complain about it being "Brown." Not only is this very changeable, but it also is a rather good decision (I find warm colors a nice relief from the loud and eye-straining colors, especially in OS X. In fact, the only thing I disliked about OS X while using it was the fact that whites everywhere really strained my vision.)

Plus, what a superficial thing to latch on. For one thing, these screenshots show that GNOME is progressing rather nicely in 2.12. I see that a service manager seems pretty mature among the capplets, and the add to panel dialog is quite neat looking. The new Nautilus is a DEFINITE and MUCH NEEDED improvement.

I'll be glad to upgrade to Breezy when it's ready.

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First impressions with Breezy
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 21:09 UTC
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I installed Breezy Badger Colony 3 last night and have been using it extensively since then. I'm very impressed with the responsiveness of GTK+ (which is now using Cairo as its backend). Some people were concerned that there would be a performance penalty with Cairo but I have yet to experience it. The Applications menu seems to open much snappier as well. Perhaps developers have solved some of the performance issues surrounding GNOME.

Boot up times could still be improved and there are some bugs still hanging around but all-in-all I've had a great time exploring Breezy.

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supersaturated yellow
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 21:26 UTC
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i rather like brown. but that is beside the point. the point being anyone and his 5 year old child can right click on a pic and select "set as wall paper".

I have been synapting breezy for a couple months now and all is well. mplayer uses real codecs to do npr stream. gaim works fine with yahoo and msn. evolution does the e-mail and has a little virus scan wizard that lets you select f-prot or clamscan for virus scanning of e-mail.

I can upload pix from my olympic 300 digital camera.

i can do msnbc pix of the week that requires flash

play chess with eboard.

yahoo toll bar install into firefox.

quite frankly ubuntu and other linux distros are ready to tackle the market but there is no one selling outside of these forums and linux mags. all linux needs is a "good" promotion and it will be an easy sell.

and i might add, if the populace could be sold win3.1 they certainly can be sold linux or even freebsd. mom and pop may be ignorant but that is not the same as stupid!

o and there is streamtuner and stream ripper and cdrtoaster and loads of apps.

i can only think of one thing that i have not gotten freebsd or linux to do that microsoft can do and that is vrml chat.

I can hear people yelling about games but the only game i'm interested in is chess.

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two thumbs up!
by Anonymous on Thu 18th Aug 2005 21:38 UTC
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Ubuntu rules!

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Removing the Brown
by saterdaies on Fri 19th Aug 2005 01:19 UTC
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It would be nice if Ubuntu set up an automated way to switch it to a more popular color. It is easy to change the desktop background and the Gnome theme and even the GDM login manager, but then there's the splash screen and the brown background color when one is logging in. Yeah, it's a tad superficial, but it would be nice if Ubuntu gave a nice easy way to switch all of those at once to a different scheme - maybe some enterprising individual can write a script with a few themes?

It's not a big problem and it is a superficial problem, but it's still a problem for a bunch of people.

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RE: Removing the Brown
by volvoguy on Fri 19th Aug 2005 07:54 UTC in reply to "Removing the Brown"
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Breezy is using the Clearlooks theme by default, which has several color variations available. I'm using Clearlook's default blue/warm grey color scheme at the moment.

There's also a dedicated Ubuntu Art website in the works. It will be open to everyone, just like art.gnome.org, but there's a good chance we'll* be promoting some of the artwork there for inclusion in Breezy. If you're interested in getting involved, check out the wiki page:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtTeam

Icons and background images have both been mentioned in this thread, and those are the two primary tasks being worked on for the Breezy release. The only new artwork that has even touched the repositories so far is the icon theme with the working title "Humility". If you're running Breezy, "gnome-humility-icon-theme" should be apt-getable - just keep in mind that it's a WIP.

*BTW - I'm the Ubuntu Art Team Coordinator, so I *usually* know what's going on in the art department. ;)

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RE[2]: Removing the Brown
by JCooper on Fri 19th Aug 2005 09:15 UTC in reply to "RE: Removing the Brown"
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I like the discussion here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopArtwork

One thing that I would request (if possible in Breezy timescales) would be a totally unified GRUB > boot > GDM > splash experience, like Suse has. It looks so darn slick! I know its possible (to an extent) to achieve this as an end-user, but having a default-slick-loading desktop would be great ;)

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RE[3]: Removing the Brown
by Anonymous on Sat 20th Aug 2005 03:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Removing the Brown"
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The following are already unified: GDM Theme, GNOME splash, GTK+ theme, Metacity theme, desktop image, desktop background color, xscreensaver login. That has been one of Ubuntu's strong points.

The GRUB menu is disabled by default (unless more than one operating system is detected during installation) but perhaps giving it a matching theme could be looked into.

Usplash is currently being worked on and will provide a graphical boot consisting of the Ubuntu Logo and a frame at the bottom of the screen which will contain the kernel messages.

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RE: Removing the Brown
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 20:30 UTC in reply to "Removing the Brown"
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First of all, I think the brown is nice, they succeeded in making a nice brown theme, it's softer for the eyes anyway. But if you're so superficial that you don't like to consider finding out how to change the colors, you can take KDE, it's got a blue theme, and I must say I changed it as soon as possible, way to disturbing al the blue.

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Yup!
by Sphinx on Fri 19th Aug 2005 03:57 UTC
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Never can see enough gnome screen shots.

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Polypaudio instead of esd?
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 04:34 UTC
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Does anybody know if the legacy esd sound daemon will finally replaced by polypaudio in the release? For Hoary Hedgehog, they tried this in betas but decided not to go for the final release.

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RE: Polypaudio instead of esd?
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 07:00 UTC in reply to "Polypaudio instead of esd?"
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Right now I'm running Breezy Colony 3 and libpolyp0 was not included during the installation. Perhaps that will change between now and the final release but with only two months until that time, I doubt any drastic changes will be made. We'll cross our fingers though ;)

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but then I realised that some apps like Emacs and
CodeForge could not be started due to missing configured colors. I think this is due to missing files like rgb.txt and or Xcms.txt. (Erroe Messages like: can't find configured color: black)

After a dist-upgrade thinks get worser and libglu1 can't be installed, so nvidia drivers stopped working. NV driver doesn't work at all. Same with Hoary, if IIRC.
The screen goes all weired. Okay, could use VESA, but 60 Hz makes my eyes bleed.

Anyway, if they get all these glitches fixed I think
this will be a great Distro like Hoary.

Thanks Ubuntu Team and Mark Shuttleworth

Bye
paines

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gamer-cd? ;)
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 09:13 UTC
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sounds like a strategy-game...
seriously they should change the packtitle.

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Icons
by Noodles on Fri 19th Aug 2005 12:31 UTC
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Gartoon icons are very cool, so why just not take that?

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RE: Icons
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 16:41 UTC in reply to "Icons"
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Gartoon will be used in Edubuntu.

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re:Art Team Coordinator
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 12:39 UTC
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Love your team's work man:) Keep it up!

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media - sound and video.
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 14:14 UTC
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I've been a ubuntu user for sometime and it is my favorite distro. I have had issue's with sound and video (X11 and multimedia apps). Hopefully they will make some improvements there. If I wasn't a unix admin I think I would be lost.

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Download Link
by miketech on Fri 19th Aug 2005 14:27 UTC
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Hi,

I´ve found this URL:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-3/

Here you can download Ubuntu Breezy Colony 3.

Greetings

Mike

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How about that .dpkg installer?
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 15:26 UTC
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Let's say i download Skype from Skype.com. How regular user should install it?

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Clock/Timezone Bug Fixed?
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 17:56 UTC
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Did anyone fix the clock and timezone bugs which plagued Ubuntu?

This was the only reason I haven't been running it.

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RE: Clock/Timezone Bug Fixed?
by Simon on Fri 19th Aug 2005 19:32 UTC in reply to "Clock/Timezone Bug Fixed?"
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1. Have you checked if the bug has been reported on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
2. If it has not been reported, have you reported this bug yourself?

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RE: Clock/Timezone Bug Fixed?
by Buffalo Soldier on Sun 21st Aug 2005 04:43 UTC in reply to "Clock/Timezone Bug Fixed?"
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> Did anyone fix the clock and timezone bugs which plagued Ubuntu?
> This was the only reason I haven't been running it.

"plagued"? Certainly would have notice an unusually high frequency of people asking to troubleshoot this problem in the ubuntuforums.org if it's widespread as a plague.

Certainly did not encountered any problem with clock and timezone myself.

Come and join us at http://ubuntuforums.org/ and let see whether we can identify and fix the problem that you're facing. And if its not a unique trouble limited solely to your installation, perhaps we can file a bug report.

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Ubuntu artwork
by Angryanderson on Fri 19th Aug 2005 18:30 UTC
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Here's a piece of proposed Ubuntu artwork that, unfortunately, didn't make it to the official Hoary release. ;-)

http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/random/3ubuntu.jpg

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RE: Ubuntu artwork
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 19:08 UTC in reply to "Ubuntu artwork"
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I vote for this! ;)

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What I really like about ubuntu...
by oracle2025 on Fri 19th Aug 2005 18:57 UTC
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What I really like about ubuntu...
is that they do not have a strong focus on bogus features like graphical boot-splash and a GUI-Installer.

These are two things that are requestet by some geeks everytime, but they have obviously very little use in "Real Life" ;)

I mean come on, I install the system maybe once a year, why would I need a GUI for that??

Ubuntu rocks ;)

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Ubuntu Doesnt work with my computer
by Anonymous on Fri 19th Aug 2005 23:28 UTC
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Umm...Not sure what versino X.org Colony3 is using but it's not compatible with my display setting.
I have a very standard setting: ATI Radeon 9800 PRO + 17" Viewsonic LCD...

I guess Colony has problem with the DVI output....it's trying to output refresh rate that's totally way beyond normal range (140Hz or something).

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spash screen on boot
by Anonymous on Sat 20th Aug 2005 20:52 UTC
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LOL... for those of you whom are looking for (Or at least talking about =P) a splash screen on boot.

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57760

This is currently being worked on... but is not yet fully integrated =)

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Brown is the new blue.
by Anonymous on Sun 21st Aug 2005 06:08 UTC
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Why doesn't someone write an app for gnome that lets you change theme colors independently. Pick your syle (gtk engine), Window decorations and your colors seperately. I'm writing this in kubuntu/KDE where this is possible of course. But this feature has been missing from Gnome for a long time.

While I was still stuck in Gnome there was an app called Gnome Configurator that had started something like this. It let you change colors of the gtk widgets and wrote out a .gtkrc file. The problem with this is it was to complicated for normal users. It should be more like the Windows or KDE one, where you click on the button to edit button color, etc.

Oh well that's just one of the reasons I left Gnome behind. To much work to tweak a color or two in a theme.

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RE: Brown is the new blue.
by Anonymous on Sun 21st Aug 2005 14:15 UTC in reply to "Brown is the new blue."
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Why doesn't someone write an app for gnome that lets you change theme colors independently. Pick your syle (gtk engine), Window decorations and your colors seperately. I'm writing this in kubuntu/KDE where this is possible of course. But this feature has been missing from Gnome for a long time.

Afaict it's intentional and entirely in line with the Gnome philosophy that the developers know better than you what you want, including colors.

On a sidenote it's *very* amusing reading gnome-users defending the defaults with "that they are trivial to change". Obviously we all have lost count on the number of times we've read or been told that KDE sucks because of the defaults.. I guess what goes around comes around. :p

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RE: Brown is the new blue.
by Anonymous on Thu 25th Aug 2005 11:09 UTC in reply to "Brown is the new blue."
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AFAIK gtk themes work different than qt's/windows themes. Color scheme is integrated into the theme and there is no easy way to change that. This gtk design issue but personaly I do not consider this as a bug or something. That's just different philosophy.

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