Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Apr 2007 08:42 UTC, submitted by John Chow
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Nokia's latest device, the N800 Internet Tablet, is unique, to say the least. It's not a smartphone, yet it can send and receive e-mail messages; it's not a phone, yet it can make phone calls; it's not a portable multimedia player; yet it can playback audio/video files; and it's not a notebook, yet it can browser the web. Are you confused yet? Alright, let's see if we can define the Nokia N800 Internet Tablet. The N800 does a lot of things, but it can't be placed in any one of the multitude of portable categories. Nope, it's in a category all by itself."
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Cool!
by Matto on Wed 18th Apr 2007 10:06 UTC
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2005-07-06

I pick mine up tomorrow, damn excited!

Anyone else have any experiences they would like to share about the n800?

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RE: Cool!
by vegai on Wed 18th Apr 2007 14:51 UTC in reply to "Cool!"
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2005-12-25

It's generally a good device, especially hardware-wise. Some details in the software platform might be better, but I believe the apparent failures there are rather compromises than anything else.

What I'd really like to see is a project that replaces Maemo (at least partially) with something else on this device.

Something that follows the principles from http://www.suckless.org perhaps.

Edited 2007-04-18 14:52

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RE[2]: Cool!
by Steven on Sat 21st Apr 2007 01:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Cool!"
Steven Member since:
2005-07-20

What I'd really like to see is a project that replaces Maemo (at least partially) with something else on this device.

You might voice your desires around handhelds.org

I don't know how "familiar" compares with "maemo," but it would be something different.

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Got a N800
by DevL on Wed 18th Apr 2007 11:25 UTC
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2005-07-06

And I absolutely love it!

Having an extremely portable Linux tablet such as the N800 is a dream come true. Excellent battery life, exceptional WLAN reception, active open source community, growing software catalog, very good browser, brilliant screen, and tremendous hackability. It's so good I can't wait to be blown away by the next generation and the next generation and so forth.

Stop by www.internettablettalk.com and www.maemo.org for an abundance of information.

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Wonder how it will stack up?
by HeLfReZ on Wed 18th Apr 2007 12:40 UTC
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2005-08-12

I haven't purchased either Nokia N device, just because I have no real need for them, but I have always been a huge fan. I wonder how they will stack up to Intel's upcoming MID. I think they will be in the same category.

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zombie process
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2005-07-08

Fantastic screen, somewhat clunky default apps, somewhat lackluster video playback which uses a very constrained format. Its major problem is that it doesn't replace any of the 3 devices it could replace, but instead only adds yet another device to your daily life to keep track of. Sadly, until it does actually replace at least one other device, I can't see it taking off. On the other hand, I said that until the iPod included a PIM that it wouldn't take off, either, so it's entirely likely I'm wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Goes obsolete quite fast?
by vegai on Wed 18th Apr 2007 14:57 UTC
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2005-12-25

A slashdot commenter spake thusly

http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=231307&cid=18782277

If that's true, it's a rather bad problem, but can be fixed by what I suggest already up there, replacing the platform with a completely free solution.

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my own N800 Experiences...
by gregh on Wed 18th Apr 2007 18:42 UTC
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2007-04-18

Hi to group... (been a lurker til now)

Anyway I own one of these N800 devices & its interesting technology. Overall I like it & see the promise of this & future Linux based handheld(s). I have had mine for about a months time.

Here are some warts that I noticed (that BTW, may get fixed with updates/revisions). Just my out of the box experience):

(no particular order of importance)

(a) an OS update (flashing) really requires WinXP. The latest upgrade will not work with OSX 10.4.9 (PPC)... OS upgrades to N800 may work better with Linux (as you would expect, however I currently have no i386 system to test this on).

(b) if you are going to do s/w development for this device you need to have an i386 system with Debian installed (Ubuntu is aok as it is Debian based at its core). This is necessary as the cross compiler needs an i386 to operate).

(c) The built in browser is Opera and even though it is pretty basic, it works aok. However flash is @ version 7 AND importantly, there is no codec to play FLV files. In other words any YouTube viewing (or its like) is out til someone gets a package(s) updates that will support this filetype. I think this the devices main flaw & needs to be resolved pronto or else wait for the 'N900?'.

(d) Updating of other s/w packages is a bit of a mix/match affair. Not 1 site to visit for updates to the device. I hope some company &/or software develoepr comes up with a 1 stop deb based package repository for this device. Mameo.org doesnt really completely fulfull this need (at present). To say this in a different way good luck to poor old non-techie 'aunt salley' if she wants to get her N800 updated with new things &/or patches... Its for tech heads only at present.

Just my 2cents. Cheers

//GregH

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well, its a great device
by vicious1 on Wed 18th Apr 2007 19:27 UTC
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Member since:
2006-11-10

and my writeup of customizing it, is still hugely popular.
If you are interested you can read it here:
http://blog.2blocksaway.com/2007/02/02/customizing-the-nokia-n800-a...
I have gotten mail from people deploying the N800 as standard mobile internet platforms in larger companies using this guide to roll out completely standardized devices. I think its an amazing platform and people generally don't use it to the fullest.

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my experience
by Eugenia on Wed 18th Apr 2007 19:39 UTC
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2005-06-28

I like the device, but I don't use it much more other than playing Mahjong on it (I got a record of 2:56 minutes - what's yours?).

My wishes:
1. Add SDHC kernel support by default
2. Add h.264 video playback support and fix 3GP support.
3. Make any arbitrary video resolution to work with the media player (right now, it must be a multiple of 16).
4. Add A2DP/AVRCP/HSP/HFP BT support for use with VoIP and music.

That's about it, especially because Flash Video is more watchable after the firmware upgrade.

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RE: my experience
by vicious1 on Wed 18th Apr 2007 21:45 UTC in reply to "my experience"
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2006-11-10

Eugenia, which "field"? My wife got 2:01 on the standard.. myself I am at 3:12 or something...

Anyway, I know SOME of the issues you are talking about is in development mainly the 3GP fix and the video resolution "independance" .. h264 I am not sure if the hardware is really on par for it. I can be wrong though.

Otherwise I agree with you.. kickass device. Oh and btw, the GPS add-on that Nokia sells for the N770 (works with the N800 too) is REALLY nice.. the only problem is the price tag for both together ;) ...

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RE[2]: my experience
by Eugenia on Wed 18th Apr 2007 23:01 UTC in reply to "RE: my experience"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I am playing the "standard" mahjong board.

>h264 I am not sure if the hardware is really on par for it.

With a bit of optimization it should be able to playback QVGA h.264 videos. Even my 200 Mhz PocketPC phone can.

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Odd review there
by ben_dash on Thu 19th Apr 2007 02:49 UTC
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2005-10-13

I wonder what kinds of other internet options the reviewer would like to see, are we talking DB9 and RJ45 or CF card support?

I'm also a bit confused by the reviewer's comment about its "lack of a portable form factor", how much more portable does it need to be?

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eh
by Hermes88 on Thu 19th Apr 2007 03:37 UTC
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2005-07-11

I like how they are so amazed when they discover (WOW!) that it sounds better through earphones than through the tiny, built-in speakers.

Made it a bit hard to take the review seriously. I thought that other than that, it was pretty good though. I wonder what sort of niche this device can fulfill.. I certainly can't think of anyone I know who would have a use for one.

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A few minor problems
by d3vi1 on Thu 19th Apr 2007 10:38 UTC
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2006-01-28

Hi,

I bought mine from the US almost 2 months ago, but I'm mostly using it in Europe.

In Europe the S signal for FM Radio is usually located in a different range, and while the FM reception is brilliant, it is mostly in MONO and not STEREO. It is in STEREO only within a couple of KM of the radio station (where the signal is brilliant). I am sure that European N800's don't have this problem.

I have also found that on some 802.11g access points, it only connects at 1 Mbps, and can get at most 500 Kbps out of them. This is annoying when you want to install a new application or when you want to update the installed ones.

There are still a few bugs with the lock screen window management code, that can be solved only by a reboot. It happens when the last focused "window" is the radio widget.

Other than that it is a wonderful device, and I couldn't imagine my life without-it. I am sure that the engineers at Nokia will fix all these issues in one of the following software releases.

Cheers,
Razvan

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