Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Jul 2007 22:22 UTC
Window Managers Openbox 3.4.3 has been released. "Openbox is a minimalistic, highly configurable, next generation window manager with extensive standards support. Openbox lets you bring the latest applications outside of a full desktop environment. Most modern applications have been written with GNOME and KDE in mind. With support for the latest freedesktop.org standards, as well as careful adherence to previous standards, Openbox provides an environment where applications work the way they were designed to."
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EGGcellent!
by 1c3d0g on Thu 26th Jul 2007 00:40 UTC
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2005-07-06

This is the best damn window manager there is, period! Openbox does what it says without drowning your system in the process...just an impressive piece of software.

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RE: EGGcellent!
by dradkowski on Thu 26th Jul 2007 08:04 UTC in reply to "EGGcellent!"
dradkowski Member since:
2006-06-07

Probably you're right mate, however, have you tried FVWM? That's the best WM ever ;)

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Is this news?
by ideasman42 on Thu 26th Jul 2007 01:41 UTC
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2007-07-20

yeah, these guys really got it right, I wash blackbox was this all those years ago.

Though I dont think this is the place for WindowManager version announcements.

OSNews should be used for OS 'News' - for example, if a new WindowManager comes out that makes an OS behave in a new or interesting way, yes thats news.

But a point revision of an existing window manager is not osnews worthy IMHO.

Edited 2007-07-26 01:42

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RE: Is this news?
by lemur2 on Thu 26th Jul 2007 02:23 UTC in reply to "Is this news?"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

But a point revision of an existing window manager is not osnews worthy IMHO.


The change list is actually quite extensive.

http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Openbox:Changelog

At a time when handheld and low-power devices are becoming more prevalent and at the same time more demanding in terms of a GUI, and there are more and more people interested in breathing new life into older and less-capable (but still functioning) hardware, I think it is interesting enough news when newer and more capable versions of a window manager are released. Not all OSes and window managers are meant for over-bloated power-hungry desktop use.

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RE: Is this news?
by iMoron on Thu 26th Jul 2007 02:34 UTC in reply to "Is this news?"
iMoron Member since:
2005-09-30

??!!??!?

What kind of question is that?

This has more to do with Operating Systems than most!

Even if it is just an update of an existing WM!

I mean, this news or any news related to window managers or desktop enviorments and its related apps are news worthy, because without them you could do nothing useful with the plain system!

Apps make or brake an OS... and desktop and window managers allow you to use your system in a more convinient way, not every body is a Command Line expert.

Operating Systems need apps to work, and this is a primary one! This allows you to manage all those other trivial apps that are not OSNews worthy...

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RE[2]: Is this news?
by ideasman42 on Thu 26th Jul 2007 13:20 UTC in reply to "RE: Is this news?"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

I mean, this news or any news related to window managers or desktop enviorments and its related apps are news worthy, because without them you could do nothing useful with the plain system!
- This seems a fairly shallow reasoning, same goes for drivers.

OpenBox is darn good so dont get me wrong, I used it on my main desktop for a while.
but there's so many window managers for linux, fvwm, windowmaker, fluxbox, openbox, E, afterstep, metacity, kwm, icewm etc... and this is only for os's that run X11!

so major releases maybe are news worthy (like when E17 hits stable!)

If window managers point releases are news, why not gdesklets, beagle, thunderbird, fbpanel, perlpanel, thunar etc.

This is what freshmeat.net is for.


PS - RE: My comment about the point release, I read the openBox changelog and it looks like a nice release, but its not newsworthy - ei, significant feature, a rewrite or some component, significantly faster etc. just good incremental changes.

Edited 2007-07-26 13:25

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RE[3]: Is this news?
by fretinator on Thu 26th Jul 2007 14:08 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Is this news?"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

If window managers point releases are news, why not gdesklets, beagle, thunderbird, fbpanel, perlpanel, thunar etc.


All good topics in my opinion! Otherwise this site would just be about when the Ubuntu or Vista developers pass alpha or beta gas.

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RE[4]: Is this news?
by ideasman42 on Thu 26th Jul 2007 15:22 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Is this news?"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

If thats the case then OSNews should report more evenly in covering this software. (I dont see any posts about new versions of icewm or any about gDesklets for example)

The interviews with smallers OS devs are great as well as one of the freetype devs. Id prefer see more interviews or even an outsiders commentary on the progress of different OS or OS-related projects are good.

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RE[5]: Is this news?
by fretinator on Thu 26th Jul 2007 15:37 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Is this news?"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Id prefer see more interviews or even an outsiders commentary on the progress of different OS or OS-related projects are good.


Here's your invitation - submit something!

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RE[5]: Is this news?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 26th Jul 2007 15:47 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Is this news?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

If thats the case then OSNews should report more evenly in covering this software. (I dont see any posts about new versions of icewm or any about gDesklets for example)

Feel free to submit. Oh, and remember, you can't demand anything from us, really.

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RE[6]: Is this news?
by ideasman42 on Thu 26th Jul 2007 15:58 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Is this news?"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

Didnt realize the mixed coverage of linux desktop software was due to lack of reporting, sorry to sound so demanding. and Ill keep contribution in mind ;)

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Minimal Desktops
by marcus0263 on Thu 26th Jul 2007 04:27 UTC
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2007-06-02

With all the bloated eye candy sucking up resources with KDE, Gnome, etc. I've been a fan of minimal Desktops for a while now. I get a wild hair every now and again and take KDE for a spin, hate it. Then I take Gnome for a spin, it's OK. I always end up going back to Fluxbox, the speed, ease of use and the tabbing just simply ROCKS.

Anyway the point is why waste so much system resources on eye candy? A desktop should look good, be very functional and just leave the resources to the application. I'm running an up to date system (AMD64 x2 6000+, 4 Gig RAM, etc.) I just love the speed, functionality and options with the "Box's" desktops!

Cheers -

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Tabbing Window Manager
by apog on Thu 26th Jul 2007 06:22 UTC
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2007-07-26

Does anybody know a simple Window Manager that allows to join many windows into one frame with tabs?
As simple as possible and non-tiling, please.
Thank you!

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RE: Tabbing Window Manager
by krtekz on Thu 26th Jul 2007 07:17 UTC in reply to "Tabbing Window Manager"
krtekz Member since:
2007-05-31

Fluxbox?

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RE: Tabbing Window Manager
by Moya on Thu 26th Jul 2007 11:38 UTC in reply to "Tabbing Window Manager"
Moya Member since:
2007-07-26

[quote]Does anybody know a simple Window Manager that allows to join many windows into one frame with tabs?
As simple as possible and non-tiling, please.
Thank you![/quote]


Pekwm
http://pekwm.org/

read about the autoproperties

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Best WM
by spaceLem on Thu 26th Jul 2007 17:46 UTC
spaceLem
Member since:
2007-07-26

I've tried Openbox before. One of my first comments was: "It's like Fluxbox, but without tabs", to which someone on the Openbox forums replied: "Don't worry! you'll soon get used to not having them!" I was not impressed.

Plus the XML format of the config files was awful to wrestle with compared to Fluxbox's much simpler format. As for ICCCM compliance, I haven't noticed any significant differences in application behaviour.

While I'll happily say that Openbox is very good, Fluxbox is simply better. I will not compare it to other WMs like FVWM having not really used them.

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