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>hat the heck is garnome?


Why don't you follow the link? Than you would have found this site which explain what GARNOME is:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/

In short: "GARNOME is a build utility that allows users to build the GNOME Desktop."

What momentum?

The most exciting things I found in the roadmap for 2.20 for me were Eye of gnome, which really got better and the fact that they added stuff to file-roller which I almost considered abandonware. That one still sucks, imo. (the ability to drag and drop between file-roller and nautilus is no longer half broken but seems to have disappeared alltogether)

There's nothing to get excited about, they do their thing, and they do no bad job, but that's expected. Same procedure as every (half)year...

True. They should have suspended public releases with GNOME 2.12 and released GNOME 2.20 as GNOME n^n.

They just don't know how to generate hype... :|

Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum?

There's just not an awful lot of interesting stuff in the release, that's probably why. They haven't lost their momentum really, but the stuff that they can throw out every six months just isn't going to be spectacular. It's just a bunch of incremental improvements and a few bug fixes.

Personally, I think the set-in-stone six month, time based release cycle has hurt them. Yes, in terms of getting a new version out a time-based release is always going to get you a new release. However, what it doesn't guarantee you is that certain features will be in a certain release. What then tends to happen is that people keep putting off the difficult, long-term decisions because they feel that they can just put it off to a later release. There's also less of a long-term roadmap.

GNOME has always been about small incremental features anyway, nothing has changed. BTW the new artwork team has not long been setup so you should see alot of fruit from that in 2.22.

What momentum?
The polar ice is melting faster than Gnome is progressing.
We'll have next ice age before Gnome 3.0

Why bother posting if you dont know what your talking about, there's lots of progress coming, you just dont need a 3.0 for it.

Why bother posting if you dont know what your talking about, there's lots of progress coming

Do you have a roadmap somewhere telling us what all that is?

http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap

It was also covered here on OSnews:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17982/The-GNOME-Roadmap

I'm surprised you don't remember, considering that you trolled that thread too. Five times, nonetheless:
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243367
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243458
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243459
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243505
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243515

The fact of the matter is that you're nothing but a bitter KDE-troll with nothing better to do than to trash-talk GNOME. You're not a developer, you don't contribute -- you're nothing but a hater. It's getting old.

Oh no, now you got me started!

Yes, file-roller is able to extract archives...
But: When I open an archive and rightclick on something in there and choose copy, I'd expect I'd be able to paste it in a directory in the filemanager. When I'm able to drag stuff around I expect to be able to drop it somewhere. I can't do it in the same file-roller window, I can't do it in Nautilus. Only use is when I have two file-roller windows open, I can drag and drop between two archives (or the same archive). I wonder who uses a functionality like this.
Alltogether I'd rather have Nautilus being able to open and browse archives, I think that would be pretty elegant and would fit with the spatial philosophy quiet well.
I feel that it is also not the fastest app, even for gnome standards, which isn't the most hectic DE either. :p
But speed has always been adressed in the past releases. As I understand, lots of old and deprecated stuff gets left out over time, they just don't make a revolution out of it, instead work slowly and incremental towards that goal.
I'd rather have something revolutionary to look forward to like Kde4 with Gnome as well, otoh. it pretty much works as trusty everyday DE.

Edited 2007-09-07 12:12 UTC

Would you like it to make coffee too?

So what archive app do you feel is better than file-roller? Nothing beats file-roller for me.

Drag and drop works fine for me, so does copy and paste - from nautilus to file-roller and vice versa. I would rather have the file manager and the archive tool be seperate apps that work well together. I like a slim file manager.

Whats slow about it?

We had something revolutionary to look forward to a few years back when gnome 'broke the mold' and birthed 2.0 now we are just all waiting to see it 'brought up to speed' and they are doing a great job of it lately IMO.

Party on, Gnome!
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gnome10years.html

I'm the last one to stop someone making me coffee.

I personally like the way I could browse archives in Norton commander. Apart from that, if I just want to extract stuff I use rightclick --> extract here.

Strange that it doesn't work here then.

That depends on how one interprets archives. Is an archive a document, like a PDF or a Jpeg? In that case opening it in a seperate app is imo. the way to go.
Or is it just a way to store files, basically like a directory or a mountpoint?
In that case I think the filemanager should do it.

Sorry, I meant Nautilus, I've been very unclear here.
And yes, I like it to be fast and slim as well. But I'd be willing to accept a slight tradeoff for functionality I'd really like.


Totally agree, and I have no problem with it. However, I think it's sad that the three-point-zero page got discarded, I find brainstorms and general 'could-be discussions' always interesting when it comes to software.

could-be discussion - http://live.gnome.org/ScratchPad

FYI nautilus just got XDS DnD support yesterday so dragging from file-roller should work now.