Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Sep 2007 17:05 UTC, submitted by Philipp Esselbach
Gnome GNOME and GARNOME 2.20.0 Release Candidate are now available for download. "This is our ninth development release and first release candidate for GNOME 2.20.0, which will be released later this month. This release is the last before hard code freeze starts on september 10th."
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Release Notes
by dmytro on Thu 6th Sep 2007 17:31 UTC
dmytro
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2005-07-09

A list of new features in Gnome 2.20 can be found at
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointNineteen/ReleaseNotes

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garnome??
by Ventajou on Thu 6th Sep 2007 18:11 UTC
Ventajou
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2006-10-31

What the heck is garnome?

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RE: garnome??
by pinky on Thu 6th Sep 2007 18:40 UTC in reply to "garnome??"
pinky Member since:
2005-07-15

>hat the heck is garnome?


Why don't you follow the link? Than you would have found this site which explain what GARNOME is:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/

In short: "GARNOME is a build utility that allows users to build the GNOME Desktop."

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v Keyboard shortcuts?
by eggman on Fri 7th Sep 2007 00:22 UTC
No interest in Gnome?
by djst on Fri 7th Sep 2007 10:12 UTC
djst
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2005-08-07

Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum?

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RE: No interest in Gnome?
by wurb on Fri 7th Sep 2007 10:40 UTC in reply to "No interest in Gnome?"
wurb Member since:
2007-01-12

What momentum?

The most exciting things I found in the roadmap for 2.20 for me were Eye of gnome, which really got better and the fact that they added stuff to file-roller which I almost considered abandonware. That one still sucks, imo. (the ability to drag and drop between file-roller and nautilus is no longer half broken but seems to have disappeared alltogether)

There's nothing to get excited about, they do their thing, and they do no bad job, but that's expected. Same procedure as every (half)year...

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RE[2]: No interest in Gnome?
by GhePeU on Fri 7th Sep 2007 11:27 UTC in reply to "RE: No interest in Gnome?"
GhePeU Member since:
2005-07-06

True. They should have suspended public releases with GNOME 2.12 and released GNOME 2.20 as GNOME n^n.

They just don't know how to generate hype... :|

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RE: No interest in Gnome?
by segedunum on Fri 7th Sep 2007 13:12 UTC in reply to "No interest in Gnome?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum?

There's just not an awful lot of interesting stuff in the release, that's probably why. They haven't lost their momentum really, but the stuff that they can throw out every six months just isn't going to be spectacular. It's just a bunch of incremental improvements and a few bug fixes.

Personally, I think the set-in-stone six month, time based release cycle has hurt them. Yes, in terms of getting a new version out a time-based release is always going to get you a new release. However, what it doesn't guarantee you is that certain features will be in a certain release. What then tends to happen is that people keep putting off the difficult, long-term decisions because they feel that they can just put it off to a later release. There's also less of a long-term roadmap.

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RE[2]: No interest in Gnome?
by SlackerJack on Fri 7th Sep 2007 15:20 UTC in reply to "RE: No interest in Gnome?"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

GNOME has always been about small incremental features anyway, nothing has changed. BTW the new artwork team has not long been setup so you should see alot of fruit from that in 2.22.

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RE: No interest in Gnome?
by shapeshifter on Sat 8th Sep 2007 09:36 UTC in reply to "No interest in Gnome?"
shapeshifter Member since:
2006-09-19

Why are there so few comments in here? Has Gnome lost its momentum?


What momentum?
The polar ice is melting faster than Gnome is progressing.
We'll have next ice age before Gnome 3.0

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RE[2]: No interest in Gnome?
by SlackerJack on Sat 8th Sep 2007 22:18 UTC in reply to "RE: No interest in Gnome?"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

Why bother posting if you dont know what your talking about, there's lots of progress coming, you just dont need a 3.0 for it.

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RE[3]: No interest in Gnome?
by segedunum on Sun 9th Sep 2007 09:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: No interest in Gnome?"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Why bother posting if you dont know what your talking about, there's lots of progress coming

Do you have a roadmap somewhere telling us what all that is?

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RE[4]: No interest in Gnome?
by kelvin on Sun 9th Sep 2007 11:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: No interest in Gnome?"
kelvin Member since:
2005-07-06

Do you have a roadmap somewhere telling us what all that is?


http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap

It was also covered here on OSnews:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17982/The-GNOME-Roadmap

I'm surprised you don't remember, considering that you trolled that thread too. Five times, nonetheless:
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243367
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243458
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243459
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243505
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17982&comment_id=243515

The fact of the matter is that you're nothing but a bitter KDE-troll with nothing better to do than to trash-talk GNOME. You're not a developer, you don't contribute -- you're nothing but a hater. It's getting old.

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looks great!
by meandean on Fri 7th Sep 2007 11:34 UTC
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2007-09-02

Looks great to me. Party-on Gnome!
Great to see EOG get a rewrite, didn't think file-roller could get much better - it performs like I expect a archive tool to perform, nice improvements in other apps, wish nautilus would stay on the slimmer side rather than pickup a lot of *features* but maybe it is time for a nautiluslim?

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RE: looks great!
by wurb on Fri 7th Sep 2007 12:11 UTC in reply to "looks great!"
wurb Member since:
2007-01-12

Oh no, now you got me started! ;)

Yes, file-roller is able to extract archives...
But: When I open an archive and rightclick on something in there and choose copy, I'd expect I'd be able to paste it in a directory in the filemanager. When I'm able to drag stuff around I expect to be able to drop it somewhere. I can't do it in the same file-roller window, I can't do it in Nautilus. Only use is when I have two file-roller windows open, I can drag and drop between two archives (or the same archive). I wonder who uses a functionality like this.
Alltogether I'd rather have Nautilus being able to open and browse archives, I think that would be pretty elegant and would fit with the spatial philosophy quiet well.
I feel that it is also not the fastest app, even for gnome standards, which isn't the most hectic DE either. :p
But speed has always been adressed in the past releases. As I understand, lots of old and deprecated stuff gets left out over time, they just don't make a revolution out of it, instead work slowly and incremental towards that goal.
I'd rather have something revolutionary to look forward to like Kde4 with Gnome as well, otoh. it pretty much works as trusty everyday DE.

Edited 2007-09-07 12:12 UTC

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RE[2]: looks great!
by meandean on Fri 7th Sep 2007 13:05 UTC in reply to "RE: looks great!"
meandean Member since:
2007-09-02

Would you like it to make coffee too?

So what archive app do you feel is better than file-roller? Nothing beats file-roller for me.

Drag and drop works fine for me, so does copy and paste - from nautilus to file-roller and vice versa. I would rather have the file manager and the archive tool be seperate apps that work well together. I like a slim file manager.

Whats slow about it?

We had something revolutionary to look forward to a few years back when gnome 'broke the mold' and birthed 2.0 now we are just all waiting to see it 'brought up to speed' and they are doing a great job of it lately IMO.

Party on, Gnome!
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gnome10years.html

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RE[3]: looks great!
by wurb on Fri 7th Sep 2007 13:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: looks great!"
wurb Member since:
2007-01-12

Would you like it to make coffee too?

I'm the last one to stop someone making me coffee.
So what archive app do you feel is better than file-roller? Nothing beats file-roller for me.

I personally like the way I could browse archives in Norton commander. Apart from that, if I just want to extract stuff I use rightclick --> extract here.
Drag and drop works fine for me, so does copy and paste - from nautilus to file-roller and vice versa.

Strange that it doesn't work here then.
I would rather have the file manager and the archive tool be seperate apps that work well together. I like a slim file manager.

That depends on how one interprets archives. Is an archive a document, like a PDF or a Jpeg? In that case opening it in a seperate app is imo. the way to go.
Or is it just a way to store files, basically like a directory or a mountpoint?
In that case I think the filemanager should do it.
Whats slow about it?

Sorry, I meant Nautilus, I've been very unclear here.
And yes, I like it to be fast and slim as well. But I'd be willing to accept a slight tradeoff for functionality I'd really like.

We had something revolutionary to look forward to a few years back when gnome 'broke the mold' and birthed 2.0 now we are just all waiting to see it 'brought up to speed' and they are doing a great job of it lately IMO.

Party on, Gnome!
http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gnome10years.html

Totally agree, and I have no problem with it. However, I think it's sad that the three-point-zero page got discarded, I find brainstorms and general 'could-be discussions' always interesting when it comes to software.

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RE[4]: looks great!
by meandean on Fri 7th Sep 2007 14:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: looks great!"
meandean Member since:
2007-09-02

could-be discussion - http://live.gnome.org/ScratchPad

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RE[2]: looks great!
by kmaraas on Tue 11th Sep 2007 08:11 UTC in reply to "RE: looks great!"
kmaraas Member since:
2005-08-15

FYI nautilus just got XDS DnD support yesterday so dragging from file-roller should work now.

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(draft) release notes
by turrini on Fri 7th Sep 2007 12:16 UTC
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2006-10-31