Linked by David Adams on Mon 9th Aug 2010 15:29 UTC, submitted by philip.may
Oracle and SUN For the first time since Sun was eaten by Oracle there was an email in my inbox today promising news and updates from the transition. As a valued member of the Sun community, we'd like to make sure you keep abreast of all the latest as we transition to Oracle. A lot of great things will be coming from the combination of Oracle and Sun and you'll want to stay informed! Here's your chance to keep up to date. Simply follow the link below and tell us a little more about yourself to receive news and information about products and events from Oracle. Maybe they are finally realising that we won't wait around forever. Time will tell if this will be substantial. The phrase 'a little slow on the uptake' leaps to mind.
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Comment by Macrat
by Macrat on Mon 9th Aug 2010 15:48 UTC
Macrat
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2006-03-27

Maybe they are finally realising that we won't wait around forever.


Naw, they just want to update their marketing database so they can spam you with "great" offers.

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RE: Comment by Macrat
by TechGeek on Mon 9th Aug 2010 16:03 UTC in reply to "Comment by Macrat"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

In Oracle's defense, the sheer amount of IP they have to go through after buying someone like Sun is staggering. Oracle has/had a responsibility to make sure they know the terms and conditions for EVERY deal Sun made that is still in effect. It took Red Hat months to do the same when they bought Qumranet and they were a small fish compared to Sun.

Edited 2010-08-09 16:03 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Macrat
by Macrat on Mon 9th Aug 2010 16:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Macrat"
Macrat Member since:
2006-03-27

In Oracle's defense, the sheer amount of IP they have to go through after buying someone like Sun is staggering.


Especially all the throw away accounts created on the developer sites by marketing required for developers to get a t-shirt. Sun managers got bonuses based on the "growth" of developers accounts.

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RE[2]: Comment by Macrat
by nt_jerkface on Mon 9th Aug 2010 20:37 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Macrat"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

It is clear that they are not treating all IP equally.

They already axed a few small projects that no one cared about.

Their business is built around a single software product. You can't expect them to fund a bunch of losing ventures like the previous CEO.

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Comment by satan666
by satan666 on Mon 9th Aug 2010 16:03 UTC
satan666
Member since:
2008-04-18

Oracle Finally Realises Some News is Good News?

The title is misleading. ;)
Hint: do a spell check.

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RE: Comment by satan666
by philip.may on Mon 9th Aug 2010 21:36 UTC in reply to "Comment by satan666"
philip.may Member since:
2005-10-19

Are you talking about 'realises'? It is spelt correctly, not everyone uses American English.

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RE[2]: Comment by satan666
by satan666 on Tue 10th Aug 2010 02:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by satan666"
satan666 Member since:
2008-04-18

No, It was just a stupid post. I wanted to remove it but the system doesn't allow me to.

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RE[3]: Comment by satan666
by philip.may on Tue 10th Aug 2010 03:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by satan666"
philip.may Member since:
2005-10-19

Oh true, nevermind ;)

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Oracle sent us a letter via Fedex....
by markee174 on Mon 9th Aug 2010 18:08 UTC
markee174
Member since:
2006-09-07

Well Oracle sent us a letter via express Fedex from Calafornia to tell us they were cancelling License agreements! So they obviously have money to spend...

http://pdf.jpedal.org/java-pdf-blog/bid/37652/Oracle-and-Java

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

That might be it but personally I think Oracle are going a bit further than that. I see some parallels in this:-
When the bought BEA (Weblogic etc) they soon put up the prices by quite a big margin.
Now Weblogic can be more expensive than Websphere App Server and is a hell of a lot more expensige than JBOSS.
With all the App server stuff from Sun now in the can, I see most of it being canned. Sun gave away far too much to make sense.
I belief is that Oracle are going to drop things like Glassfish and possibly even Netbeans.

I would like very much to be proved wrong.
We are just starting to use Glassfish in an ESB. It would be a shame to have to go back to the drawingboard.

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Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

That would suck. I like Netbeans.

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Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

The blog entry at the end of your link doesn't really say very much. I don't think that indicates anything traumatic coming in regards to Java...

Just Oracle getting ready to brand and take control of management and marketing in its own way.

Don't get me wrong... I don't really like or trust Oracle as a corporate entity but I don't think they are going to try and corner, trap and kill Java, tho' I am sure they are trying to figure out ways to make bundles of cash off it.

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markee174 Member since:
2006-09-07

I think it's a waster opportunity to communicate with the Java eco-system and ganlvanise it....

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Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't disagree. ;) Welcome to the world of giant corporations. Their waste is so big they cannot see their feet.

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The linked site is a bad joke in usability
by aargh on Tue 10th Aug 2010 10:21 UTC
aargh
Member since:
2009-10-12

The linked site is a bad joke in usability. I wasn't able to sign up in 3 minutes and I don't consider myself stupid.

I gave up. To register, they require you to sign in first. I briefly checked other pages on oracle.com, many more are in some way broken.

Edited 2010-08-10 10:27 UTC

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Beket_ Member since:
2009-07-10

I concur. I gave up as well.

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