Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 18th Nov 2005 15:50 UTC
SuSE, openSUSE SUSE Linux 10.1 alpha 3 has been released. Changes include: "Update to KDE 3.5 RC1; update of GCC to the current 4.1 development version; removal of linuxthreads support; NetworkManager will be the new way of managing changing network interfaces, Kinternet is now in maintenance mode; update to Linux kernel 2.6.14.2; /dev on tmpfs is mandatory, a static device directory is not supported any more; udev is now the sole program for handling hotplug events, superseding the old hotplug package."
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v Desktop?
by Sphinx on Fri 18th Nov 2005 16:45 UTC
RE: Desktop?
by Anonymous on Fri 18th Nov 2005 16:58 UTC in reply to "Desktop?"
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I thought Novell said only SLES and NLD would default to GNOME. Does OpenSUSE default to GNOME aswell???

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RE[2]: Desktop?
by collinm on Fri 18th Nov 2005 17:01 UTC in reply to "RE: Desktop?"
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2005-07-15

novell will continue to support kde AND gnome

when we will install sles and nld we will have choise between kde and gnome...

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RE[3]: Desktop?
by lemmy on Sat 19th Nov 2005 01:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Desktop?"
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2005-07-10

when we will install sles and nld we will have choise between kde and gnome...


how to install a server:

1. buy 19" stuff
2. put server in rack
3. install SLES (or RHEL4 or whatever) without X11
4. generate ssh keys

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RE[2]: Desktop?
by pojo on Fri 18th Nov 2005 18:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Desktop?"
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No, it lets you choose during the install process. So really, it doesn't default to anything.

I think it's great though. You get to choose what you like, instead of having it forced on you depending on the distro that you pick.

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v why
by Anonymous on Fri 18th Nov 2005 17:54 UTC
RE: Desktop?
by superstoned on Fri 18th Nov 2005 18:47 UTC
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they even put KDE ontop, as first choice, instead of gnome.

imho they should add a 'both' option, so ppl can see gnome too. even tough it sucks (under opensuse).

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RE: why
by cm__ on Fri 18th Nov 2005 19:15 UTC
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> was sphinx modded down? I see no reason for it....

Because he spread a lie (or maybe he just revealed his ignorance?) that is prone to incite yet another flamewar. Gnome is not default on the distro in question.

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X.org X11
by anonymous_coward on Fri 18th Nov 2005 20:00 UTC
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Will SUSE Linux 10.1 switch to new modular X.org X11 R7 release or stick to monolithic one?

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v RE: X.org X11
by Anonymous on Sat 19th Nov 2005 01:06 UTC in reply to "X.org X11"
RE[2]: X.org X11
by halfmanhalfamazing on Sat 19th Nov 2005 03:21 UTC in reply to "RE: X.org X11"
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2005-07-23

---------X11R7 is neither new nor modular.-----------

It's not new as in the ideas and what not, but it's "new" as in it'll be out of beta soon and become mainstream.

And I'd like to know as well.

Will OS 10.1 use X 6.9 or will it use the modular(when compared to 6.9) 7.0?

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RE: X.org X11
by Anonymous on Sat 19th Nov 2005 06:39 UTC
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SUSE Linux 10.1 will likely switch with the monolithic (as in source package) one. 10.2 will do the switch.

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Xorg
by Anonymous on Sat 19th Nov 2005 11:39 UTC
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hopefully SUSE 10.2 (oct 2006) will be able to include Xorg 7.2, because much like the case of GCC, it is the subsequent releases that see the benefit of the new modularity.

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RE: Xorg
by anonymous_coward on Sat 19th Nov 2005 14:47 UTC in reply to "Xorg"
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2005-11-15

because much like the case of GCC, it is the subsequent releases that see the benefit of the new modularity.

Well, users will see immediately benefits of modular X.org X11. For instance developer releases patched driver. User will only need to download only small package. You can save bandwidth and mirroring infrastructure.

As far as I know Ubuntu's and Fedora's devel trees switched to X.org X11R7 already.

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real interest
by Anonymous on Sat 19th Nov 2005 13:58 UTC
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I am not that sure what the inventors of the openSUSE project are actually interested in. Was this just one big marketing bloat? Are some people still completely shocked by the Novell press announcements of the last weeks. Seems like the Novell head managed almost all of their employees to fear losing their job. At least I have made the experience that when you want to discuss some issues about the openSUSE project in the last weeks you meet mainly three sorts of people: First there are those that don't know about the issue and are not responsible for any problem. Second there are those that don't answer to messages at all. And finally there are those that tell you that they have already discussed about a solution internally but they cannot tell you about it. --- Huh? Wasn't the project named _open_SUSE? --- Well, ok, they spell the "open" in openSUSE in small letters. Will they drop the small letters again like they once dropped the dots?

What's up SUSE? You can't complain about FUD that claims that Novell wants to cancel the desktop products or things like that if you give external people the impression that there is some horrible thing going on internally nobody is allowed to talk about. And you can't really eliminate that FUD by just denying it. This just leaves a similar impression like this famous German quote: "Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten." ("Nobody has the intention to build a wall." --- Walter Ulbricht said this about two months before they started to build the Berlin Wall.)

http://rschiele.blogspot.com/2005/11/real-interest.html

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performance and feature advantages......
by Anonymous on Sat 19th Nov 2005 23:43 UTC
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are what i was referring to.

tho smaller d/l's are nice too i'm sure.

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