Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Apr 2010 16:08 UTC, submitted by James
BeOS & Derivatives Haiku is aiming at a tentative May 10 release for R1 Alpha 2. Ingo Weinhold, one of the recently contracted developers, is the acting release coordinator. Testing of nightly pre-release builds is encouraged.
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Comment by aaronb
by aaronb on Sat 24th Apr 2010 16:33 UTC
aaronb
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2005-07-06

I look forwards to this release!

The only thing currently on my wish-list is an update mechanism instead of having a new image.

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RE: Comment by aaronb
by cb88 on Sat 24th Apr 2010 17:19 UTC in reply to "Comment by aaronb"
cb88 Member since:
2009-04-23

Thats probably not going to happen maybe next alpha...or later

There is an installoptionalpackages script now to make installing some extra stuff easier and Web+ is supposed to be the default browser for Alpha2. Bezilla has been removed and is now optional

Packagesfs isn't finished yet so that will probably be next alpha I think it might allow updating not sure I think the current blocker on it is having a writable overlay on top of the package so you can modify files

My Wishlist: 3D acceleration, PCI-E atheros 928X wifi support (I haven't checked but I think it still isn't), encryption of course, Stack and tile (Probably the most inovative thing at the moment)

Edited 2010-04-24 17:27 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by aaronb
by ple_mono on Sat 24th Apr 2010 18:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by aaronb"
ple_mono Member since:
2005-07-26

Didn't know what "stack and tile" was all about, but it piqued my interest; http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~lutteroth/videos/stack-and-tile.html

Great stuff! I hope there's more to come.
I've written my own tiler with "wmctrl" that can't do stuff that obviously needs to be implemented at a low level in the window manager, but it does give me some rudimentary tiling support anyway.
Free floating windows, without the ability to manage them in a slick fashion, is so '99. I wish "the big 4" dared to innovate a little bit more (looking at you OSX, Gnome, KDE, Windows).

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RE[3]: Comment by aaronb
by helf on Sat 24th Apr 2010 22:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by aaronb"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

wow, i hadnt seen that yet but that is one thing i really wanted ;) this is great.

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RE[3]: Comment by aaronb
by ssokolow on Sun 25th Apr 2010 01:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by aaronb"
ssokolow Member since:
2010-01-21

I've been doing a more primitive version of this for a while in KDE 3.5 by using two monitors and apps like Konqueror for tabbing harnesses.

Unfortunately, Konqueror 4.x is trash, but KDE 4.4 apparently introduces basic tiling and tabbing and you can get tiling on Windows with WinSplit Revolution. (Something I've begun to clone for GTK-centric X11 desktops under the name QuickTile)

Also, windows 7 introduces half-monitor tiling via window dragging, so they're not completely clueless.

...oh, and Fluxbox has had window tabbing for ages. (inspired by PWM, which introduced the idea in 2000)

Edited 2010-04-25 01:08 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by aaronb
by DaaT on Sat 24th Apr 2010 22:42 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by aaronb"
DaaT Member since:
2005-10-21

My laptop has an Atheros AR9285 wifi card and it's supported.

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RE[3]: Comment by aaronb
by cb88 on Sun 25th Apr 2010 00:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by aaronb"
cb88 Member since:
2009-04-23

Is that on PCI-E?

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RE: Comment by aaronb
by danboid on Sun 25th Apr 2010 09:43 UTC in reply to "Comment by aaronb"
danboid Member since:
2006-03-21

I realise Haiku is still missing a package manager and online update mechanism but you can update your base Haiku system by running the installer, choosing your existing Haiku drive as destination then choosing to only update changed files. Its worked for me.

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RE[2]: Comment by aaronb
by aaronb on Sun 25th Apr 2010 10:26 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by aaronb"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

Nice, I will give that a go.

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Why not?
by fretinator on Sat 24th Apr 2010 19:43 UTC
fretinator
Member since:
2005-07-06

Another OS?
Surely we have too many
Simple, beautiful

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External Display Support
by OSGuy on Sat 24th Apr 2010 22:00 UTC
OSGuy
Member since:
2006-01-01

I know I might be asking for too much but is there an external display support? I want Haiku on my 20" Samsung wide screen monitor over my 15.4" laptop ;) Last time I checked I could not find an option for this.

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RE: External Display Support
by jokkel on Sat 24th Apr 2010 22:29 UTC in reply to "External Display Support"
jokkel Member since:
2008-07-07

I know that there's no multiple display support. So it seems you're out of luck. The drivers are framebuffer only as far as I know.

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RE[2]: External Display Support
by anevilyak on Sun 25th Apr 2010 00:21 UTC in reply to "RE: External Display Support"
anevilyak Member since:
2005-09-14

Incorrect on both counts, the radeon and nvidia drivers support multiple monitors, assuming you have one of the chipsets they support, and the drivers will use bit blit acceleration if available, just not the other drawing ops since everything is double buffered.

Edited 2010-04-25 00:22 UTC

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RE[3]: External Display Support
by jokkel on Sun 25th Apr 2010 11:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: External Display Support"
jokkel Member since:
2008-07-07

I stand corrected. Thanks.

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Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

Additionally, when I plug a monitor into my Dell laptop or Toshiba 205 netbook the VESA drivers support the external monitor as the display unit.

And for those who have not tried Haiku, VESA is very very fast on it.

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Can't wait
by th3rmite on Sun 25th Apr 2010 01:23 UTC
th3rmite
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2006-01-08

I remember the first time I messed with BeOS in 1998. Tried using it as my main desktop in 2002, but it was already feeling very dated. I think Haiku, when it is finished will definitely be a contender in the desktop or netbook arena.

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No Excitement?
by parrotjoe on Tue 27th Apr 2010 00:31 UTC
parrotjoe
Member since:
2005-07-06

So few comments on this! As far as I'm concerned, THERE IS NO PAST, THERE IS NO FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY HAIKU ALPHA 2!!!!!

(Please forgive me, I'm only shouting for fun - I'm not shouting at anyone).

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Looking Forward to more Haiku...
by Jedd on Thu 29th Apr 2010 07:17 UTC
Jedd
Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm definately looking forward to this release. I'm a longtime B OS fan and parttime user. Haiku is very promising OS. I'd especially like to see is run well on machines like the Asus Eee PC Netbook. ;)

/My 2-cents

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