Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 29th Sep 2011 19:48 UTC, submitted by fran
Linux "Intel and Samsung are now confirmed to be working under the umbrella of the Linux Foundation, and with the cooperation of the Limo Foundation, on 'Tizen', a new mobile operating system based on Linux. Various rumours about the parties' future plans for MeeGo and merging of plans have been in circulation, but the announcement of a new operating system was unexpected. The Tizen operating system will combine components of MeeGo and Limo with an emphasis on supporting HTML5-based applications and WAC (Wholesale Applications Community) distribution and APIs. WAC is the product of a number of mobile companies who have developed a uniform platform for mobile widgets and applications based on W3C standards."
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by kragil on Thu 29th Sep 2011 20:07 UTC
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by Hiev on Thu 29th Sep 2011 20:15 UTC
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In order for Intel to bring other companies on board, they needed to cut all ties with Nokia and make a concession by losing Qt. But if you're throwing out Qt, the value proposition of MeeGo needs to be reconsidered. Without Qt, MeeGo doesn't have the rich developer story – no APIs, SDK, documentation. You need an alternative

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good luck
by fran on Thu 29th Sep 2011 20:23 UTC
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Right now i'm so skeptical by all this mobile OS failures, but still good luck to Tizen.

Edited 2011-09-29 20:24 UTC

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Meanwhile in GNU/Linux...
by tidux on Thu 29th Sep 2011 20:29 UTC
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GNOME 3.2 is actually a pretty good tablet interface from what I've seen thus far. Why not just put out a Medfield/Fedora 16 tablet with full-sized ports?

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RE: Meanwhile in GNU/Linux...
by Hiev on Thu 29th Sep 2011 20:32 UTC in reply to "Meanwhile in GNU/Linux..."
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It is actually pretty good with tables, but they wan't to use it also in Smart Phones, so GNOME 3.2 is a no go for them.

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RE[2]: Meanwhile in GNU/Linux...
by tidux on Thu 29th Sep 2011 20:40 UTC in reply to "RE: Meanwhile in GNU/Linux..."
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I wonder how hard it'd be to create a GNOME-minishell, like the alternate Plasma workspaces for KDE, but focused on phones. Plus, if they're working with distributions of GNU/Linux, there'll be a lot more pressure to put all the device drivers in the mainline kernel as GPL modules.

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Tizen
by qroon on Thu 29th Sep 2011 21:06 UTC
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Really, what's up with the name? Is this after a boxer? Are they alluding to knocking out Android and IOS? ;)

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Comment by motang
by motang on Thu 29th Sep 2011 21:09 UTC
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Just let this die already, all the dignity it had at once are no more!

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Comment by transami
by transami on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:22 UTC
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Anyone want to explain to me how HP and Nokia, both via maverick CEOs, have manged to all but reduce our mobile OS options to Apple and Windows (again)? Yes, there is Android, but with Microsoft strong-arming hardware makers to pay royalties on Andriod (I mean got God's sake, Microsoft gets royalties but Google doesn't?!) That future it looking bleaker too.

It's almost as if the the open source revolution never happened.

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RE: Comment by transami
by ozonehole on Fri 30th Sep 2011 01:30 UTC in reply to "Comment by transami"
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(I mean got God's sake, Microsoft gets royalties but Google doesn't?!)

Yes, perfectly outrageous. And it's enough of a bad situation that I simply won't buy a smart phone from any company that signs a deal with Microsoft. I was just getting ready to buy my first Samsung phone - now, I'll look elsewhere.

Software patents are evil. The USA's corrupt politicians are totally owned by big corporations - that is why we have software patents, not because there is any need for them. There was a time when America would wag its finger at banana republics, telling them to clean up their corruption, and I would agree. Nowadays, America still does this, but it is like the pot calling the kettle "black." The USA is on the fast track to becoming the world's biggest banana republic.

Edited 2011-09-30 01:38 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by transami
by zima on Thu 6th Oct 2011 23:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by transami"
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Ugh, it seems you are not aware of all the stuff CIA did in "banana republics" to keep them down, destabilised, corrupt, with oppressive regimes, so the US population can happily have their cheap bananas made by impoverished (hence less reliant high pays and such in the first place) people?

Such stuff is happening also now, US recently influenced legislative process in Haiti so that minimal wages won't rise too much, so the profits on Levi's and such would fall few million less, making the shareholders - people in the general population, and/or those working on increasing your savings or retirement funds - will be happy.

Generally, politicians come from their societies, are largely reflection of them, what the society collectively chooses to promote.

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Meanwhile...
by Sodki on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:34 UTC
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... my noble Nokia N900, with the super deprecated Maemo OS, is still chugging along with various comunity updates. And I love it.

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RE: Meanwhile...
by sparkyERTW on Fri 30th Sep 2011 13:42 UTC in reply to "Meanwhile..."
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... my noble Nokia N900, with the super deprecated Maemo OS, is still chugging along with various comunity updates. And I love it.


It really is fantastic. However, the community is starting to fracture with no foreseeable future devices to move to and developers leave for greener pastures. So disappointing, but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

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Yet another mobile OS
by twitterfire on Fri 30th Sep 2011 01:43 UTC
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I believe that we have too many right now. I think WebOS will die, Tablet OS will die, too and Bada might die. Symbian and Meego are already dead. Waste of time and resources.

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RE: Yet another mobile OS
by dsmogor on Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:34 UTC in reply to "Yet another mobile OS"
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If there's any of current mobile oses that experiences super growth it is Bada. It's the only smarphone os (besides deprecated symbian) that addresses battery life problem appropriately.

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RE[2]: Yet another mobile OS
by dsmogor on Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Yet another mobile OS"
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I certainly meant also ran os'es.

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Another road to nowhere
by moondevil on Fri 30th Sep 2011 13:00 UTC
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I was considering buying one of the few netbooks from Asus or Acer that come with MeeGo but this settles the question.

I will most likely go with Asus Transformer or Pad.

Desktop applications should be coded with proper SDKs. I really don't understand this fad of creating desktop applications with HTML5/JavaScript.

As with all fads it will be forgotten in the next two years and Tizen will join WebOS in heaven.

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RE: Another road to nowhere
by twitterfire on Fri 30th Sep 2011 23:51 UTC in reply to "Another road to nowhere"
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Desktop applications should be coded with proper SDKs. I really don't understand this fad of creating desktop applications with HTML5/JavaScript.

As with all fads it will be forgotten in the next two years and Tizen will join WebOS in heaven.


This dumb thing was started by Microsoft trying to make web designers(HTML/JS) think they can do "real" programming and "real" apps too. It's just recycling web designers.

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RE[2]: Another road to nowhere
by moondevil on Sat 1st Oct 2011 07:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Another road to nowhere"
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This dumb thing was started by Microsoft trying to make web designers(HTML/JS) think they can do "real" programming and "real" apps too. It's just recycling web designers.


Don't put the blame on Microsoft for this one. They are just following the trend with Windows 8, if that is what you mean.

Nokia had WebWidgets on Symbian, Apple initially only allowed Web based Apps, Psion followed with WebOS and Google is advocating ChromeOS.

All of this happened long before Microsoft had anything to say about it.

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RE[3]: Another road to nowhere
by twitterfire on Sat 1st Oct 2011 13:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Another road to nowhere"
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Don't put the blame on Microsoft for this one. They are just following the trend with Windows 8, if that is what you mean.


Well, allow me to say that this trend is a dumb one. You can't match the performance, customization and usability of desktop specific programming languages/toolkits/apis/tools. Can't really compare HTML with C/C++/Java/C#/Delphi. However I think that HTML is suitable for designing UIs and skins, but I think also that pure XML would be more suitable.

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RE[4]: Another road to nowhere
by tidux on Sat 1st Oct 2011 15:35 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Another road to nowhere"
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That already exists in Gtk+. It's called "Glade" and lets you define a Gtk+ interface with an XML file, at the price (at least with Desmume) of not being able to resize the window.

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I think this will fail
by jgfenix on Fri 30th Sep 2011 17:33 UTC
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HTML as the only/main SDK is an error. I prefered Meego or even Openmoko.
I I don´t trust Intel: they keep changing their mind without reaching an usable state.

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RE: I think this will fail
by twitterfire on Fri 30th Sep 2011 23:53 UTC in reply to "I think this will fail"
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HTML as the only/main SDK is an error. I prefered Meego or even Openmoko.
I I don´t trust Intel: they keep changing their mind without reaching an usable state.


Right now they are busy with their HTML apps, but I bet they will announce the death of Tizen and the start of a new OS in now more than 2 years from now.

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