Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 17:30 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Consumers will soon be able to recognize Web sites specially designed for use by mobile phones by the new .mobi suffix, which will be introduced alongside the popular .com and other top-level domain names. Update: Opinion of a mobile phone web browser engineer on this (& ex-Be kernel engineer).
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mobi?
by cprpop on Mon 11th Jul 2005 18:37 UTC
cprpop
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2005-07-05

What's with the short TLD's? "mobi" sounds like some sort of plural for "mob".

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RE: mobi?
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 19:21 UTC in reply to "mobi?"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Mobi = Mobile.

They could use three letters, but, erm, 'mob'.

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RE[2]: mobi?
by hobgoblin on Tue 12th Jul 2005 09:16 UTC in reply to "RE: mobi?"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

maybe they should have gone with cell instead?
oh wait, ibm is knocking on the door...

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RE[3]: mobi?
by Anonymous on Tue 12th Jul 2005 13:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: mobi?"
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1. "Cell" is not an international term
2. You've actually increased the number of keypresses required to enter the domain

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RE[4]: mobi?
by hobgoblin on Wed 13th Jul 2005 10:39 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: mobi?"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

1. well neither is .com, .biz and a lot of the other top level domains. if you look closely, english is the language of the net, like it or not.

2. maybe i did. i didnt bother to check ;)

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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
by Network23 on Mon 11th Jul 2005 20:36 UTC
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2005-07-11

This is sooo invented by clueless n00bs.

How many serious .biz-sites have you used? .info? .name? .aero? .museum?

The .mobi TLD will crash and burn after a lot of people have lost their money. And the blamestorming will start at Nokia, Ericsson and other clueless companies.

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why shorten it?
by Mucman on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:04 UTC
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2005-07-06

Is it really asking too much to get people to type in .mobile?

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RE: why shorten it?
by Anonymous on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:16 UTC in reply to "why shorten it?"
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Is it really asking too much to get people to type in .mobile?

Yes. Ever typed a URL using a numeric keypad? They should just use 'm.website.com' or something.

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RE[2]: why shorten it?
by Mucman on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:58 UTC in reply to "RE: why shorten it?"
Mucman Member since:
2005-07-06

Very good point. I've never used a mobile device to check out the Net.

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A better suggestion
by Kyle on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:05 UTC
Kyle
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2005-07-06

Honestly, a better recommendation would be that all sites use mobile.sitename.tld.

So, mobile.cnn.com, mobile.slashdot.org, mobile.osnews.com, etc.

That way you always know you are going to the stripped-down, lower bandwidth, properly loading version.

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RE: A better suggestion
by hobgoblin on Tue 12th Jul 2005 09:17 UTC in reply to "A better suggestion"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

as in wap.osnews.com?

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Hurry it up guys!
by ma_d on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:19 UTC
ma_d
Member since:
2005-06-29

http://osnews.mobi ;) .

Actually, I don't care.

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RE: Hurry it up guys!
by David on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:21 UTC in reply to "Hurry it up guys!"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

Just go to osnews.com with your mobile device and we'll auto-recognize it. That's one of the reasons why I think this TLD isn't really necessary. Why make a TLD for a mobile ghetto when you don't really have to?

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.mobi is an clueless invention
by Network23 on Tue 12th Jul 2005 07:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Hurry it up guys!"
Network23 Member since:
2005-07-11

Just go to osnews.com with your mobile device and we'll auto-recognize it.

Correct. Skilful web publishers already does this.

But have in mind that "mobile browsers" will become more and more competent.

Some of SonyEricssons small phones (not the PDA types) already have a beatliful 320x240 screen (S700 etc), can use SVG and Flash Lite and Nokia is developing new browsers based on Apple WebCore (Safari), with a built in disk drive etc which means we will have full featured web browsers in our small cell phones within a year or two. Ordinary, small sized phones. Not the clumsy PDA-bricks.

Who then would like to be redirected to a crappy WAP 1.0 compliant information .mobi page with 1-bit WBMP graphics?

The focus should be on making your web content XHTML compatible and allow the browser to make the best of it; desktop, server, laptop, embedded, game or cell phone browser.

.mobi is an clueless invention by a bunch of fucking MBA n00bs.

Skilful web publishers know how to provide good information for mobile browsers. The rest of us are already using http://wap.example.com/ or http://www.example.com/wap/

.mobi is an clueless invention by a bunch of fucking MBA n00bs.

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cash?
by JrezIN on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:28 UTC
JrezIN
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2005-06-29

What's up with top-level domains? I can understand .xxx as it's a way to categorize this content that lot's of people don't like to access or don't want their kids accessing it... but .mobi? The tendency wasn't about integration? About mobile devices catching-up with the rest of the web soon? What justify a .mobi top level besides selling ring tones and other really specific content?

Just wondering if all these new top-level domains aren't just about the money they make... =|

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more money making schemes :)
by mini-me on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:18 UTC
mini-me
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2005-07-06

I dont get the new TLD.
I would never register it even if I had a mobile site running.
a mobi site can be a hobby one, a company one, or an edu one -
mobile.institution.edu
or
mobi.apple.com

makes much more sense to me

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What happened to WML or whatever it was
by Anonymous on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:27 UTC
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There was a markup language specifically for mobile devices...what happened to that? What about using different style sheets? Why a whole new domain?

When I registered a domain, I had a whole bunch of TLDs to choose from, but .biz sounds really stupid and cheap, etc., and I just picked a .com, because it has credibilty. I just didn't feel that the average clueless user would be comfortable typing in a credit card number to *.biz--it's psychological, yes, but this matters in business.

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This Sucks seriously
by anand78 on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:40 UTC
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2005-07-07

Maybe the people who make such domains dont' own a mobile device. Usability is something that comes least when I hear .mobi. Isn't it hard enough to use the 10 buttons to type 26 charcters and special charcters to have come with .mobi extension.

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More domain registrations to fight over!
by TrevorB on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:53 UTC
TrevorB
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2005-07-11

I can't wait to go out and buy up .mobi domains to mirror all of my existing sites! Hooray!

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

And I can't wait till I start getting letters from the pseudo-domain slammers who have registered .mobi versions of my domains and are trying to sell them to me.

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Idiots
by drewunwired on Tue 12th Jul 2005 02:26 UTC
drewunwired
Member since:
2005-07-06

To make ICANN realize what they have accomplished, I think they should be forced to try typing it www.xyzzy.mobi on their mobile from 2001. Then let's see how much better they like JBQ's .wap instead.

Also, did anyone notice how Reuters misspelled Luxembourg in the article?

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RE: Idiots
by drewunwired on Tue 12th Jul 2005 02:27 UTC in reply to "Idiots"
drewunwired Member since:
2005-07-06

Make that "typing in," not "typing it." Oops.

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Now .mobi
by gonzalo on Tue 12th Jul 2005 05:21 UTC
gonzalo
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2005-07-06

Later .chembros or .daftp


Sorry, had to say it. Seriously talking I just can't see how the TLD system can get any more absurd.

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Re: .mobi is an clueless invention
by Kyle on Tue 12th Jul 2005 14:33 UTC
Kyle
Member since:
2005-07-06

I agree.

If you follow XHTML/HTML web standards properly, then developing a mobile page is easy. Your page will already be lightweight from following the standards and avoiding tag soup (no tables for layout!). All that is necessary is to specify a good style sheet for mobile devices. Any mobile device worth its salt will pick up on this style sheet. The mobile style sheet just has to be basic and not include a lot of large images or funky placement on a page.

You would also want to customize any ads for a mobile device. Possibly go with text or a small image. Hide any big ads, too.

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hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

" The mobile style sheet just has to be basic and not include a lot of large images or funky placement on a page."

and about every page out there contains atleast some elements like these ;)

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