Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:08 UTC
Apple The first commercial Apple Macintosh computers running on Intel processors may be released a bit earlier than expected, believes UBS Investment Research analyst Ben Reitzes. He claims that Apple will have new products and content to announced at the Macworld Expo scheduled for early January and notes that Intel is expected to unveil its dual-core Yonah processor for mobiles also early next year.
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by suryad on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:13 UTC
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The sooner the better. I am darn interested in seeing the options I have when the Macs get launched finally so I can supplement my existing Windows XP setup.

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v RE: ...
by DittoBox on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:23 UTC in reply to "..."
Mac Mini
by mail4asim on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:17 UTC
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I have been holding off buying a Mac Mini just for this single reason.. I want a mac mini with Intel Processor.. and hopefully with enough graphics power to support core image..

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RE: Mac Mini
by alcibiades on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:49 UTC in reply to "Mac Mini"
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Perfectly reasonable comments. Why is this one and the one above it marked down? This is what he wants, why he's been holding off. I mean, not very thought provoking, but not stupid or insulting.

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Yup...
by Eugenia on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:17 UTC
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Yup, as I wrote in my blog a month ago, it makes sense. We will have Intel Macs by Macworld, this coming January. ;)

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RE: Yup...
by The Baron on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:28 UTC in reply to "Yup..."
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The big issue with them releasing Intel based Macs in January is that they really need to have some 3rd Party software ready at the same time.

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v RE: Yup...
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 01:22 UTC in reply to "Yup..."
Triple Boot
by Devilotx on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:22 UTC
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I can't wait for my tri-boot OSX - Windows - Suse powerbook :-D

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RE: Triple Boot
by jaboua on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:25 UTC in reply to "Triple Boot"
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This looks like a fine setup (as log as it has enough storage) - I want a intel-mac too ;)

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v RE: Triple Boot
by DittoBox on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:23 UTC in reply to "Triple Boot"
RE[2]: Triple Boot
by Celerate on Wed 9th Nov 2005 01:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Triple Boot"
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Today there's been more people voting down legit comments than normal and then voting up troll posts, the same happened just minutes ago in the KDE article that's up two from this one on the main page.

I really hope whoever maintains the site does something to fix this, I strongly believe that some people have multiple accounts and are using those to abuse the voting system.

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Interesting
by Smartpatrol on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:24 UTC
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Well if this is the case then the manufacturing of these systems should be happening now. I doubt those involved in making the new intel macs can keep quiet on it.

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RE: Interesting
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:35 UTC in reply to "Interesting"
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>>I doubt those involved in making the new intel macs can keep quiet on it.

Those involved in making the Mac mini, the new iMac and the iPod nano managed to kee quiet about it.

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v awsome
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:30 UTC
RE: awsome
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:38 UTC in reply to "awsome"
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>>who in their right mind would WANT an intel based mac? go buy a dell...

Compare this http://www.cheapcomputerdeal.com/images/dell%20pc.jpg
to this http://images.apple.com/macmini/gallery/images/hands20050111.jpg

Any questions?

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v RE[2]: awsome
by somebody on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:44 UTC in reply to "RE: awsome"
RE[3]: awsome
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 03:10 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: awsome"
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>>Yeah. Where's TV-Out on miniMac?

Why do people keep harping on this? The Mac mini has DVI out! Don't most high-end TVs have DVI in? Don't DVI to S-Video adapters exist? What exactly are you bitching about when you ask for TV-out? Analog RCA outputs? It's 2005. Join us.

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RE[4]: awsome
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 03:26 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: awsome"
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Here, I found this in two seconds using Google. Anybody who wants to connect their Mac mini to their TV can spend a whopping $19 and then shut the f--k up.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?product...

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RE[2]: awsome
by alcibiades on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:47 UTC in reply to "RE: awsome"
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You have to ask: how much, what spec?

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RE[3]: awsome
by Varg Vikernes on Wed 9th Nov 2005 01:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: awsome"
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RE[2]: awsome
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 15:26 UTC in reply to "RE: awsome"
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>>who in their right mind would WANT an intel based mac? go buy a dell...

Compare this http://www.cheapcomputerdeal.com/images/dell%20pc.jpg
to this http://images.apple.com/macmini/gallery/images/hands20050111.jpg

Any questions?

- Yes, her hands ARE Prettier.

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RE[2]: awsome
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 16:34 UTC in reply to "RE: awsome"
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yes, How much is the monitor included in the Dell?
And I prefer this dell: http://news.designtechnica.com/images/stories/2005/9/8408/XPS_200.j...

Sorry for my bad English.

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v RE: awsome
by rayiner on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:50 UTC in reply to "awsome"
v RE[2]: awsome
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 21:05 UTC in reply to "RE: awsome"
v RE[3]: awsome
by Celerate on Wed 9th Nov 2005 01:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: awsome"
Macintel
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:32 UTC
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A Mac capable of also booting windows when needed is a dream come true for many people. Yesssssss!

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RE: Macintel
by timosa on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:00 UTC in reply to "Macintel"
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You may be even able to use Windows without dual-booting. Yonah should support hardware virtualization (aka Vanderpool in Intel processors) which should allow you to run Windows inside your Mac OS.

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Intel Macs in January
by TaterSalad on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:41 UTC
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I really want to believe they will be out in January, but the voice in my head is saying don't get my hopes up. Januaury seems just a bit too soon. My feelings will be neutral until Macworld.

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Needs software
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:42 UTC
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Not until there's plenty of software. A year is *barely* enough time for the transition.

Apple is almost certainly rolling out prorotypes right now -- and I'm sure it runs great -- but I'd be very surprised if they actually begin selling any before june, because June is when they TOLD the software devs they'd be delivering.

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RE: Needs software
by neowolf on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:45 UTC
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It will have have been more like about half a year really. That being said, from what I've heard most major companies are already mostly done. Some smaller devs may end up having to wait until they have their own IntelliMacs to test on as not everyone can afford a test machine.

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RE[2]: Needs software
by mouth on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:28 UTC in reply to "RE: Needs software"
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With the exclusion of the major players (like Adobe), there are 3rd applications that have already been compiled for both PowerPC and x86. To see this, from OS X 10.4.3, "Get Info" on any application, and then choose "More info". There, it should list the "Architecture[s]" that the application has been compiled for. Although the majority of my apps state PowerPC, there are a couple (BBEdit, CuberDuck) that show PowerPC, x86.

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RE[3]: Needs software
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 15:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Needs software"
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With the exclusion of the major players (like Adobe), there are 3rd applications that have already been compiled for both PowerPC and x86. To see this, from OS X 10.4.3, "Get Info" on any application, and then choose "More info". There, it should list the "Architecture[s]" that the application has been compiled for. Although the majority of my apps state PowerPC, there are a couple (BBEdit, CuberDuck) that show PowerPC, x86.

- FileMaker Pro 8, isn't ready yet.
Just PowerPC.

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RE: RE[2]: awsome
by neowolf on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:47 UTC
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You can buy a small adapter for the mini's DVI port to get TV-Out. I intend to make a mini into a gaming station later on via this.

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v ehh
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:48 UTC
Mac mini ann iBook best for early release
by bsharitt on Tue 8th Nov 2005 19:51 UTC
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The Mac mini and iBook make the most sense for the early release. For most of the consumer uses targeted by them, they use Apple's own software(iTunes, Safari, iPhoto, etc), which are either native, or will be native by launch, and don't really have to worry about big applications being ready.

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My next Computer...
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:03 UTC
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Will be a 64bit dual core x86 Mac (possibly multiple dual core CPUs) with shared L2 cache and the latest Instruction set trimmings booting Windows and OSX. As soon as a Conroe or Morem based mac is available and I have the cash I'm making my purchase.

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why release in jan.?
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:19 UTC
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why release in early jan. after the xmas season? the first quarter of the year is a bad time to release expensive new products. make it the second quarter of the year after people have paid off their xmas bills.

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RE: why release in jan.?
by parrotjoe on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:49 UTC in reply to "why release in jan.?"
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On the other hand, it could be a good "testing" period...see how things go with the early adopters.

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v RE: Triple Boot
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 20:28 UTC
RE[2]: Triple Boot
by Ronald Vos on Tue 8th Nov 2005 23:11 UTC in reply to "RE: Triple Boot"
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Do you need a personal computer? Buy a Mac and use Mac OS X.
Do you need a game machine? Buy a console.


Do you want loads of (free)(yet legal) games? Live with Windows.

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AAPL
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 21:00 UTC
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Buy AAPL, nothing but upside with all the products coming out next year. The "switchers" will flock to x86 Apple products, since dual booting to Windows is an option when needed.

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v RE: AAPL
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 12:24 UTC in reply to "AAPL"
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The demons of redmond are waiting for this moment,
for the moment Apple comes to x86,
so they can market their software,
on yet another platform

"Fresh souls" one of the demons will howl to another
"Yes, and some old ones who knew our ways"
Both nod to each other while wiping each other's ass with a stack of crisp twenties.

"Now they will all fall in line" muses the first
"And they will forget about the penguin"

The two demons chuckle as the first tosses a chair to keep the fires of hell burning.

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I'm confused.
Oher than Access and FrontPage what applications that MS makes large dollar amounts from are not already available on the Mac?
Are you suggesting that this is an opportunity for them to sell Windows to run on MacTel machines? I think if people are going to install Windows on their shiny new Intel Macs it will be from disks they already own rather than brand new copies. I won't even SUGGEST that people might install illicit copies.

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Well, they can offer "amnesty" to all those illicit copy users and get $20 for each illegal copy - multiplied by how many illegal copy users out there? - Big Bucks!

Now to mention that MS has site license agreements which now just cover x86 dell, hp, compaq etc hardware. Image if they charged *more* for a site license if the site has x86 macs which could run windows -- just a thought

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MS office on Mac intell?
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 22:12 UTC
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I'm not sure about it, whatever MS promised before. Why would Ms do Office for mac if the user can log into to XP (Vista) and pay for it too?

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Excellent
by ma_d on Tue 8th Nov 2005 22:28 UTC
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That's great news, it's good to see someone who's obviously making reasonable time predictions about their upcoming products. And now they may even beat the time they promised, it's like ... anti-vaporware ;) .

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Forth coming experiences.
by Anonymous on Tue 8th Nov 2005 23:27 UTC
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I can see the newsgroup post now:

Hi,

Microsoft Windows Defender (formally AntiSpyware), just wiped out my OS X Partition could you help me fix it.

Many thanks

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no
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 00:04 UTC
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very cool, no reason not to release earily.

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I so badly want to believe...
by Tuishimi on Wed 9th Nov 2005 00:25 UTC
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...that they will be here for January. But didn't Intel say that Yonah won't even be ready until then, at least? So if that is the case, they cannot be building Mactel mini's with Yonahs... I'll wait, if this all comes to pass, until April, when I think they will really be released.

But if they come in January, I am selling my dogs and cat and parrots (I'll keep the wife and kids) and buying one!

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v RE: I so badly want to believe...
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 12:27 UTC in reply to "I so badly want to believe..."
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That's a nice thing to say about someone. I can see commenting about the chip, but don't attack a person for what they say.

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v a stepping stone
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 00:26 UTC
v A cheaper Developer Transition Kit
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 02:44 UTC
Oh great!
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 11:48 UTC
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Does this mean I'll be able to pick up a cheap PPC mac now?

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v Garbage
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 11:50 UTC
v RE: Garbage
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 12:02 UTC in reply to "Garbage"
x86 Mac
by Anonymous on Wed 9th Nov 2005 16:54 UTC
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I have put off buying a new machine in anticipation of dual booting Windows and OSX on the same box. If Apple releases a x86 laptop with a decent graphics chip at MacWorld in January, they can expect to have my monetary support. It would also be the first Mac I've ever purchased ...

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RE: x86 Mac
by Tuishimi on Wed 9th Nov 2005 18:34 UTC in reply to "x86 Mac"
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re: graphics chip. I am with you on that! Is the problem that a lot of the better chips simply run too hot to cram into the mini or a laptop? If that is the case, will they EVER be able to upgrade the graphics without implementing some sort of special cooling?

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Etiquette
by Tuishimi on Wed 9th Nov 2005 18:32 UTC
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Thank you for whoever modded down "Anonymous". Not sure why people feel the need to do more than comment about the presented article or information contained therein.

People, if you disagree with something someone comments on ABOUT THE ARTICLE then voice your opinion. Provide REASONS for your disagreement.

Comments like "That's stupid!" "Yonah is a joke!" are useless and meaningless. Further, attacking the writer of a comment is neither polite nor necessary, nor is it supported by the rules of this news board.

Sorry for my "rant". I am probably guilty of this at times as well, but at least I generally recognize it and try to rectify it.

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