Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 11th May 2006 15:53 UTC, submitted by Philipp Esselbach
SuSE, openSUSE "After lot of work and several delays, we proudly announce the availability of SUSE Linux 10.1. In tribute to 42 and as today is the fifth anniversary of the death of Douglas Adams, we dedicate this release to him. As usual, we ship all the latest open source packages available at the time. But we want to give special mention to Xgl for 3D acceleration on the desktop, NetworkManager for getting painless wifi access everywhere, the completely open source AppArmor 2.0, and the full integration of XEN 3 in YaST." You can get it from the download page. Update: Screenshots.
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FTP install
by Lengsel on Thu 11th May 2006 16:09 UTC
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2006-04-19

Can anyone help with the info for doing an FTP install of 10.1 since there's no DVD available? I mean like ip address, web directory address, all that stuff. I don't want to burn a bunch of CD's, that's why I'm opting for ftp.

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RE: FTP install
by Knuckles on Thu 11th May 2006 16:16 UTC in reply to "FTP install"
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2005-06-29

You can wait until next week for the dvd, or just use any mirror for example the official one:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/.

I haven't done a ftp install in a while, but I think you don't needed the ip address, you can use the domain name, so just take note of the path to the inst-sources on any server and install away!

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RE[2]: FTP install
by Flatline on Thu 11th May 2006 16:32 UTC in reply to "RE: FTP install"
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2006-03-06

You can grab the 35Mb mini-ISO for network installs from here (or any of the other mirrors): http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/iso/SUSE-Li...

Actually, it still does ask for the IP address (my one gripe with the network install under SUSE). The easiest way to find it is to use Firefox with this extension and visit a (working) mirror. https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/590/

A warning, though...FTP installs are going to most likely be a bit rough for the next several days...the mirrors have a tendency to get absolutely slammed. For all the guys who are going to get it via torrent...please keep seeding if you can so that others can get a decent download speed.

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RE[2]: FTP install
by alime on Thu 11th May 2006 18:14 UTC in reply to "FTP install"
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2005-07-06

I had to figure that out to, this is where i got help.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=436186
"A"

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Been using it since tuesday!!
by Knuckles on Thu 11th May 2006 16:12 UTC
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I was able to get it on tuesday on a japanese mirror, and I've been using it since.

First impressions:
- New look very polished and professional
- XFS was disabled in the beta, but it's back now working fine (using it!)
- The package management is working fine, altough the updater still has a few bugs (it still suggests me the fetch-ms-tt fonts although I've already downloaded it)
- They fixed the "bug" where gnome apps using tray on kde would get a blank background, so no more strange apps in your tray.
- Kerry + beagle working out of the box and no problems @ all
- Xgl is working, altough compiz seems to have a bug that programs don't show up on kde's taskbar, should be solved soon too! Besides that hoowoo Xgl eyecandy *_*

Overall it's a great release (10.0 wasn't all that good IMHO). I've been using SuSE since 9.1, and I think that honestly SuSE are the only ones that know how to properly tune and ship Kde =)

No DVD iso's for now, they promise them for next thursday 18.

Some more info for the curious:
kernel 2.6.16.13; gcc 4.1.0; Xorg 6.9; firefox 1.5.0.3; kde 3.5.1

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Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!

"I was able to get it on tuesday on a japanese mirror, and I've been using it since."

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Funny... On monday and tuesday, I was checking during serveral hours the US and european mirrors (specially the German ones) to try to get it in advance! Didn't think about the japanesse ones ...

Torrenting here already!!!

This has made my day (my girl has just left now, and thinks I am grinning the whole day, today, because of her... Well, she's lovely too)!!!

This one is going to be the OS that will start biting hard to Windows. It has everything it needs for: Solid, Polished, Nice, Eye Candy, Huge Hardware detection, Plenty of already mature and useful Applications, and a big company backing it...

This will be a giant step in the Linux-Libre-OpenSource movement! The following next big step will be the Big release of Ubuntu. And probably, later, the next PCLinuxOS and Mepis will shake the pillars of propietary Software too, making Linux really affordable for the average PC user!

(The Hackers don't get sad... You still have Linux from Scracth, Gentoo, and now even DBS (Debian from Scrath)and the BSDs to play with... ;) )

The times, they are a changing...!

!!!

Edited 2006-05-11 18:53

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hyper Member since:
2005-06-29

This will be a giant step in the Linux-Libre-OpenSource movement! The following next big step will be the Big release of Ubuntu. And probably, later, the next PCLinuxOS and Mepis will shake the pillars of propietary Software too, making Linux really affordable for the average PC user!

Dreamin' sweet dreams, eh?

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Status of Wireless Drivers?
by enloop on Thu 11th May 2006 16:13 UTC
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2005-11-13

Anyone know the specific wifi cards 10.1 knows about? The OpenSUSE wiki wireless HCL has been running big question marks in the 10.1 column. (The wiki is down now due to the all the downloading.)

Are non-FOSS drivers included in the Extras CD? In particular, the Atheros driver was pulled from the betas because it wouldn't work with SMP kernels. What happened with that?

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v RE: Status of Wireless Drivers?
by segedunum on Thu 11th May 2006 19:27 UTC in reply to "Status of Wireless Drivers?"
RE[2]: Status of Wireless Drivers?
by twenex on Thu 11th May 2006 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Status of Wireless Drivers?"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Odd. The Atheros drivers work fine for me in 10.0

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Oh, that's true. However, (perhaps thru misconfiguration) there were a lot of times when it didn't work for me in XP, which i was using until I found a linux distro that worked with this card. So i never noticed! seems to be fixed now though.

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I tried downloading the new proggies via YaST last night. It stopped partway through and couldn't be resurrected, though when I rebooted the system came back up fine.

However, it appears that the atheros driver, which DID work for me in 10.0, DOESN'T work in .1. Argh!

I'll see what happens when I've updated via DVD.

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LOL:
by twenex on Thu 11th May 2006 16:34 UTC
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2006-04-21

The "download" link for the "not yet released" LiveDVD is already active!

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RE: LOL:
by raver31 on Thu 11th May 2006 18:23 UTC in reply to "LOL:"
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2005-07-06

that is for 10.0

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Online upgrade
by twenex on Thu 11th May 2006 16:42 UTC
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2006-04-21

Is there (or is there planned to be) any way to upgrade online, i.e. without rebooting, inserting install media, and waiting for the system to be replaced, (a la Gentoo)?

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RE: Online upgrade
by Flatline on Thu 11th May 2006 16:49 UTC in reply to "Online upgrade"
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2006-03-06

I would think you could just add an FTP installation source to YaST, display all the packages as a list, and right-click and tell it to upgrade all packages in the list if there is a new version available.

I think a "clean upgrade" (wow, I can't believe I just actually typed that phrase) would be less risky, though, and you would have to reboot afterwards anyway because of the kernel upgrade.

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RE[2]: Online upgrade
by twenex on Thu 11th May 2006 17:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Online upgrade"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Hmm, point. Thanks.

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Finally
by Bajan on Thu 11th May 2006 16:50 UTC
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2006-01-05

Been waiting on this for a long time.Glad it finally arrived.I have a week to backup my files because I want the DVD install media.

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CD -> DVD
by Ultimatebadass on Thu 11th May 2006 16:51 UTC
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2006-01-08

Is it possible to convert those CD images to one DVD image? I thought I saw a script to do that on OpenSuse site somwhere - right now nothing works there except the download...

It would be much better if they released the dvd version first, but anyway I'm really glad it's finally here :-)

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RE: CD -> DVD
by suser on Thu 11th May 2006 17:15 UTC in reply to "CD -> DVD"
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RE[2]: CD -> DVD
by Ultimatebadass on Thu 11th May 2006 18:17 UTC in reply to "RE: CD -> DVD"
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2006-01-08

Thanks for the link!

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Live DVD
by colinisation on Thu 11th May 2006 17:08 UTC
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2006-01-08

Will a live DVD version be available, and if so how soon ?

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Fight!
by transami on Thu 11th May 2006 17:26 UTC
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2006-02-28

Looking foward to a Head2Head comparison when the new UBUNTU is finally released. Will I make the switch to SUSE?

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So far so good...
by madcrow on Thu 11th May 2006 17:54 UTC
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2006-03-13

Looks like they've seperated the 32-bit version from the 64-bit version. Maybe that means they'll have the full compliment of packages on the CD install this time rather than screwing us non-DVD users with dialup connections who simply couldn't get lots of the pacakges theoretically included in 10.0. Seeing as SuSE's main advantage over things like Ubuntu is that you get everything (except a working media player) on disk, I certainly hope this will be the case.

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Gonna have to give this a try
by OMRebel on Thu 11th May 2006 18:06 UTC
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2005-11-14

I wasn't thrilled with 10.0. Looking forward to throwing this on my test machine and seeing how it performs.

On a side note, does anyone know when SUSE Enterprise Desktop 10.0 supposed to be released? I've been wanting to get my hands on that for awhile now.

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RE: Gonna have to give this a try
by twenex on Thu 11th May 2006 18:13 UTC in reply to "Gonna have to give this a try"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

What displeased you about 10? I'm very pleased with it, and it's my first SuSE install. I'm hooked!

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OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

Speed was my issue with it. It just wasn't as snappy on my machine as past versions of SuSE were. I've migrated my desktop over to Ubuntu Breezy for now, but I've been missing SuSE, and I'm hoping this version will show the performance that I am expecting from it. I haven't tried any of the Betas out, as I've just been waiting for the final release.

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Ah, I see. Well, I've nothing to compare it with, really. I've tried installing it via FTP before, but never really had any joy. This time I used the EvalDVD.

YaST is pretty slow, but I had the impression that was always true.

It would be nice to see a Gentoo-based distro with YaST included.

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RE: Gonna have to give this a try
by coburg on Thu 11th May 2006 23:59 UTC in reply to "Gonna have to give this a try"
coburg Member since:
2006-05-11

I have worked with the SuSE Novell team for the last few weeks and learned the SLED will officially be released in July. It is based on the 10.1 code and is going to include all of the features that are in 10.1 just more stablized for the enterprise...

Hope that helps

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OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

Awesome. I appreciate your reply. I knew it would be sometime this summer, but didnt' know if it was gonna be "late summer". I'll end up buying SLED.

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check this downloadspeed!
by evilfucktard on Thu 11th May 2006 18:13 UTC
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2006-05-11

where do these people get these lines from?


me want some speedy downloads toooooooooo

http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=185506&cid=15310494

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Distribution choices...?
by kcy29581 on Thu 11th May 2006 18:35 UTC
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2006-05-11

On the openSUSE 10.1 download pages, there are two entries under the Distribution column, both named SUSE Linux...

(Address: http://download.opensuse.org/index.html)

I take it one has commercial, non-OSS packages, whereas the other has openSUSE. (now why is there a Development Status for one of them as well, same version as the released one...?)

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Missing Synaptic...
by Anonymous Penguin on Thu 11th May 2006 21:12 UTC
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2005-07-06

I miss synaptic. The only other alternatives are "apt-cache search" and smart-gui. Neither compare with the ease of use of synaptic, IMO.

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Xgl is big
by brother bloat on Thu 11th May 2006 21:30 UTC
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2005-07-06

Xgl/Compiz may be key to the widespread adoption of this release. Because Ubuntu's soon-to-be-out next realease (i.e. Dapper Drake) does not include Xgl by default (although it is available via synaptic), I wonder if people will start gravitating toward Suse in search of nifty eye-candy (especially seeing as SuSe is currently hot on the heals of Ubuntu according to the counter at http://www.distrowatch.com/ (to the extent that it can be trusted)...

Current operating systems (OSX, Windows, Linux) seem to be focusing on (debatably useful) eye-candy. OSX has included some pretty sweet stuff for a while, and one of the main focus points for Windows Vista seems to be the new Aero UI. Xgl is the open source community's answer to all this (of course, Xgl ended up beating Aero to the punch).

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RE: Xgl is big
by Worldbuilder on Fri 12th May 2006 01:14 UTC in reply to "Xgl is big"
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2006-04-12

are they any good setup guides/rpms to get xgl working on fedora 5?

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Intel chipsets
by mmebane on Thu 11th May 2006 21:58 UTC
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2005-07-06

Did they properly fix the problem with Intel video chipsets which cropped during the RCs?
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=168618

I've got an i915, and having unaccelerated video would suck.

Edited 2006-05-11 22:00

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Commercial?
by DrillSgt on Thu 11th May 2006 22:12 UTC
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2005-12-02

Will there be a commercial retail box from Novell, or only this release with OSS only?

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RE: Commercial?
by anandrajan on Fri 12th May 2006 12:56 UTC in reply to "Commercial?"
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2006-05-12
RE[2]: Commercial?
by OMRebel on Fri 12th May 2006 13:55 UTC in reply to "Commercial?"
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2005-11-14

Does the Commericial version include DVD codecs, mp3 codecs, etc..?? I know it's pretty easy to get it setup, but was wanting to do it legally here in the US.

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RE[3]: Commercial?
by anandrajan on Fri 12th May 2006 14:20 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Commercial?"
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2006-05-12

Does the Commericial version include DVD codecs, mp3 codecs, etc..?? I know it's pretty easy to get it setup, but was wanting to do it legally here in the US.

I don't know since I don't yet have the commercial version. However, the commercial version of SUSE 10 did not have legal mp3 playback and libdvdcss. The main advantage of getting the commercial version is that it has a dual layer DVD with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions of SUSE 10.1. I need this since we have 32 bit and 64 bit machines running SUSE.

Anand

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RE[4]: Commercial?
by OMRebel on Fri 12th May 2006 14:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Commercial?"
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2005-11-14

I just shot an email to Novell's pre-sales team asking them if it would support those features legally. I also asked them if it'll have the ability to use the redesigned menu that is in the Enterprise edition that hasn't been released yet. That menu looks nice!

The main thing is if I shell out money for a product, I'd want to be able to legally have the license to play DVD's and mp3's. All of my machines are 32 bit, so the dual layer DVD really doesn't concern me too much at the moment.

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RE[4]: Commercial?
by DrillSgt on Fri 12th May 2006 16:40 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Commercial?"
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2005-12-02

"I don't know since I don't yet have the commercial version. However, the commercial version of SUSE 10 did not have legal mp3 playback and libdvdcss."

Actually SUSE 10 does have mp3 support, or mine does anyway. You had to use RealPlayer or Banshee in order to play mp3's though, which I found out the hard way. So yes, it did have the support, but not across the board for all media players. I agree they need to start including legal DVD playback. Makes me wonder what the holdup is.

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XFCE on CD's?
by sb56637 on Thu 11th May 2006 22:20 UTC
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2006-05-11

Hi, is XFCE available on any of the six CD's for SUSE 10.1?

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i love SuSE
by poser on Thu 11th May 2006 22:22 UTC
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2006-02-15

The only thing I don't like is teh fact that soem packages are outdated even the day the new version is released. On the other hand that means that they make sure that all packages are Ok before they ship them

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Yast Speed
by Don T. Bothers on Thu 11th May 2006 23:00 UTC
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2006-03-15

Is Yast faster in this release?

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v Why dont they
by ChrisA on Thu 11th May 2006 23:31 UTC
RE: Why dont they
by eMagius on Fri 12th May 2006 02:38 UTC in reply to "Why dont they"
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2005-07-06

Suse's been around for years, and every year people say just that. Hasn't happened yet, though.

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i386 Firefox on x64
by dishkuvek on Fri 12th May 2006 00:53 UTC
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2005-12-02

Does anyone know if 10.1 x64 supplies a i386/i686 Firefox so flash can be used?

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RE: i386 Firefox on x64
by suser on Fri 12th May 2006 04:14 UTC in reply to "i386 Firefox on x64"
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2005-08-04

Yes.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); fi-FI; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060425 SUSE/1.5.0.3-7 Firefox/1.5.0.3

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sorry
by tilde on Fri 12th May 2006 01:01 UTC
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2005-11-15

no buy .-)

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Cd -> DVD for Windows
by wingnut2292 on Fri 12th May 2006 02:47 UTC
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2006-05-12

Is there anyway to merge the .iso files into one dvd? i heard of a trick w/ the old DOS copy command using a switch ("-c" ibelieve, but don't remember now). But, while all the CD's were burned to the DVD, yast only saw the DVD as disk one. Is there a way to merge the CDs into a DVD in windows and works with yast?

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SUSE, Fedora...OK, Ubuntu? NO
by rx182 on Fri 12th May 2006 03:15 UTC
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2005-07-08

Nice day for SUSE users!

I'm pleased to see that SUSE keeps getting better. SUSE if definately the most user-friendly distribution out there. Hardware detection is excellent and the whole distribution is extremely polished.

Thus said, I can't wait to see if the Fedora team will manage to do better. It's not going to be easy ;)

However, unlike most of you, I don't even bother about Ubuntu. Ubuntu, since its beginning, never impressed me. There's simply no integration in Ubuntu. It's just a bundle of bleeding edge debian packages, nothing more than that.

My 0,02$ ;)

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RE: SUSE, Fedora...OK, Ubuntu? NO
by leech on Fri 12th May 2006 14:18 UTC in reply to "SUSE, Fedora...OK, Ubuntu? NO"
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2006-01-10

I'm not quite sure exactly what you mean by integration, but everything feels very integrated to me on my Dapper Drake install.

For instance, to me it feels more integrated due to it fitting on one CD, has no double-usage programs and is just a tighter desktop than either Fedora or Suse. Suse and Fedora both have a bit better bootloader/grub screen by default than Ubuntu, but overall I think Ubuntu is much slicker and a much quicker install.

Plus I can't stand how Suse screws with the menus.

And why X.org 6.9 and Gnome 2.12? Come on, Ubuntu has had 7.0 and 2.14 for quite some time now.

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hoorah for SUSE
by REMF on Fri 12th May 2006 07:54 UTC
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2006-02-05

an excellent release by all accounts.

i will remain a happy SUSE user as long as they continue to release a first class KDE desktop.

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Computer menu
by JCooper on Fri 12th May 2006 09:07 UTC
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2005-07-06

I was hoping Novell would include the funky menu from the SLED demos that shows a very nice panel with search and frequently used apps.

I'm guessing this won't be set free until the official release of SLED?

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Gnome 2.12 only :(
by rockmen1 on Fri 12th May 2006 13:36 UTC
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GNOME has been improved greatly since 2.14, the performance gap between 2.12 and 2.14 is some how significant.

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RE: Gnome 2.12 only :(
by netpython on Fri 12th May 2006 16:33 UTC in reply to "Gnome 2.12 only :("
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2005-07-06

Maybe they couldn't get 2.14 packaged on time.They only thing i miss in a otherwise quite nice release.

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RE[2]: Gonna have to give this a try
by Zlogic on Fri 12th May 2006 14:55 UTC
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2005-07-06

Suse Linux 10.0 had a bug in the kernel that made USB mass storage drives REALLY slow and some people reported that they even got their flash memory killed because SUSE synced the FAT or something like that after writing every byte or every block - fixed by a full kernel update and that means that the kernel sources and all stuff depending on it also needs to be updated.
Suse 10.0 also doesn't support my Audigy SE soundcard because of an older version of alsa-lib kernel modules (to use my soundcard I have to use the newest beta of Kubuntu); the 10.1 version seems compatible.
Also, Kopete in KDE 3.4 (Suse 10.0) doesn't support Cyrillic characters when sending or receiving ICQ messages.
Hope these bugs from 10.0 are fixed - I'm getting my copy of 10.1 tomorrow.

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RE: SUSE, Fedora...OK, Ubuntu? NO
by Tuishimi on Fri 12th May 2006 15:43 UTC
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You make it sound like something is wrong with Debian. Debian is probably my favorite linux - my favorite flavor of that is Ubuntu. What do you mean by "there's simply no integration in Ubuntu?"

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SuSE 10.1, mp3 and DVDs
by WereCatf on Fri 12th May 2006 17:02 UTC
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2006-02-15

I used SuSE around version 8 (or was it 7? Can't remember), and I kinda liked it, but then I switched over to Gentoo. But now I'm again willing to try SuSE, I just have to ask: what if I want to play DVDs and MP3s in SuSE 10.1? Would I need to compile everything myself, or would there be just some easy .rpm files available?

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RE: SuSE 10.1, mp3 and DVDs
by OMRebel on Fri 12th May 2006 17:21 UTC in reply to "SuSE 10.1, mp3 and DVDs"
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2005-11-14

There's some RPM's that you can install to play DVD's and MP3's. Just do a search on a forum. It's pretty simple to get it going. I'm just wanting them to start including a LEGAL license for DVD playback. I don't understand why they won't include the license in the cost for the commercial box set.

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