Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Sep 2006 15:50 UTC, submitted by Ish Pfierman
Intel Intel's planning its own version of 'Quadrophenia' for this week's Intel Developer Forum. It has already revealed the code names for the server and desktop versions of those chips: Clovertown and Kentsfield. Those models will be constructed by combining Intel's two newest dual-core processors in those categories in a multichip package. Intel also announced low-end Xeons.
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Replace a dual core with a quad core?
by atici on Tue 26th Sep 2006 17:22 UTC
atici
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2005-07-06

Since the server quad cores will be Socket 771 based, I am wondering if one could replace a dual core 51XX processor with an upcoming quad core one (possibly after a BIOS update on a Intel 5000X chipset mobo). Anyone have an idea?

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Ravyne Member since:
2006-01-08

You may not even need to update the BIOS. I believe it was Tom's (or Anand maybe) who did an article where they popped a pair of Quad-core samples into a Mac Pro. OS X recognized and used all 8 cores.

They didn't do anything special with the BIOS (or EFF in this case) so they're either a drop-in solution or Apple had already included support in their firmware.

At any rate, it seems that 4 (and more) core CPUs are central to Intel's plans, so it wouldn't supprise me that the chips are at least pin-compatible, making platform support a matter of a simple BIOS extension at most.

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Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

>> You may not even need to update the BIOS. I believe it was Tom's (or Anand maybe) who did an article where they popped a pair of Quad-core samples into a Mac Pro. OS X recognized and used all 8 cores.


When does Apple plan to start shipping this as a standard configuration?

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Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

"When does Apple plan to start shipping this as a standard configuration?"


hang on... I have a crystal ball here somewhere....

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Quad-Core Benchmarks
by twickline on Tue 26th Sep 2006 18:11 UTC
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2005-12-31

The folks over at tomshardware have more info on the quad core chips and benchmarks as well.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/

Quad-Core running a beta 3DMark 07 ?
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34612

Intel IDF keynote with Quad-Core info :
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34641

Edited 2006-09-26 18:27

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PowerPC and Apple
by Earl Colby pottinger on Tue 26th Sep 2006 20:01 UTC
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2005-07-06

It always seemed strange to me that Apple never put out real pressure to get a dual/quad processor chip developed years ago for thier machines.

Many of the jobs Macs tend to be used for like Graphics and Signal Processing could have benifited from a quad-CPU machine ten years ago.

Considering Be got a dual PowerPC setup running and shipped almost fifteen years ago, Apple threw away a good chance to increase thier market share/sales years earlier than they did.

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RE: PowerPC and Apple
by Wes Felter on Tue 26th Sep 2006 21:53 UTC in reply to "PowerPC and Apple"
Wes Felter Member since:
2005-11-15

Daystar shipped a quad 604 Mac years ago. Apple could have built quad G4 Macs, but the FSB probably would have limited performance. As for quad-core, it has only just now become economically feasible.

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Front Side Bus is still a bottleneck
by phoenix on Wed 27th Sep 2006 01:07 UTC
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2005-07-11

Until Intel comes up with a better system than the front-side bus for accessing memory, their dual and quad-core offering will not be worth looking at, especially in the server market.

Their dual-core offering aren't too bad, and are currently the best laptop and desktop chips (Core2). But put more than 4 cores or 4 CPUs into a system, and they starve. Intel needs to come up with a HyperTransport-like system (or just license HT like they should have 5 years ago).

Until CSI (Common Systems Interconnect, I believe) hits the x86 server market, there's no point in looking at Intel solutions. AMD is where it is at in the server market, especially when you get more than 4 cores or 2 sockets on a motherboard.

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