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SUSE had 1 CD install since a long time.
Please check
http://en.opensuse.org/1_CD_install and
http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER
However, they were varient of SUSE and not the mainstream SUSE release.
This will be the first time they will promote the single CD install as part of mainstream SUSE release.

Over the time we have seen single CD distro gainig on popularity. For instance Ubuntu nad PCLinuxOS are both single CD and are at the top spots on Distrowatch.
Lets welcome SUSE to the group.

Edited 2007-06-16 01:46

Hurray! 1CD at last, love the distro but the media's too big for most computer, since they only have CD-ROMs/RWs.

SuSE isn't really designed for an obsolete computer. It's large, it's feature packed, and it's designed to run on modern computers.

DVD-RW drives can be bought for under $40 USD, and DVD-ROM for less than $20, so as far as I'm concerned, SuSE has been a single disk install for a long time.

Now if they'd just fix Evolution under KDE. *sigh*

---------Now if they'd just fix Evolution under KDE. *sigh*----------

Agreed. I think they should port Evo to QT.(which I know is a little further than you were thinking, this is just wishful thinking on my part)

I'd also like to see Firefox gain QT support. QTFox = :-)

"I'd also like to see Firefox gain QT support. QTFox = :-)"

That's actually been started a couple of times, but nothing ever came of the attempts.

Most recent attempt: http://dot.kde.org/1094924433/

AFAIK, this eventually broke down due to political issues between the KDE and Mozilla devs, but I'm sure there are things I don't know about.

Agreed. I think they should port Evo to QT.(which I know is a little further than you were thinking, this is just wishful thinking on my part)

One of the nicer things about SuSE is it makes an effort with the default themes to keep gtk/qt consistent.

The biggest problem I have with Evolution under KDE is the keyring issue-- They expect you to be running gnome-keyring, and all of their fallbacks FAIL.

Anyone know if Portland is trying to address kde/gnome keyring issues?

yeah, all their alphas have the same problems each release.

Please explain how they are "destroying" Linux. they adhere to the license... And do more than most when it comes to software for linux.... Please explain the destruction, without using FSF talking points (which are ambiguous and misleading at best).

Well if someone says you are using a product that violates some patents but if you sign some sort of confenant you are safe from whatever legal actions that might follow.

Now especially while the evidence, which patents are being violated by exactly what line of code, is being refused to bring into the spotlight.

That makes us all look rather stupid now does it?
And i haven't even touched the possible implications.

You should consider it a continuance of the idemnity that Novell offered already. The deal as I am aware still does not stop MS from sueing Novell or vice versa. Only stops MS from suing you if you are a Novell customer.... Which is how it was when they offered indemnity. They wont defend you if you are using Ubuntu... Only SUSE. Same goes for Redhat, they extend indemnity if you are using another linux distro... only redhat.

If microsoft was truly offering us something then wouldnt they simply describe the patents and allow us to pay for those that we want and to remove the ones that were accidents or that we do not feel the need to pay for? That would be a fair patent deal IMO and show they were serious about competing on a fair level.

Honestly, does anyone think it is about something as simple as money. Sure they want linux to become expensive so that it puts them on more of a level playing field but overall that is a small thing. You cannot destroy linux with money. They want to stop it at 2% and the best way to do that is to break what makes it powerful and effective. What makes linux powerful and effective? one word - sharing. Sharing of ALL changes, sharing of ALL code, sharing of the OS with others. How do you break sharing? You simply make it unable to be shared. Now they have it....

You seem to forget, more money goes to Novell than to MS....
They arent offering "you" anything. It's no lawsuits against Novells customers, you are out of the loop. It didnt matter anyway, they offered indemnity to their users. Now they would only have to defend themselves, while you are still protected.

Also more money goes to Novell than to MS. Directory services were Novells bread and butter... Im thinking it was more about that then anything else.

No linux distributor can stop the sharing of Linux like that... Its not Novells/redhats/mandrivas/ubuntus to do like that... It would be Mr. Torvalds call with that. So that is a moot point in my opinion.

Actually... I can go to walmart and/or order one from Dell...

"Please explain how they are "destroying" Linux. they adhere to the license"

It's perfectly possible to "destroy" Linux while not breaking the license.
Not saying the mentioned companies are destroying it (I don't use Linux so I have no opinion on the matter) but one has nothing to do with the other.

You people are so petty in your outlook. Your total hate of microsoft clouds all of your judgement. That is why none of you will ever amount to anything in the world of developing software or business. Pragmatism is a word that you guys never wll be ale to spell, or comprehend.
You, small little men, always will be in your little cubicle, bitching!

And the world will continue growing, Linux will get bigger on the desktop and the lot of you will be bitching about something that is beyong your comprehension becausew of your small minds.

Better a small mind than a big asshole....

I have no hate of microsoft at all. They are not even on my radar unless they move against something that IS on my radar and I am afraid that is what they have done. They moved in on my turf....

"You people are so petty in your outlook. Your total hate of microsoft clouds all of your judgement. That is why none of you will ever amount to anything in the world of developing software or business. Pragmatism is a word that you guys never wll be ale to spell, or comprehend.
You, small little men, always will be in your little cubicle, bitching!

And the world will continue growing, Linux will get bigger on the desktop and the lot of you will be bitching about something that is beyond your comprehension becausew of your small minds."

The irony of not being able to spell Pragmatism, and yet you spell "judgement"; "wll"; "becausew".

I only really point it out because your clearly not using The latest firefox. Why don't you install linux...even if it is OpenSUSE and use the latest firefox rather than IE.

You think Linux distros making deals with a vile software dictatorship because of dubious patent threats is good?

Then stop using KDE/GNOME, the Linux kernel, OOo and ALSA as well.

"Then stop using KDE/GNOME, the Linux kernel, OOo and ALSA as well."

When GPL 3 is finished, it should be fun watching the traitorous distros try to use the software you listed.

Of course I draw it where it is convenient for me. I draw the line AT the taint, projects outside of it do not worry me much. Simple and convenient.

Can't wait until YasT is actually a solid Package Management Tool..

Keep waiting. YaST is a setup tool, not a package tool (hence the name).

Granted, it interfaces to zypper quite nicely (or zmd, although the database in zmd is completely out of control), but it's primary function is as a control center, not a package management system.

And zypper isn't that bad, actually. I'd like a bit more functionality, but it's getting there.

Looks like old screen shots... Clealy the new cool stuff from SLED SP1 are not in there... (logout screens, fast user switching, etc...)I wonder if they are going to merge all that stuff in to the SUSE version?

you won't be missed.

Well, one thing Suse/Novell do seem to be missing is customers.

Please read: http://opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS

Will people ever shut up about the Novell boycotts? I mean, come on... seriously... can we, the Linux users, please make our own decisions for a change without having to hear all the Microsoft haters shoot down everything that Microsoft touches with their deal? Personally, I think that OpenSUSE is a damn good distro, like it or not, whether or not their owner is greedy (it's a company--what do you expect?), selfish (compare to the other two companies who made the deal...), and/or badly managed.

Sure, I wasn't too thrilled about the deal, but a good distro's a good distro, and OpenSUSE continues to get better, while Novell seems to be contributing a lot more than some of the truly greedy/selfish companies (ie... Linspire, and especially Xandros). So far, nothing truly bad has come out of it, and until something does, I will remain neutral about it.

And I might as well add that I don't actually run SUSE myself, although the reason has nothing to do with their deal; it's a damn good distro, but I prefer the lightweight, simple, *fast* Zenwalk (or other Slack deratives). However, it's definitely one of the first distros I would recommend to new Linux users, and if learning Linux wasn't one of the things I'm interested in, it would likely be one of my top distros.

[q]I never managed to install (open)suse.....
Off course, I never had the manual with me, but when I'm sitting behind the single computer in my house and the installer asks me to type the ip address of a ftp server from where I want to download the sources.....

This is the 21th first century man....even OpenBSD lets me SELECT a installation location from a list....

So, I would love to install (open)suse, but never managed, so I just quit and installed Ubuntu or Pclinuxos.

Must say, I'm not too comfortable with this distro and their intimacy wth Microsoft as well [q]

Lol, they're still doing that?! OMG, I remember about 10 years ago when Suse wasn't distributing iso images, you had to buy it, or you could install it from via ftp.
I was a determined little bugger back then and when I failed to install via ftp, I downloaded the entire mirror, about 3Gb (had a fast ADSL back then), to my computer and installed localy from hard disk.
They made it so hard to install Suse without paying for it that for a newbie linux user wannabe it was just about impossible to install.
They were a crappy company back then and they are crap now under Novell. Some people just don't change.
AVOID SUSE AT ALL COST!!!

They don't have anything to do with the deal, but they are part of the taint... Novells deal extends to opensuse, so that makes opensuse a part of it IMO.

A nice clean fork of the code the day before the deal was signed is what should occur IMO.

They don't have anything to do with the deal, but they are part of the taint... Novells deal extends to opensuse, so that makes opensuse a part of it IMO.

Actually, openSuSE users aren't protected if I recall, because the agreement only extends to people who purchased the enterprise version from Novell.

If the FSF really wanted to undermine this deal, they'd lead a nation-wide effort to completely destroy software patents. I'm willing to bet Novell, IBM and even Microsoft would get on board, because they're all threatened-- Microsoft more than most.

who, where?

You obviously haven't been following Novell very well over the years.

I use suse on a work computer that must be able to communicate in a Microsoft world, if it couldn't do that then it would go in the bin with all other useless puritanical software.

Then use Open Office's support for the binary MS Office format, which is far, far more complete and will be for years and get your documents into something that can be reliably read into the future in the meantime.

Getting excited about OOXML support is really quite pointless, because there isn't much support there at all. If you want to use Microsoft formats, your best bet is to go and use Microsoft software.