Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 00:03 UTC, submitted by DanPhilpott
Windows A Community Technology Preview of Microsoft's PowerShell has been announced. PowerShell is a re-imagining of the command line interface in a fully object oriented environment. Run libraries like executables, cryptographically sign your scripts, extend your functions through full .NET integration.
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WTF?
by eantoranz on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 02:29 UTC
eantoranz
Member since:
2005-12-18

Microsoft talking about "community"? That's something I bet I won't hear from Steve-o. He starts with the C... and finishes with ...ustomers.

Edited 2007-11-03 02:40

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RE: WTF?
by DanPhilpott on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 03:07 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
DanPhilpott Member since:
2006-02-27

The Community in question is people who use PowerShell and are willing to run a wildly pre-release version of v2. The CTP is a pre-alpha type release where interested parties can test it out and give feedback before the software features included are essentially finalized and they start the bug hunt which is beta testing. I can hardly wait to get my hot little hands on it.

Incidentally the last line in that brief was meant as a description of what was already in version 1 of PowerShell. Dunno much about the new features contemplated for v2 beyond built in remoting.

Probably beside the point to mention all this as it doesn't really continue with the '1337 h4xx0rz MS bashing. Don't mind me, I'll just chuckle knowingly on this side of the keyboard.

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RE: WTF?
by dagw on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 13:26 UTC in reply to "WTF?"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Smart people, like Balmer and most of the execs at MS, realize that by calling your customers your "community" makes your customers feel better about being customers.

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RE[2]: WTF?
by _mikk on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 18:41 UTC in reply to "RE: WTF?"
_mikk Member since:
2005-10-19

They also realize that developers and customers ARE their community without which they can't prosper.

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There are too many ells in this shelll
by Luminair on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 03:26 UTC
Luminair
Member since:
2007-03-30

There are too many "l"s in that PowerShelll

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rainman Member since:
2007-05-22

I guess they forgot to use spelllcheck.

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umm
by google_ninja on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 03:52 UTC
google_ninja
Member since:
2006-02-05

does anyone know what exactly is new in 2.0?

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RE: umm
by Rugxulo on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 07:36 UTC in reply to "umm"
Rugxulo Member since:
2007-10-09

robogoto? ;-)

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Speed
by fridder on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 04:32 UTC
fridder
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2007-11-03

Dear lord I hope it is faster. Last time I tried it, it was 3-4x slower at doing a simple dir than cmd

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RE: Speed
by thebackwash on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 04:36 UTC in reply to "Speed"
thebackwash Member since:
2005-07-06

ok, i was going to be snarky, but maybe i should ask instead: how long does it take to run dir?

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RE[2]: Speed
by Spellcheck on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 05:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Speed"
Spellcheck Member since:
2007-01-20

I can't find a directory, among my pretty big ones, where there is any perceivable delay at all from hitting enter and the output scrolling past. This is probably because (a) "dir" on Windows' cmd.exe is a built-in command, so it doesn't have to search the path for it or do any of that executable overhead; and (b) I was going to say it displays as it reads from disk, but it's not noticeably slower where I'm testing with /ON (which indicates sorting by name), so I guess it's mostly the overhead thing.

Cygwin ls on the same machine under the same conditions can vary wildly in speed, probably because of executable caching; but if you don't sneak up on it, and don't ask for full file attributes, it appears to be just as fast (from either cmd.exe or, for example, zsh in puttycyg)

Edited 2007-11-03 05:31

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RE[3]: Speed
by Weeman on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Speed"
Weeman Member since:
2006-03-20

This is probably because (a) "dir" on Windows' cmd.exe is a built-in command, so it doesn't have to search the path for it or do any of that executable overhead

Cmdlets in PowerShell are in memory pieces of code. Once PowerShell's started, it doesn't need to look for it anywhere. What's creating the huge delays is probably that the respective Cmdlet creates a list of files and then creates a FileInfo object for each filename.

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re:CTP
by spikeb on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 09:42 UTC
spikeb
Member since:
2006-01-18

heh, when i read that, i experienced a civilization flashback, and immediately thought it stood for "call to power"

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RE: re:CTP
by Manuel FLURY on Mon 12th Nov 2007 22:35 UTC in reply to "re:CTP"
Manuel FLURY Member since:
2005-07-05

Call To Power

Yeeah Babe :-P

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Aaarrgghh!
by StychoKiller on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 09:51 UTC
StychoKiller
Member since:
2005-09-20

Ya gotta love Microsoft Marketing's re-grammaring
of the English language. Just what the heck is re-imagining of the command line interface???

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RE: Aaarrgghh!
by Nelson on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 10:54 UTC in reply to "Aaarrgghh!"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

To imagine again, according to the dictionary.

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Almost
by vermaden on Sat 3rd Nov 2007 16:01 UTC
vermaden
Member since:
2006-11-18

PowerShell, almost like ZSH, almost makes big diffrence.

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Interesting concept....
by rdean400 on Mon 5th Nov 2007 03:08 UTC
rdean400
Member since:
2006-10-18

Sounds kind of like BeanShell meets Bash for .Net.

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editing
by dar512 on Mon 5th Nov 2007 22:58 UTC
dar512
Member since:
2007-11-05

I bet it still sucks at command-line editing.

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