Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 7th Mar 2009 20:08 UTC
Apple Ever since Apple launched the App Store for iPhone owners, the company has seen some serious criticism regarding its willy-nilly admittance policy. Several popular applications were not allowed into the App Store, forcing the developers of those applications to offer their work only to owners of jailbroken iPhones. From now on, that will be a whole lot easier: the first unauthorised iPhone application store is about to open up shop.
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Time to get out the popcorn
by JonathanBThompson on Sat 7th Mar 2009 21:46 UTC
JonathanBThompson
Member since:
2006-05-26

I expect this will be a tech drama with at least as much techie interest as Psystar ;)

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RE: Time to get out the popcorn
by alcibiades on Sun 8th Mar 2009 07:45 UTC in reply to "Time to get out the popcorn"
alcibiades Member since:
2005-10-12

Not just Psystar is it? Its also efi-x and PearC, not to mention the hackintosh forums, and its also jailbreaking the iPod. The locked app store is legally different, but its the same basic approach in terms of business model: its the lock-in.

Stop the OS buyer from using the 'wrong' hardware, stop the iPod user managing their database from the 'wrong' OS (Linux), stop them buying their tunes using the 'wrong' software (anything but iTunes), stop them for as long as you can playing their bought tunes on the 'wrong' kind of player. Stop them putting their iPhone on the 'wrong' networks, stop them getting applications from the 'wrong' place (anywhere but the app store), stop people putting the 'wrong' applications into the app store for purchase....

The issue is, as a company, your time and energy are limited. The amount of communication you can do with your customers is limited.

How much of that time and energy do you want to spend stopping them from doing what they want to do, suing them, trying to control them? How much of it do you want to spend trying to meet their needs and enable them to do what they want to do?

After you get through answering the question, if you are Apple, you will come up with the answer that as a company you want to spend as much time and energy as it takes to keep on with the lock-in business model. Then ask yourself a simple question. Why?

And as a customer ask yourself the equivalent simple question: why do I put up with this?

Reply Score: 7

flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

I for one don't put up with it. The only thing Apple that I 'own' is the Quicktime player, and I only do that because I 'have' to.

If someone can show me an alternative that plays all the current movie trailers, etc then I'll dump Apple in a heartbeat.

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Trenien Member since:
2007-10-11

Can't VLC read pretty everything quicktime does?

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flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

I just removed Quicktime and then installed VLC and just as when I tried it ages ago, it doesn't automatically bring up the ability to play the movies, like it does when Quicktime is installed.

If anyone can tell me how I can do this, then I wont reinstall Quicktime.

Reply Score: 2

Trenien Member since:
2007-10-11

I'm not sure what you mean with:
it doesn't automatically bring up the ability to play the movies, like it does when Quicktime is installed

Are you talking about codecs, or about opening an embeded movie when you're browsing ?

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flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Yeah opening the movie that's embedded in the page.

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Trenien Member since:
2007-10-11

Well, here it depends what browser and what system you're using.

If it's firefox, you can choose in the preferences which app you want to use for whatever is in the page, but you must have the vlc's mozilla-plugin installed.
If you're under windows I'm afraid I can't really help you further. Try to see if you can find the information you need on the VLC website:
http://www.videolan.org/

If under linux, just loock for that package in your package manager, whiever it may be, and install it.
Depending on your distro, it may be all you need to do, or you may yet need to tell firefox to use vlc (in preferences/apps).

Reply Score: 1

StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

QuickTime Alternative has worked fairly well in my experience.

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red_devel Member since:
2006-03-30

And as a customer ask yourself the equivalent simple question: why do I put up with this?


Because LOOK. Its SO shiny, and and watch: I can ZOOOOM in on this picture with this finger motion!!! Its SOOOOOOO COOOOL!!!!!

Reply Score: 3

coolvibe Member since:
2007-08-16

Maybe they will get the hint that it's an arms race, and open the damn device so people can hack on it without jumping through so many hoops as we have to do now...

One can only hope, of course.

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zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

Do you still have to buy quicktime pro to do mundane things like full screen videos? That used to irk the hell out of folks, hence the popularity of VLC in most Apple fora, I guess.

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RE: Time to get out the popcorn
by Soulbender on Mon 9th Mar 2009 09:22 UTC in reply to "Time to get out the popcorn"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Rationally (now theres a word that's out of favor in this day and age) the only thing Apple could do is say that you void your license by using the non-Apple app store. Then again, since you have already voided your license by jailbreaking the phone it's a moot point.
Knowing Apple, it probably won't stop there though.
I just love how the IT industry think it's so special and does not have to play by the same rules as other industries.

Edited 2009-03-09 09:25 UTC

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Comment by flanque
by flanque on Sun 8th Mar 2009 02:52 UTC
flanque
Member since:
2005-12-15

It's also a good thing for iPhone owners, as it gives them something Apple doesn't want them to have: choice

Regardless of other reasons, this is enough of a reason for this store to exist. Apple, listen up... people want and are entitled to choice.

Reply Score: 3

RE: Comment by flanque
by ssa2204 on Sun 8th Mar 2009 12:19 UTC in reply to "Comment by flanque"
ssa2204 Member since:
2006-04-22

Apple, listen up... people want and are entitled to choice.


People do have choice, they have the choice on whether to buy an iPhone or not. It is NOT as if the iPhone is the only phone in the world.

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Jailbroken and app store
by John Blink on Sun 8th Mar 2009 03:02 UTC
John Blink
Member since:
2005-10-11

If it is Jailbroken. Does that mean I can't buy apps from Apple's store?

Reply Score: 1

RE: Jailbroken and app store
by sirhalos on Sun 8th Mar 2009 06:06 UTC in reply to "Jailbroken and app store"
sirhalos Member since:
2007-04-04

From my understanding you can still use the App Store with a Jailbroken phone.

Reply Score: 1