Linked by Kroc Camen on Sun 19th Dec 2010 21:07 UTC
Podcasts The team have managed to pull themselves away from Minecraft long enough to produce a new podcast! The aim of this show to cover the big topics of 2010, including: HTML5 video, the rise of Android, more tablets than you can shake a stick at, handheld gaming biting at Nintendo's heels, companies suing companies and consumer rights degradation, web apps taking over the world, Microsoft Windows Phone 7 Series and capping off with our feelings on the lay of the land in 2011 before we invariably end up back at the crafting of mines.
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to Kroc
by Lennie on Sun 19th Dec 2010 21:56 UTC
Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

I noticed you call it HTML5, but it obviously is HTML5, CSS3, WebGL, SVG, fonts, etc. and maybe WebM.

Do you think HTML5 will be or is a hype/PR word like DHTML, Ajax, Web 2.0 ?

Also do you know if Flash now supports WebM ?

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RE: to Kroc
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 19th Dec 2010 22:02 UTC in reply to "to Kroc"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

HTML5 is an umbrella term. We're well aware it's just one part of it, but it's a very handy way of referring to them.

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RE[2]: to Kroc
by Lennie on Sun 19th Dec 2010 22:53 UTC in reply to "RE: to Kroc"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I guess you don't do any editing on the podcast ? As you had to leave in the middle ? :-)

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RE[3]: to Kroc
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 19th Dec 2010 22:58 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: to Kroc"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I guess you don't do any editing on the podcast ? As you had to leave in the middle ? :-)


Of course he edited it. It's just that me announcing I'm going to "the little boys thing" is funny.

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RE[3]: to Kroc
by Kroc on Mon 20th Dec 2010 11:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: to Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

I do almost no "editing" in the artistic sense. All I did was cut off two minutes of twiddling thumbs whilst Thom was away and then put in the music parts. It's a straight, unplanned record.

The show takes 2 hours to record, 3-4 hours to edit and 1 hour to render / upload and publish. This is an inescapably large amount of time on my day off. I will try looking at arranging something smaller and simpler to make the show more regular in the future.

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RE[4]: to Kroc
by Lennie on Mon 20th Dec 2010 15:44 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: to Kroc"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

That would be great.

Let's hope it does not turn out to be just a new years resolution. ;-)

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RE: to Kroc
by Kroc on Mon 20th Dec 2010 08:04 UTC in reply to "to Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

HTML5 became a buzzword as soon as Apple and Google started a slinging match over openness. It’s unavoidable, and whilst I shouldn’t join in, it would be even more pathetic if I held my little corner and insisted on it being said properly like those who correct every use of "Linux" with "GNU/Linux".

Adobe have said that WebM will be in Flash 11, which is marketing speak for "when it suits us".

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jokkel
Member since:
2008-07-07

As the year draws to an end, I would have liked to come back to predictions for 2010. The ARM powered Linux running Netbooks were hyped up a lot. But none of those actually appeared. There was quite a buzz about this at the beginning of the year.
What happened here? Another Linux on the desktop hype and fail?

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Another Linux on the desktop hype and fail?

If only some large company would get behind a linux-based laptop - maybe they could even give away about 50,000 of them to build market share. Oh well, I guess I can keep on dreaming...

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Those companies all seemed to have jumped ship after Microsoft got in the market.

Which I kind of understand, although we keep wondering if Microsoft actually talked to these companies or atleast the stores.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I agree.

But I don't think people expected this large uptake from the smartphone and iPads when the netbook came out. You could also say that this is also Linux and ARM.

The iPad is a system on chip which based on ARM design and Android and WebOS are ARM and Linux based.

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dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

True though I would love something like a bigger netwalker ( http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/29/sharps-pc-z1-netwalker-takes-the... ), android and iOS are still young in their eco-system.
These 2 OS have almost made mainstream developper aware of alternative to x86. But the momentum is still not there.

On another note, I love the kindle 3 ( despite having recently drowning it), and it is another nice ARM device running linux and Java on top of it.

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Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Blame Adobe: http://www.osnews.com/story/23256/Where_Are_the_SmartBooks_Blame_Ad...

I was massively looking forward to this category and it never arrived, instead the OEMs dropped what they were doing and immediately starting making tablets.

I would have much preferred Ubuntu over Android any day.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Yeah, Android is the walled garden, I don't like that at all. Somehow ChromeOS makes more sense to me, I could imagine running my own 'cloud' (read: server) or doing the something like that for a company.

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vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

I'm not sure Chrome OS would allow you to do that. Is it in Google's plans to promote the cloud computing paradigm when it doesn't involve using Google services? I'm not so sure.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

If that happends, then I'm not buying.

I will only be buying it if I can run my own, with for example ChromiumOS (the open source branch of ChromeOS).

And I'm sure the same goes for a lot of companies and other organisations.

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Car analogy and Android switch
by Lennie on Sun 19th Dec 2010 22:51 UTC
Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

But when you jail break you don't change the hardware.

I don't mind not loosing my waranty on the software if I change/replace the software. But the hardware should still be under warranty if ask me.

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Minecraft
by Lennie on Sun 19th Dec 2010 23:22 UTC
Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

While I don't know anything about this game, Thom could you not hook your PC up to your TV and get some kind of controller for your PC ? Won't that work ?

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RE: Minecraft
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 19th Dec 2010 23:36 UTC in reply to "Minecraft"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I tried, but it doesn't work. It's an entirely mouse-driven interface with lots of minuscule things that need to be placed in a particular order in minuscule holes. I managed to map everything to an Xbox 360 controller, but the interface of Minecraft needs an overhaul before it can be used on a controller.

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RE[2]: Minecraft
by Lennie on Mon 20th Dec 2010 00:18 UTC in reply to "RE: Minecraft"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Ohh, I see. That is annoying (actually makes sense too)

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RE[2]: Minecraft
by jokkel on Mon 20th Dec 2010 03:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Minecraft"
jokkel Member since:
2008-07-07

Deal with it. You won't be able to play Starcraft 2 on your XBox either.

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The real reason for Wii's decline
by RichterKuato on Mon 20th Dec 2010 05:12 UTC
RichterKuato
Member since:
2010-05-14

It's not a surprise to me that techies have failed to understand the cause of the Wii's rising and declining popularity. This is somewhat out of their expertise.

Video Games are entertainment. So video game systems are mainly sold based on entertainment values with technical features/capability largely going unnoticed. The Wii's value wasn't just it's motion controller but the kind of games it had. The Wii's currently decline is more related to the lack of system selling Games coming from Nintendo.

Lately Nintendo's been letting developers make games they feel like making (Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid: Other M and the upcoming Zelda: Skyward Sword.) With all sorts of puzzles, cut-scenes and other boring non-game related elements. While good games with arcade style game play (Wii Sports, Super Mario Bros. 5 etc.) is mostly being left for third parties now. (Donkey Kong Country 4)

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RE: Podcast Episode 39: Twenty Ten
by pjafrombbay on Mon 20th Dec 2010 07:30 UTC
pjafrombbay
Member since:
2005-07-31

I thought you were all dead! I had given up ever hearing an OS News podcast again. I remember a long time ago when they used to be quite regular and were generally good to listen to but then they just disappeared. :-(

Merry Xmas and its good you are back.

Regards,
Peter

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Minecraft is awesome
by Affableaardvark on Mon 20th Dec 2010 13:26 UTC
Affableaardvark
Member since:
2010-12-20

and updated to beta today!

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RE: Minecraft is awesome
by SnowBuddha on Mon 20th Dec 2010 16:17 UTC in reply to "Minecraft is awesome"
SnowBuddha Member since:
2009-04-17

Happy birthday to me.. happy birthday to me...

Back on subject, glad the podcasts are back!

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Nintendo and video games
by drcouzelis on Mon 20th Dec 2010 18:22 UTC
drcouzelis
Member since:
2010-01-11

I was very surprised by your comments about Nintendo.

In regards to re-releasing old games, Nintendo, of course, does that because they make money from it.

You tried to make a point about Super Mario Galaxy 2 being exactly the same as Super Mario Galaxy 1. How is that a different situation when comparing Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 1?

Also, both Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 are two of the highest rated games for any system. Even if they are similar games, is Super Mario Galaxy 2 not fun because it's similar to its prequel?

Your comment that "Nintendo is afraid of new things" doesn't make sense to me. In regards to hardware, I believe Nintendo is the video game company that is the LEAST afraid to try new things. Do you disagree?

In regards to software, it's true that Nintendo reuses many characters and franchises, but they often do so with new gameplay ideas.

In regards to "what do they have?", next year Nintendo will release the first portable system with a 3D display. As for beyond that, Nintendo has a history of keeping development quiet, releasing a new product that is different from products in the past, making lots of money from it, and then having other companies copy them.

I'm grateful that Tess spoke up at the end with a good comment summing up Nintendo.

Nintendo has been "dying" for decades, yet every year they make a whole lot of money.

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RE: Nintendo and video games
by Kroc on Tue 21st Dec 2010 08:51 UTC in reply to "Nintendo and video games"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

The threat Nintendo are facing is that they are out of touch with digital distribution. They appear afraid of it supplanting their normal brick-n-mortar sales, so the Wii Shop remains stuck in 2006 with barely a change since. No videos, little to no information on what you are purchasing, no marketing at all, no DLC and too high prices (1500pts—£10.50—for one episode of Sonic 4!)

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RE[2]: Nintendo and video games
by RichterKuato on Tue 21st Dec 2010 16:58 UTC in reply to "RE: Nintendo and video games"
RichterKuato Member since:
2010-05-14

It's not about technology or business models. Nintendo just has a problem managing their creative force. The Nintendo developers are used to making games they feel like making, and hate making the kind of games that people want to play (because that's would be boring for them).

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The Nintendo developers are used to making games they feel like making


So, they've been feeling like making Mario, Zelda, and Metroid the past 20 years?

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RichterKuato Member since:
2010-05-14

No, they have to make games based off of those franchises no matter what. Beyond that they just do whatever they want. (eg. Metroid: Other M)

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About tablets
by vodoomoth on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 18:55 UTC
vodoomoth
Member since:
2010-03-30

Just wanted to mention that I have been surprised hearing you mention ease of use as a possible argument or reason for the success of tablets... Seems like I've even heard someone say it could/would be easier for the average people because the tablet made things simpler and avoided the complexity inherent to the desktop PC.

Although that may be true (I've never used, touched or seen a tablet) the whole discussion was about the iPad... And no, the iPad as-is in this first generation, is unable to totally avoid that complexity as was implied: AFAIK, no one can only have an iPad the same way that so many people only have a notebook. It might lessen the times users experience that complexity but it doesn't remove it. Maybe that in the two-year time frame you mentioned this will be true. For now, unless I'm mistaken, all iPad owners have a "normal" computer.

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RE: About tablets
by Kroc on Thu 23rd Dec 2010 19:39 UTC in reply to "About tablets"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

The single biggest flaw with the iPad is that it requires another computer.

I had to set one up for a customer; he said there was no way he could have ever have done it. I had to go through so many insane steps to download & install iTunes, register the iPad, set up an iTunes account, enter that into the iPad… it was really too much just to start using the thing.

Actually using it? Not too much of a problem. Browsing the web is great.

I wonder if Apple will ever wake up and realise that their bloated iTunes monster is really crippling the Apple experience.

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