Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 13:30 UTC
Internet & Networking

Two high-profile companies are shutting down development for two platforms this week. First, Facebook has announced it is ceasing development of the Facebook and WhatsApp applications for BlackBerry OS.

The app landscape continues to evolve, and in ways that are not always within our control. Recently, Facebook made the decision to discontinue support of their essential APIs for BlackBerry and WhatsApp announced they would end support for BlackBerry 10 and BBOS at the end of 2016.

In addition, Twitter announced it is ceasing development of its only application for desktop Windows, TweetDeck.

To better focus on enhancing your TweetDeck experience, we'll no longer support a standalone Windows app. If you use Windows, you'll still be able to visit TweetDeck on the web - nothing is changing about TweetDeck itself, just where you access it from. This change will take effect on April 15th.

TweetDeck was the only desktop Twitter client the company ever supported (it bought TweetDeck several years ago), and while it is far from perfect, it's the only desktop Twitter client that was halfway decent. Twitter never created a proper Win32 client, and neither did anyone else. They do have a Metro client developed by a third party, but it's pretty terrible and a horrible user experience on a desktop machine.

Unlikely as it is, I'm still stubbornly holding out hope somebody creates a nice and elegant Win32 Twitter client, because with the shutdown of TweetDeck, I don't have any options for using Twitter on the computing platform I use the most (i.e., Windows).

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Does it matter?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 13:39 UTC
Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

For something like twitter, the web is fine for me. Its not exactly xcode or photoshop.

Reply Score: 4

RE: Does it matter?
by darknexus on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 14:15 UTC in reply to "Does it matter?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

It depends how you use it. If you like to keep your Twitter client window open, then the web is probably fine. If, on the other hand, you like to keep it in the background and get select notifications about important events, and to have it run constantly, then the web isn't so great. I agree, the Windows Twitter client landscape is very much lacking. Most other platforms have awesome clients, but somehow Windows has been ignored.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Does it matter?
by BranSul on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 16:59 UTC in reply to "RE: Does it matter?"
BranSul Member since:
2016-03-23

So basically the simplest solution would be for someone to write a notification app that redirects to the web site?

Reply Score: 1

RE[3]: Does it matter?
by darknexus on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 17:11 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Does it matter?"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Simplest, but probably not the most streamlined. If you use Chrome, in fact, you can already have this. It's generally nice to have timelines and at least basic functions right there.

Reply Score: 2

RE[4]: Does it matter?
by Lennie on Thu 24th Mar 2016 09:15 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Does it matter?"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

Why you'd need an app is beyond me, there is a notifications API:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/API/notification

Also Thunderbird as a Twitter feed which will give you notifications.

Reply Score: 3

RE: Does it matter?
by CaptainN- on Thu 24th Mar 2016 13:55 UTC in reply to "Does it matter?"
CaptainN- Member since:
2005-07-07

Anyone remember the old Adobe AIR based Tweet Deck (the one TweetDeck produced before Twitter bought them, and they switched to an HTML5 container)?

That old yellow icon TweetDeck was better in a lot of ways than even the current TweetDeck. I never really used the blue icon one.

Reply Score: 2

Twitter wants users
by grahamtriggs on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 17:49 UTC
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Member since:
2009-05-27

Apparently, Twitter are desperate for users.

They might want to stop killing off the usable ways of accessing it, forcing people to use their crappy experiences.

Reply Score: 2

RE: Twitter wants users
by darknexus on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 19:55 UTC in reply to "Twitter wants users"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

There are no users anymore, only potential ad targets. It's sad. ;)

Reply Score: 3

RE: Twitter wants users
by lucas_maximus on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 21:49 UTC in reply to "Twitter wants users"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

There are a lot of SJW stuff going on at Twitter and people have complained about how anything that is politically to the right aren't showing up in feeds.

I don't know if it is true at all, but if it is ... it is pretty shitty.

Reply Score: 3

RE[2]: Twitter wants users
by darknexus on Thu 24th Mar 2016 15:37 UTC in reply to "RE: Twitter wants users"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

I haven't noticed anything disappearing, but those groups do like to bully people into "voluntarily" removing content. They're nasty.

Reply Score: 2

RE[2]: Twitter wants users
by winter skies on Sat 26th Mar 2016 14:59 UTC in reply to "RE: Twitter wants users"
winter skies Member since:
2009-08-21

It might as well be just because the right has the culture of victimism deeply embedded in its core. Just sayin'

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RE: Twitter wants users
by PartTimeZombie on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 23:28 UTC in reply to "Twitter wants users"
PartTimeZombie Member since:
2015-07-30

I don't think twitter will be around for a long time.
As you said, they're desperate for users, and they are desperate to keep Wall St. happy which means they're on the horns of a dilemma as they won't be able to please both.
I think that means they'll opt to try to make money, which will make twitter an awful experience, and the users will jump onto the next social media bandwagon.

Reply Score: 1

Vanders
Member since:
2005-07-06

...and nothing of value was lost.

Reply Score: 2

lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I don't think that is correct.

Twitter has some pretty good use cases, debating complicated topics isn't it. What it is good at doing is a quick share of information with some basic context.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

What it is good at doing is a quick share of information with some basic context.


Yeah, but do you really need a bloated thick client for that?

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darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Yeah, but do you really need a bloated thick client for that?

Better than a bloated, thick website. ;)

Reply Score: 2

I wrote a C# client
by lucas_maximus on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 20:51 UTC
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

I wrote a commandline client in C# quite a few years ago, so I could understand their api and how the OAuth flow worked, I should probably dust the code off if I can find it.

Edited 2016-03-23 20:52 UTC

Reply Score: 2

RE: I wrote a C# client
by zizban on Wed 23rd Mar 2016 23:56 UTC in reply to "I wrote a C# client"
zizban Member since:
2005-07-06

Make sure it uses the 1.1 API. The switch from 1.0 t0 1.1 broke many a Twitter client.

Reply Score: 3

Facebook have never supported BB10
by vezhlys on Thu 24th Mar 2016 04:52 UTC
vezhlys
Member since:
2005-08-19

Facebook have never supported BB10. FB app was written by blackberry itself using their API, instagram didn't have any official app too (just third party appeared later on, or android runtime could be used). Some parts of facebook API are not accessible since end of this month, so blackberry just changed it to shortcut to web application (this bb app was pretty bad anyway).
WhatsApp had very good support and it's a bit of shame that they included bb10 as "legacy" platform (but again they are fb company now and business is business). It's not as bad for the next year or so as platform still have alternatives and android app support but definitely next upgrade to bb10 device would make much less sense in the context of these news.

Reply Score: 3

Just makes sense for twitter
by Yann64 on Thu 24th Mar 2016 11:21 UTC
Yann64
Member since:
2006-04-14

They just released a Windows Universal Platform version of their client, so no real need to maintain TwitDeck on top of that.

Reply Score: 1

Fascinating...
by sardaukar on Thu 24th Mar 2016 14:32 UTC
sardaukar
Member since:
2006-05-09

... that someone posting on a website about Operating Systems actually uses Windows as their main OS.

Reply Score: 0

Project Macaw
by normsland on Thu 24th Mar 2016 15:36 UTC
normsland
Member since:
2011-12-14

because with the shutdown of TweetDeck, I don't have any options for using Twitter on the computing platform I use the most (i.e., Windows).

You could always try Project Macaw. On WebOS it is a favourite twitter app but because it is based on the Enyo framework it is multiplatform too. The Chrome App is available below:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/macaw/mhpopablkdchbgelchal...

More info here: https://github.com/minego/macaw-enyo

Reply Score: 1

No options?
by Soulbender on Sun 27th Mar 2016 02:36 UTC
Soulbender
Member since:
2005-08-18

I don't have any options for using Twitter on the computing platform I use the most (i.e., Windows


I like how you make it sound like you can't use Twitter at all in Windows now. Except, you know, in any browser...

Reply Score: 2

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by Anonymous on Wed 30th Mar 2016 02:12 UTC