From the Fedora site: "The second test release of Fedora Core 3 is now available
from Red Hat and at distinguished mirror sites near you, and is also
available in the torrent.
This test release is available for both x86-64 and i386.
Please file bugs via
Bugzilla,
Product Fedora Core, Version fc3test2,
so that they are noticed and appropriately classified. Discuss this test release on
fedora-test-list."
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It would be useful to have a what's new page to go with the release! There's no readme, whatsnew.txt or anything like that for this test release. There might be one on the ISO, but who is going to download 650 MB to read a 2 k file?
I'm in quick need of a replacement for FC2, or at least a reinstall as my install has become unstable and unusable (memory leaks galore, bad repos I think).
My favorite from the announcement is:
- a minor change to the device model, switching from a static /dev to a dynamic /dev provided by udev
That's not exactly a "minor" change in TheMatt world. That plus SELinux means I might wait a week or two before installing FC3.
check here http://www.linuxbeta.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=110&slide... shortly for a slideshow of this release.
New software of note are GCC 3.4 with precompiled headers, KDE 3.3, GNOME 2.8, X.org 6.8, Evolution 2.0, Vino VNC server, HelixPlayer, Theora and Firefox.
Changes to the distro itself include SELinux being enabled by default, with policy for all the supplied packages. The biggest change is probably the inclusion of HAL from Freedesktop.org and the move to udev, so you get new /media, /srv, dev nodes created at runtime etc. Also gamin has completely replaced FAM so you can probably eliminate portmapper on desktops now.
NetworkManager is a new system that should allow some nifty roaming automagic for laptop users among other things.
http://www.bytebot.net/talks/FC3-t2rawhide-whatsnew.pdf
if you are using fedora core 2, use xpdf/kpdf instead of gpdf
http://www.bytebot.net/talks/FC3-t2rawhide-whatsnew.pdf
if you are using fedora core 2, use xpdf/kpdf instead of gpdf
Or download gpdf from Gnome 2.8.
If I install this test 2 release, wil I have to reformat/reinstall when test 3 is released? Is there any way to upgrade from test 2 to test 3 and the final core3 when it is released?
Hi
Yes you can do that by tracking the development version directly using up2date pointed to rawhide repos or using the PXE boot option and fiddling with grub
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2004-September/msg0...
remember that test releases or rawhide can be very buggy at times and it is ONLY meant for testers
agian there was problems..
LWN problems, why not plan better?
libgnome 2.7.92?
evolution 1.5.94.1?
But all this pre beta testing, when final fedora comes out that will be good, cause then we are in rc mode in terms of RH 4.
But all this pre beta testing, when final fedora comes out that will be good, cause then we are in rc mode in terms of RH 4.
Fedora is not a Red Hat beta, test, RC or whatever you want to call it. Was NT4 just a win2k beta? Is MDK community just a MDK beta? or SuSe personal just a Enterprise beta?
heh, no kidding...switching mandrake from devfs to udev caused enough problems...
"Is MDK community just a MDK beta?"
actually, yep, that's pretty close. 
I used to love Redhat back in my earlier days w/ linux. I, personally, had nothing but problems w/ the Fedora releases and my FC2 became so fubar'd after using apt-rpm I finally got fed up.
Then, I finally tried Gentoo, and now I'm in love w/ Linux all over again. Just installing it taught me 1000x more than I ever would have learned w/ any other distro.
For you redhat folks looking for a "hackable" yet fun to use and powerful distro, Gentoo is a great leap forward!
Man, just the difference in speed! FC2 is a *snail* in comparison!
-rant over...
This is not a Gentoo commercial thread, this is no differen't than "Gentoo RUlez, RH droolz!"
It's not Fedora's fault if the fault sits behind his computer.
Sorry to say this, but if you don't accept to fine grain your reposities and fed up Fedora, than it's not Fedora's fault.
> FC2 is a *snail* in comparison!
User is a *snail* in comparsion!
Gentoo/Slackware is not as fast as everyone claims. Even Suse is fast if you tweak only a little bit of some daemons/some cron-entries in the background...
use fedora, love it ... nice and stable a few months on. i carefully select what i will install from trusted sources using synaptic or yum to control dependancies.
my only problem has been something i tried to add from cpan, but i will resolve that.
i have another install, when i cba to set it up, and that will be used for anything remotely untrusted.
i expect more from fc3, and will wait and see how good it is.
i like some other distros too, tho, in case i get mistaken for a fedora fanboy. i have knoppix to do disk partitioning , because i am paranoid about messing things up and rather the HD is completely un-used when i am doing stuff. i want to try out gnome 2.8 & see what SELinux is all about and some other things that are still quite new. to me, it is not about the distro, it is about who has the newest versions of stuff i want, while remaining stable.
Been running t2 for a week. udev rocks! Very responsive!
Well reason I bash fedora is they could have gone with building it like the debian/gentoo/slackware wich they do not- they get more new stuff in that way- then I mean there can be one package in e.g debian wich would be nice to have wich did not make it`s way- if you read on fedora mailing lists, they had to try several test builds before beta2 wich debian/slack/gentoo don`t in the same way- They include ALOT of new stuff wich I find amazing, but this also introduces issues. try to autopartiotion in vmware and se what yo end up with- don`t boot ( latest verison of vmware) LOTS of experimental in kernel etc- it will all be fine when fedora users have beta tested this and it can go into RH4, hell I use it for desktop once and awhile, but when there are some "fedora" versions of debian out there, I`d rater go with that, xandros 3 wich will soon be out. And suse desktop is in a way beta for server version, look at the changelog between the two....
If I however wanted a top desktop/workstation solution that would blow all others away I`d actually pay for Rh4 when that came out. 5 years+ of running+ security and proably the best in terms of support. If I want a system for dekstop I`d go with a debian/"debain fedora solution" so much more to do/install free.
If I wanna learn basic linux slack/gentoo- redhat is pri gui.
I remember correctly, all linux distros are not created equal other than they are built for the same kernel. Therefore, this kind excuse for bashing is not acceptable technical side. Why don't you simply post on Fedora topic for a while? That will remove hassle for people who are looking to use Fedora.
Although I'm a Debian user myself, I'm really excited to see a distro start implementing some of the upcoming things (HAL, SELinux, etc.). I'd probably consider using Fedora if the repositories could be kept as consistent as Debian does. At one time I read that there was efforts underway for the different repositories to be mixed without breaking things. Anybody know the status of this?
if you are using fedora core 2, use xpdf/kpdf instead of gpdf
Or download gpdf from Gnome 2.8.
Or use Windows lol 
sorry I couldn't resist it, I am only kidding
Well, I am looking forward to this release. I haven't touched linux ever since the "booting into XP" problem appeared.
I just Installed Fedora Core 3 Test1, ugh, time to update...
I'm not going to download any more isos until final comes out, i'm pretty sure that if i download Test2 Test3 will come out soon or final.
Anyway, FC3 Test1 lacks a lot of stuff from FC3 Test2... But all in all i'm impressed, very polished for a test release.
Well, I am looking forward to this release. I haven't touched linux ever since the "booting into XP" problem appeared.
Uh, shouldn't that last part read, "I haven't touched Windows ever since the 'booting into XP' problem appeared"? How does a problem with XP affect Linux?
Will my wireless card work out of the box? Or do I have to go through all that linux install stuff?
Does any one have any suggestions on repositories which will play nice together, as I have been unable to find recommendations other than the official fedora servers and livna.org .
No. Thanks. Not this time. Mandrake's Community release 10.1 has exhausted me. upgraded from a previous current 10.1 that was using XFree86. got rid of that and am using the default Xorg. took me a few hours to learn how to make a symlink to Xorg in /etc/X11. :-). i'm a baby. Everything is fine except I can not open the Mandrake Control Center. I have it on 2 lap tops and the same problem with Control Center. I am tired.
Jay Repository issues are hammered out pretty much
http://www.fedorafaq.org/samples/yum.conf
That default config will keep you safe
it includes macromedia, lvnia, fedora-us and updates.
Out of the questionable ones I use DaG and its not given me any trouble, there was a fight for gaim once before update servers were mirrored but that was about it I think. I use quite a few hardly heard of apps and DaG has them, since I guess May I've only had to compile maybe 5-10 apps the rest were a "yum install foo" away.
If you give Fedora a shot you'll probably miss some of Debians good things like maturity, but Fedora has a few things going for it too.
1. Is there any way to edit the menu structure via GUI editor like the MenuDrake in Mandrake linux ? Editing of /etc/applications desktop entries with text editor IMHO not too user friendly thing.
2. The yum can read from removeable devices (CD,DVD, etc) or only from the net via httpd protocol ?
3. Is there a GUI interface for yum like synaptic for apt ?
1. Is there any way to edit the menu structure via GUI editor like the MenuDrake in Mandrake linux ? Editing of /etc/applications desktop entries with text editor IMHO not too user friendly thing.
I haven't touched on menu setting yet on Gnome. However, KDE menu editor is broken on Fedora Core 2 and I don't know if Fedora Core 3 Test 2 fixed that issue.
2. The yum can read from removeable devices (CD,DVD, etc) or only from the net via httpd protocol ?
Both as long you configure your yum.conf to read from media you mentionned. Read http://www.fedorafaq.org or visit http://www.fedoraforum.org for help.
3. Is there a GUI interface for yum like synaptic for apt ?
Yes, it is called YumGUI and it is made by Cobind http://www.cobind.com . You can get the source code to set your own Yum GUI too.
anybody knows how to upgrade from FC2 (or FC3-Test1) to FC3-Test2? using yum?
thanks.
I assume you already log as root or you can also use su -c "[command]" to keep loggin as user.
Simply edit yum.conf by uncommenting development repository. Once done, you should be able to upgrade from FC2 to FC3-T2.
since FC3-T2 has some new features (like HAL, DBUS, udev with /media, /srv), are you sure that yum can bring them all to me? i really doubt that (??)
many thanks.
It is likely that not all features will be implemented since this is only an upgrade you will do. That is like changing the engine part and other accesories while keeping the same body car. To fully take advantage of these new features, it is better to install the OS from scratch.
The upgrade should be smoother than it was from FC1 to FC2T2 due the change of kernel.
