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Its a very noble gesture from the Mozilla Foundation. I hope other opensource projects continue supporting each other in this manner. Incidentally on the Mozilla Foundation article there is something about Firefox 2.0 and 3.0 being licenced as GPL/LGPL and MPL as well. Very interesting.

It already is and always has been tri-licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL.

>It already is and always has been tri-licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL

But until last month it wasn't complete tri-licenced.

This goal achieved only a few days ago:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2006/03/relicensing_co...

a noble gesture? if it's true, that the mozilla foundation [non-profit] is making over $30m annually off of its deal for the google search box, than i would expect them to support *more* open-source projects and with *more* money. hm?
anyway, good luck openbsd/ssh.

So if Mozilla earns money through the success of their browser they get criticized, and if they give away this money to other (remotely related) projects they get criticized as well because they don't give enough?

Helping the openSD project is a nice gesture from Mozilla, but the most important thing, and this is probably what the Mozilla Fundation expected, is that it gave a lot of publicity to the current OpenBSD financial problems and people/companies will probably donate more.

i agree with you about the publicity thing. what i meant was:
earning money - is great. donating some of it - is great.

but for a non-profit foundation with a $30m budget, i don't see enought of this money floating around. that's all.

Yes but this non profit organization is also hiring new people almost every week, they are no longer a 10 people organization and more like a 100 people one, which means salaries, offices, furniture, travel expenses...

And I do expect them to not spend this money in a year time like somebody you just won the lottery but plan to have money in the bank to remain independent from external pressure for the years to come.

I agree that they should spend much more money in the community tahn they do now (which is close to zero), but I expect them to spend the bulk of it in its direct activities, opening mozilla branches in the world, participating in opensource events, organizing mozilla events, hiring new mozilla developpers, giving money/machines to mozilla localizers, paying the hosting bills of Mozilla portals...

When was Mozilla ever a 10 person company?

They had 80+ devs from the start.

80+ people from the start, in your dreams!!! Even now there are barely 80 full time developers working on Mozilla code and many of them are doing it for partner comapnies like IBM, Google or RedHat.

When Netscape was axed by AOL and the Mozilla foundation was created, barely 10 people were hired by the new unit. There is a huge difference between "we have 80 developpers" and "we have 80 PAID developpers". Until very recently key developpers like super-reviewers and module owners were still unemployed and working for free on the project.

Small names, like individuals, can help also. Have you pre-ordered you OpenBSD 3.9 sets?

OpenBSD guys want a bit too much for their sets. 45 euro? I'd buy it for 20 and they still would profit. Now I'll just download it

You get stickers! And artwork. And you support an open source project. If you just download it you don't get stickers, you can download some artwork but it's never going to be the same as the official cd inserts, and you don't support the project.

Of course you could buy a couple shirts and download and support the project... or just donate 20 euro and download it and still support the project...

or you can just not support the project but who would want to do that?

Of course you could buy a couple shirts and download and support the project... or just donate 20 euro and download it and still support the project...

But then I don't get the stickers! Man, this is a cruel world...

;)

I keep telling everyone that it's all about the stickers and no one believes me!

edit- Imagine how many stickers the mozilla guys are gonna get? lifetime supply I imagine! *sigh* maybe if you donate to mozilla you'll get openbsd stickers. I dare you to donate and find out!

Edited 2006-04-04 20:14

They might make a profit on the cost of producing the discs themselves but not on all the dev time spent on the software itself.

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060321034114

Well they probably do but openssh is such a great techology why not. It works on linux and is simply amazing.

Thats true. Its just that you don't see too many high profile companies donating to them be it for openbsd or openssh.