Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Apr 2006 17:30 UTC, submitted by kamper
OpenBSD "Frank Hecker from the Mozilla Foundation contacted Theo to inform him that the foundation decided to donate $10000 to the OpenSSH project. Frank mentioned this today in the Mozilla Foundation's status report. The OpenSSH project truly appreciates this gesture of solidarity from such a respectable open source project. Besides this sizeable donation we also received hundreds of smaller donations, mostly from individuals and small companies. Thanks everyone for stepping up to keep OpenBSD/OpenSSH ticking."
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by Lazarus on Tue 4th Apr 2006 17:43 UTC
Lazarus
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2005-08-10

Very nice!

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RE: Very Nice!
by dark child on Tue 4th Apr 2006 17:53 UTC in reply to " "
dark child Member since:
2005-12-09

Its a very noble gesture from the Mozilla Foundation. I hope other opensource projects continue supporting each other in this manner. Incidentally on the Mozilla Foundation article there is something about Firefox 2.0 and 3.0 being licenced as GPL/LGPL and MPL as well. Very interesting.

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RE[2]: Very Nice!
by MYOB on Tue 4th Apr 2006 18:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Very Nice!"
MYOB Member since:
2005-06-29

It already is and always has been tri-licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL.

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RE[3]: Very Nice!
by schiesbn on Tue 4th Apr 2006 18:28 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Very Nice!"
schiesbn Member since:
2006-03-30

>It already is and always has been tri-licenced MPL/GPL/LGPL

But until last month it wasn't complete tri-licenced.

This goal achieved only a few days ago:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2006/03/relicensing_co...

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RE[2]: Very Nice!
by kamil_chatrnuch on Wed 5th Apr 2006 10:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Very Nice!"
kamil_chatrnuch Member since:
2005-07-07

a noble gesture? if it's true, that the mozilla foundation [non-profit] is making over $30m annually off of its deal for the google search box, than i would expect them to support *more* open-source projects and with *more* money. hm?
anyway, good luck openbsd/ssh.

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RE[3]: Very Nice!
by pascalc on Wed 5th Apr 2006 12:07 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Very Nice!"
pascalc Member since:
2006-04-05

So if Mozilla earns money through the success of their browser they get criticized, and if they give away this money to other (remotely related) projects they get criticized as well because they don't give enough?

Helping the openSD project is a nice gesture from Mozilla, but the most important thing, and this is probably what the Mozilla Fundation expected, is that it gave a lot of publicity to the current OpenBSD financial problems and people/companies will probably donate more.

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RE[4]: Very Nice!
by kamil_chatrnuch on Wed 5th Apr 2006 12:44 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Very Nice!"
kamil_chatrnuch Member since:
2005-07-07

i agree with you about the publicity thing. what i meant was:
earning money - is great. donating some of it - is great.

but for a non-profit foundation with a $30m budget, i don't see enought of this money floating around. that's all.

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RE[5]: Very Nice!
by pascalc on Wed 5th Apr 2006 12:55 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Very Nice!"
pascalc Member since:
2006-04-05

Yes but this non profit organization is also hiring new people almost every week, they are no longer a 10 people organization and more like a 100 people one, which means salaries, offices, furniture, travel expenses...

And I do expect them to not spend this money in a year time like somebody you just won the lottery but plan to have money in the bank to remain independent from external pressure for the years to come.

I agree that they should spend much more money in the community tahn they do now (which is close to zero), but I expect them to spend the bulk of it in its direct activities, opening mozilla branches in the world, participating in opensource events, organizing mozilla events, hiring new mozilla developpers, giving money/machines to mozilla localizers, paying the hosting bills of Mozilla portals...

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RE[6]: Very Nice!
by Ronald Vos on Wed 5th Apr 2006 21:07 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Very Nice!"
Ronald Vos Member since:
2005-07-06

When was Mozilla ever a 10 person company?

They had 80+ devs from the start.

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RE[7]: Very Nice!
by pascalc on Wed 5th Apr 2006 21:19 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Very Nice!"
pascalc Member since:
2006-04-05

80+ people from the start, in your dreams!!! Even now there are barely 80 full time developers working on Mozilla code and many of them are doing it for partner comapnies like IBM, Google or RedHat.

When Netscape was axed by AOL and the Mozilla foundation was created, barely 10 people were hired by the new unit. There is a huge difference between "we have 80 developpers" and "we have 80 PAID developpers". Until very recently key developpers like super-reviewers and module owners were still unemployed and working for free on the project.

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v Wow.
by eMagius on Tue 4th Apr 2006 17:48 UTC
Thanks Mozilla
by antonis00 on Tue 4th Apr 2006 17:50 UTC
antonis00
Member since:
2006-03-26

This is a good move from the Mozilla foundation. Everybody benefits from OpenSSH not only the OpenBSD project. It would be nice if other "big names" follow the Mozilla Foundation's example.

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RE: Thanks Mozilla
by celt on Tue 4th Apr 2006 17:53 UTC in reply to "Thanks Mozilla"
celt Member since:
2005-07-06

Small names, like individuals, can help also. Have you pre-ordered you OpenBSD 3.9 sets?

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RE[2]: Thanks Mozilla
by miscz on Tue 4th Apr 2006 19:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Thanks Mozilla"
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

OpenBSD guys want a bit too much for their sets. 45 euro? I'd buy it for 20 and they still would profit. Now I'll just download it ;)

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RE[3]: Thanks Mozilla
by sequethin on Tue 4th Apr 2006 19:33 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Thanks Mozilla"
sequethin Member since:
2005-07-06

You get stickers! And artwork. And you support an open source project. If you just download it you don't get stickers, you can download some artwork but it's never going to be the same as the official cd inserts, and you don't support the project.

Of course you could buy a couple shirts and download and support the project... or just donate 20 euro and download it and still support the project...

or you can just not support the project but who would want to do that? ;)

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RE[4]: Thanks Mozilla
by miscz on Tue 4th Apr 2006 20:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Thanks Mozilla"
miscz Member since:
2005-07-17

Of course you could buy a couple shirts and download and support the project... or just donate 20 euro and download it and still support the project...

But then I don't get the stickers! Man, this is a cruel world... ;)

;)

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RE[5]: Thanks Mozilla
by sequethin on Tue 4th Apr 2006 20:13 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Thanks Mozilla"
sequethin Member since:
2005-07-06

I keep telling everyone that it's all about the stickers and no one believes me! ;)

edit- Imagine how many stickers the mozilla guys are gonna get? lifetime supply I imagine! *sigh* maybe if you donate to mozilla you'll get openbsd stickers. I dare you to donate and find out!

Edited 2006-04-04 20:14

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RE[3]: Thanks Mozilla
by tcremer on Tue 4th Apr 2006 20:18 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Thanks Mozilla"
tcremer Member since:
2005-08-19

They might make a profit on the cost of producing the discs themselves but not on all the dev time spent on the software itself.

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060321034114

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have they met there 100k objective ?
by Moulinneuf on Tue 4th Apr 2006 18:21 UTC
Moulinneuf
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2005-07-06

Have they met there 100k objective yet , or do more people need to send money , again ?

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On the flipside..
by Ronald Vos on Tue 4th Apr 2006 18:27 UTC
Ronald Vos
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2005-07-06

edit: nvm.

Edited 2006-04-04 18:28

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Thanks Mozilla
by TaterSalad on Tue 4th Apr 2006 20:23 UTC
TaterSalad
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2005-07-06

Wow, this news shocked me. For some reason I always thought Mozilla leaned more towards the Windows and Linux crowd. This is indeed a great gesture by the Mozilla crew. I'd like to see other big named companies do the same and get credit for it. Mozilla gets my respect, even tho they already had it.

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RE: Thanks Mozilla
by msg43 on Tue 4th Apr 2006 20:49 UTC in reply to "Thanks Mozilla"
msg43 Member since:
2005-10-01

Well they probably do but openssh is such a great techology why not. It works on linux and is simply amazing.

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RE[2]: Thanks Mozilla
by TaterSalad on Tue 4th Apr 2006 20:52 UTC in reply to "RE: Thanks Mozilla"
TaterSalad Member since:
2005-07-06

Thats true. Its just that you don't see too many high profile companies donating to them be it for openbsd or openssh.

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