Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th May 2006 22:08 UTC, submitted by chrishaney
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris According to this blog entry by Warly Done, the ISO images of Mandriva One 2006 have been released to public mirrors: "Push Mandriva One final ISO on public FTP mirrors. They include all the updates and the latest kernel 2.6.12." Screenshot tour available, boys and girls, so rejoice. That's an order.
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by mattst88 on Tue 16th May 2006 22:28 UTC
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Yay for Madriva. If Gentoo wasn't filling my Linux needs, I might just install this. One thing though, the 'latest kernel 2.6.12'? Latest kernel is I can understand them using an older version, but calling a kernel from June '05 the 'latest'?

Also, please *quit* with the 'boys and girls'. If you don't mean it to be obnoxious: it is, cut it out; and if you do: cut it out.

Edited 2006-05-16 22:28

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Mandriva 2006... old?
by leech on Tue 16th May 2006 23:13 UTC
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Makes you wonder if Mandriva will have to start putting out new versions every 6 or so months like Ubuntu and Fedora Core do to keep up. I'm not sure if OpenSuse is on that sort of schedule, I think they more or less just release when ready, correct?

I used to really like Mandrake and would suggest it to new users. I would not suggest it to bleeding edge people, that's for sure.

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v why?
by Sabz on Tue 16th May 2006 23:40 UTC
RE: why?
by raver31 on Wed 17th May 2006 06:51 UTC in reply to "why?"
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Why ? because most people who use it love it, they have a loyal following with the mandriva club. I meself am a silver member, I pay into the club, and I follow developments.
I no longer use Mandriva on my own system, but I still recommend it to new Linux users as it is a great way to switch from other OS's

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by garret on Wed 17th May 2006 00:08 UTC
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Is anybody still using Mandriva? Where is this distro/company going? The US certainly isn't on it's Radar.

At one time a great company and Linux distribution with great features and a great history. It seems that they have lost so much of what made it great.

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RE: Truly
by raver31 on Wed 17th May 2006 06:55 UTC in reply to "Truly"
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Mandriva is still a very much used distro, and with recent purchases, they should be increasing their marketshare on Linux users desktops.
One place they should get massive market penetration is in South America after their purchase of Conectiva.

Mandriva as a company may not be very visible in the US, but, in reality, with all the patent and IP issues the US has at the minute, the US is falling further and further behind the rest of the world.

BTW, if anyone from Mandriva reads this, it was a BAD MOVE sacking Gael Duvall, he made that company,


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RE[2]: Truly
by stenka phocean on Wed 17th May 2006 07:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Truly"
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I am european, and what I can tell you is that Mandriva is less and less popular.
I don't think this distro will survive much any longer.
I agree it was a good distro which contributed to the Linux popularization (even if I never really liked because of its messy and too candy interface).

But it hasn't evoluated much recently and is now targeting only the companies, when it was popular among the end-user.
They spend all their little ressources in stupid marketing, useless association and certification, losing their community... They don't understand their large community was essential to convince the companies. They even lost their brain, Mr Duval.

So, I think the end of Mandriva is not far.

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RE[3]: Truly
by arctic on Wed 17th May 2006 11:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Truly"
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I don't share your point of view that Mandriva is getting less and less popular. Only because you don't read any news about them every two weeks (like with e.g. SUSE or Ubuntu lately) does not mean that they lose marketshare. It only means that they work on their distro quietly until things are ready for the first test-phase. No unneeded official propagation like e.g. the 1000th dapper flight CD or DSL RC99, 1.999998.

Mandriva went to a yearly release cycle which surely caused those who want the "latest and greatest" to switch to other ditros, but the majority of users, I guess, simply wants a quite stable system that they don't have to upgrade every six months, thus wnat an OS that allows them to work WITH their distro rather than working ON their distro all the time (one reason why I ditched Gentoo long time ago). Think of it: Many people stick to a stable debian, which should be dead by now, if your vision of things would be right. But still, debian is still there! ;) Same goes for many, many other distros.

Sure, not every move made by Mandriva was a good one, but give them credit: Their distro does just that, what many users expect an operating system to do. I agree however that for certain usergoups there are better solutions than Mandriva.

And now back on topic: Finally the CD got released for all. Another nice tool for system-rescue tasks and show-offs. ;)

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RE: Yay.
by darkmind on Wed 17th May 2006 00:36 UTC
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latest kernel 2.6.12 means the updated kernel of 2006.0.
Indeed Mandriva One 2006 is based on the ... 2006.0 which use kernel 2.6.12. So Mandriva One 2006 use the kernel 2.6.12 you can find in the updates ( security fixes + bugfixes )

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v ewwww
by Manuma on Wed 17th May 2006 01:36 UTC
I agree
by aGNUstic on Wed 17th May 2006 12:56 UTC
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I use and promote the Mandriva distro. It's stable on 90 percent of the equipment I install it on and the final 10 just need a boot code entered to get around the `MS` specific crap.

I am not a club member nor do I follow every single `burp` from the company. Such is the life of any organization public or private.

There is a huge and established community out there in the `ether` to keep the distro going in case the company takes a turn for the worse.

Just because it's not located here in the U.S. or makes money from being a `MS`or `RH`-like company does not mean it will go under.

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by Moochman on Wed 17th May 2006 15:03 UTC
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They seem to have KDE-ized Firefox, which is kind of nice, but why not OpenOffice, the way Suse does? Meanwhile, their Control Center is looking better than the Suse 10.1 implementation of YaST these days....

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Its just fine
by alcibiades on Wed 17th May 2006 19:42 UTC
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I've installed it on close to 10 machines for various people. It works fine. The drak tools are easy to use and understand. No, packages are not totally up to date, but who cares? I get very few calls indeed about the system itself. I usually use the option to put all the software on disk - it makes installing new packages very simple for them, especially if not on broadband.

If you are going with anything below PIII 500 its not the answer. Then its a custom Debian install. But PIII 500 or above, you can't go wrong. In fact, though its not Mandriva particularly, what is amazing is when you ask people what they would like. Would you like a recipe database package? Yes, I never knew I could have one! And so on.

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kernel, and stuff
by AdamW on Thu 18th May 2006 00:09 UTC
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The kernel bit is an oddly truncated quote from Warly's diary, where it makes much more sense:

"They includes all the updates and the latest kernel 2.6.12-19mdk."

cutting off the 19mdk makes it look rather odd. It just means that it has the latest _mandriva_ kernel for 2006.0, updated two versions from the one that was on the initial Club release of One.

mooch: One has 1.1.5, which doesn't really have the ability to be customised to KDE / GNOME (at least not without quite extensive surgery). If you upgrade to OO.o 2.0 via the Kiosk or the Club packages, you'll get the KDE and / or GNOME customizations too.

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RE: kernel, and stuff
by alcibiades on Thu 18th May 2006 06:30 UTC in reply to "kernel, and stuff"
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Yes, the 1.1.5 OO is a real pain. You have to not install OO from the distro, and then install 2.0 manually, and doing rp, -Uvh first for the program and then the menus is going to be totally beyond the average user. Pity really, it couldn't be very hard to fix.

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