Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 6th Mar 2007 15:56 UTC, submitted by Rob Phillips
Red Hat "The wait is almost over. It may have taken two weeks longer than Red Hat would have liked, but Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, the updated version of the company's commercial Linux platform, will be launched along with a bevy of new products and services on March 14. The delivery of RHEL 5, the fourth major commercial server release for Red Hat, will better position its Linux against Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 as well as Windows, Unix, and proprietary platforms."
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Prediction
by sbergman27 on Tue 6th Mar 2007 16:10 UTC
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

It will really be released on the 21st. ;-)

RE: Prediction
by butters on Tue 6th Mar 2007 16:36 UTC in reply to "Prediction"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

Speaking of predications, and as per our exchange from a couple days ago...

It will be released before Etch.

RE[2]: Prediction
by solidsnake on Tue 6th Mar 2007 16:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Prediction"
solidsnake Member since:
2006-06-04

Yes, but Etch will be better. ;)

RE[3]: Prediction
by anonymous_coward on Tue 6th Mar 2007 18:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Prediction"
anonymous_coward Member since:
2005-11-15

Yes, but Etch will be better. ;)

Not in the security area. RHEL5 will have all the security features used in Fedora Core 6 -> http://www.awe.com/mark/blog/200701041544.html

I looked at build logs from Debian packages and they do not use FORTIFY_SOURCE, Stack Smashing Protector, network services are not compiled as PIE, etc. Feel free to prove me wrong ;)

PS That wasn't who voted you down.

RE[4]: Prediction
by solidsnake on Tue 6th Mar 2007 20:15 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Prediction"
solidsnake Member since:
2006-06-04

I don't worry about buffer_overflows or PIE compiled network issues. I have a Windows box for that.

I'm sorry for my bias comment, but I have used Debian and other Debian based distos for 5 years now and I am comfortable with the level of security that I have for my network.

Since I don't run a major computer network for a billion dollar business, maybe I don't really need RHEL 5. (I couldn't afford a copy anyway)

Eitherway, Etch will be perfect for me at least when it (someday) is released.

PS. To help your self esteem, I voted you up one.

RE[2]: Prediction
by sbergman27 on Tue 6th Mar 2007 17:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Prediction"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""
It will be released before Etch.
"""

I'll forego the (nearly) obligatory Duke Nukem Forever remark. ;-)

Edit: And just to be clear, I do respect RedHat for holding off a full six months longer than they would have liked in order to get Xen right.

Edited 2007-03-06 17:14

Dell Pre-installs it..
by Southern.Pride on Tue 6th Mar 2007 16:23 UTC
Southern.Pride
Member since:
2006-09-14

On Dell's high end workstations you can have RHEL preconfigured and installed.

What I would like to see a comparison between SLED & RHEL releases when it is ready (latest versions) on server/workstation settings.

RE: Dell Pre-installs it..
by SEJeff on Tue 6th Mar 2007 17:01 UTC in reply to "Dell Pre-installs it.."
SEJeff Member since:
2005-11-05

SLED is designed for Desktops, hence the D (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop). For the servers, you install SLES (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server).

Redhat also has a workstation version of RHEL. Since RHEL5 is based off of FC6 with more bugfixes and some stabilization, it will probably make a really good desktop.

Note that Redhat is including software developed by Novell (compiz) by default and have a little applet (desktop-effects) to enable or disable it.

This is what makes open source amazing. Company A, who is a competitor of Company B develops software. Company B decides that it is good and include it in their own products along with improving it. Because of that, Company A (Novell) and Company B (Redhat) have better products.

RE[2]: Dell Pre-installs it..
by butters on Tue 6th Mar 2007 18:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Dell Pre-installs it.."
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

This is what makes open source amazing. Company A, who is a competitor of Company B develops software. Company B decides that it is good and include it in their own products along with improving it. Because of that, Company A (Novell) and Company B (Redhat) have better products.

Thus demonstrating why yesterday's rehash of the "Linux is too fractured" argument is still baloney.

RE[3]: Dell Pre-installs it..
by sbergman27 on Tue 6th Mar 2007 20:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Dell Pre-installs it.."
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""Thus demonstrating why yesterday's rehash of the "Linux is too fractured" argument is still baloney."""

It also exposes all those complaint threads about how Company/Distro/Person X copies from Company/Distro/Person Y as being silly.

So what does that leave, that we talk about regularly here on OSNews, that isn't silly? ;-)

Made me laugh anyway
by ameasures on Tue 6th Mar 2007 16:55 UTC
ameasures
Member since:
2006-01-09

"It may have taken two weeks longer than Red Hat would have liked"

Someone is being ironic here (after the Vista launch).

As Shakespeare might perhaps have said: "Methinks thou does protest too MUCH"!

RE: Made me laugh anyway
by thebackwash on Wed 7th Mar 2007 15:16 UTC in reply to "Made me laugh anyway"
thebackwash Member since:
2005-07-06

As Shakespeare might perhaps have said: "Methinks thou does protest too MUCH"!

[archaic english grammar nazi]
Actually, he would have said, "Methinks thou dost protest too much." ;)
[/archaic]

at last
by frood on Tue 6th Mar 2007 16:57 UTC
frood
Member since:
2005-07-06

I've been looking forward to this. It's getting harder to install esp. CentOS onto newer hardware in my experience. A newer kernel will come in handy.

RE: at last
by Don T. Bothers on Tue 6th Mar 2007 19:00 UTC in reply to "at last"
Don T. Bothers Member since:
2006-03-15

You should not have any trouble installing CentOS on newer hardware. RedHat backports the majority of drivers and support for newer hardware. In fact, RedHat is just about to release RHEL 4.5, which would mean you would be able to install CentOS on the latest hardware when it shortly follows.