Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Sep 2007 12:49 UTC, submitted by AdamW
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris "In less than two weeks time, six months after the great Mandriva 2007.1 Spring release, Mandriva 2008.0 will be ready and published. Currently, Release Candidate 2 is out, it's your last chance to test it and make sure everything is working before the final release! There were great ideas at the start of the development phase, and in in those six months that have passed, Mandriva has always been one of the most active projects on CIA.vc. This gives much hope for lots of improvements, so let's take a look at what can be expected from Mandriva 2008.0."
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custom laptop kernel?!
by hobgoblin on Wed 26th Sep 2007 13:37 UTC
hobgoblin
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2005-07-06

now thats impressive. and will probably go un-noticed by many users. the latter being a good thing imo.

i just wonder, could the same kernel be used on the desktop? and if so, what if any benefits would one get?

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RE: custom laptop kernel?!
by fretinator on Wed 26th Sep 2007 17:14 UTC in reply to "custom laptop kernel?!"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

i just wonder, could the same kernel be used on the desktop? and if so, what if any benefits would one get?


Lower power usage. I think we will start seeing more concern for the power usage of desktop - we aren't worried about batteries but who wants to pay more to the power company than you need to? I turned on frequency scaling on my Dell Core2 Duo desktop for that reason. When your processor has nothing to do, let it slow down. Unfortunately, it only scales between 1.6 and 1.8 Ghz. I wish it scaled more.

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RE[2]: custom laptop kernel?!
by hobgoblin on Wed 26th Sep 2007 20:11 UTC in reply to "RE: custom laptop kernel?!"
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

well, the speed decrease is less important then the watt decrease. if a modest decrease in Hz can result in a solid decrease in watt's used, then its all good imo ;)

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great
by KLU9 on Wed 26th Sep 2007 13:55 UTC
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2006-12-06

sounds very interesting. of special note to me:

The menu structure is much less nested now: all important applications can now be found directly under the main categories, while before they were nested two levels deep.

The horrendously over-complex menu has always been something that's bugged me about KDE. However it may prove irrelevant, as...

It's possible there will be a Mandriva One version which uses XFCE as its default desktop later.

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

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wow
by dukeinlondon on Wed 26th Sep 2007 14:51 UTC
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2005-07-06

Time for me to go back to mandriva (from opensuse) ? Well worth a spin from what I can tell.

It has to be the effect of the Ubuntu domination that the other desktop distros now give it a real push. May there be many winners.

Edited 2007-09-26 14:52

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RE: wow
by Anonymous Penguin on Wed 26th Sep 2007 15:16 UTC in reply to "wow"
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2005-07-06

Time for me to go back to mandriva (from opensuse) ? Well worth a spin from what I can tell.


I'll definitely give it a spin, although I don't believe that I'll leave openSUSE.
In any case I respect Mandriva a lot more now than when I had to move to SUSE and Libranet because of hardware compatibility issues.

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RE: wow
by mbkumar on Wed 26th Sep 2007 18:25 UTC in reply to "wow"
mbkumar Member since:
2006-06-28

I thought of switching to mandriva 2007.1 from opensuse, aftering using it for a couple of days. But after one update, everything broke down. And stability was the main criterion when I moved from Mandriva to SuSE

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RE[2]: wow
by jabbotts on Thu 27th Sep 2007 13:02 UTC in reply to "RE: wow"
jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Any more details on what broke? How did you run your update? I ask because I've now four Mandriva boxes running 2007.1 and non have had an issue with urpmi --auto-update including my workstation (the most complicated install of the bunch). I'd be interested to know what broke so I can keep an eye out for it on my own machines.

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Wow, spiffy
by madechidna on Wed 26th Sep 2007 15:43 UTC
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2006-01-03

I pretty much wrote off RPM based distros as a whole when Ubuntu first came out, but this looks really spiffy. I was a Mandrake user for a couple of years, and I might actually consider buying this when I upgrade my laptop!

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Mandriva should change their naming
by stephanem on Wed 26th Sep 2007 15:54 UTC
stephanem
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2006-01-11

It's still 2007!

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Have you bought a car lately? Or a sports game? (Madden 2008).

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..........
by islander on Wed 26th Sep 2007 18:05 UTC
islander
Member since:
2007-04-11

I cut my Linux teeth on Mandrake way back when it was version 8.2.

I had many ups and downs with Mandrake over the years but there is something that keeps me there.I learnt alot and currently 2007 is installed on my network server.2008 looking so good I dont think I will be straying from Mandriva anytime soon.

Congratulations team Mandriva and keep up the good work.

Edited 2007-09-26 18:06

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will the liveCD offer a custom isntall?
by jabbotts on Wed 26th Sep 2007 18:10 UTC
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Member since:
2007-09-06

I'm likely in the minority but I have a laptop with only a CD reader and, so far, badly supported wifi nic.

(Broadcom/Linksys, you sell hardware; please stop being a software lock-in tool and provide or let the FOSS world develop proper pcmcia 54gs drivers. Patents are a BS excuse.)

The 2007.1 liveCD recognizes the wifi but includes a load of stuff I don't want installed. The Free install DVD is out for lack of a DVD reader. The minimal boot disk for a network install is out due to that poorly supported wifi radio.

This limits me to using the livdCD One as an install base but that has it's own issues; config is different than DVD proper install, multitudes of extra crap installed, etc. I'd much rather mirror my usual install off the Free full install CD with it's custom package selection option.

Don't get me wrong. For where I need a liveCD with 95% of the software I use included; 2007.1 One is absalutely wonderful.

Anyone know if there will be a custom install option on the liveCD? Maybe 2007.1 One has a custom install option off the boot loader menu and I've simply been missing it?

Last, Thanks Mandriva. You offer an underapreciated distrobution. Urpmi and the drak tools are what keep me reinstalling with every new major release.

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AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

There's two other options. 2008 will have a 3-CD Free edition, you can use that. There's also the mini-CD, which you can use to install a minimal graphical system, set up your wireless card, then install the rest of the system with urpmi / rpmdrake.

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mind!dagger Member since:
2007-06-26

links?

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AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

links? to those ISOs?

well, 2008 isn't out yet, but for RC2, they are:

mandriva-linux-2008.0-free-rc2-CD1.i586.iso
mandriva-linux-2008.0-free-rc2-CD2.i586.iso
mandriva-linux-2008.0-free-rc2-CD3.i586.iso

and:

mandriva-linux-2008.0-freemini-rc2.dual.iso

in the /devel/iso/2008.0 directory of any mirror (see http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Development/RC... ).

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

Thank you,

I'll be eagerly watching for the final 2008 release. My server will have to wait until 2007.1 updates stop showing up weekly but I can never hold out on upgrading my workstation though my cf27 will be first in line.

Now to go keep an eye out on the repositories. ;)

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re
by netpython on Thu 27th Sep 2007 08:55 UTC
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Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm glad Mandriva includes now a MAC (AppArmor) mechanism. Earlier kernels where rsbac patched but not configured by default. Which i think is a dead bird because if you want rsbac patching a kernel is really the easiest part.

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scheduler
by superstoned on Thu 27th Sep 2007 13:53 UTC
superstoned
Member since:
2005-07-07

stupid me, ignore plzzz

Edited 2007-09-27 13:54

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Mandriva seems to look better now...
by Caraibes on Thu 27th Sep 2007 21:28 UTC
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2007-08-06

I plan on dual-booting my regular work-horse (Fedora) with the soon to come Mandriva 2008, as it seems to have a new feel... Something good about it... Hey, it's French, it can't be that bad !

I am a "die-hard" Gnome user, but was caressing the idea to go KDE... But it doesn't seem to be the right time, as the switch between v.3.5.x and v.4 might not be painless... Gnome 2.20 seems like the stable and reasonable choice... I shall try to remain Gnome only, with GnomeBaker and Rythmbox...

I'll do the same on my future install of F8 when it comes out, so I'll have a good ground to compare their respective feeling on the same PC...

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AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

it makes perfect sense to run GNOME on Mandriva, though we're often seen as a 'KDE' distro. personally I've always used GNOME, ever since starting with MDK back in 2001.

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