Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Jun 2008 22:27 UTC
Mac OS X At the Worldwide Developer Conference currently underway in San Fransisco, Apple unveiled some of the new features coming in Mac OS X Server 10.6, Snow Leopard. Of course the new release gets the same improvements as the client version, but in addition to those, there are a few server-specific features underway too.
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PowerPC
by ValiantSoul on Tue 10th Jun 2008 22:52 UTC
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But they STILL haven't answered if PowerPC is going to be supported or not! I've got a Quad 2.5GHz PowerMac G5 and don't feel its time for it to retire, does Apple?

RE: PowerPC
by vimh on Tue 10th Jun 2008 23:24 UTC in reply to "PowerPC"
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2006-02-04

I think a better way of looking at things is does your G5 meet your requirements? Does Snow Leopard offer anything that would make you more productive to the point where a hardware upgrade would be a good idea?

RE: PowerPC
by tyrione on Wed 11th Jun 2008 01:30 UTC in reply to "PowerPC"
tyrione Member since:
2005-11-21

But they STILL haven't answered if PowerPC is going to be supported or not! I've got a Quad 2.5GHz PowerMac G5 and don't feel its time for it to retire, does Apple?


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RE: PowerPC
by bousozoku on Wed 11th Jun 2008 05:16 UTC in reply to "PowerPC"
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2006-01-23

But they STILL haven't answered if PowerPC is going to be supported or not! I've got a Quad 2.5GHz PowerMac G5 and don't feel its time for it to retire, does Apple?


It's likely the PowerPC G5 series are the last of the PowerPC machines to be supported, even if they can't support the full 64-bit address space.

They probably won't answer the question until the last minute when they learn it for themselves.

RE[2]: PowerPC
by rorya on Wed 11th Jun 2008 09:12 UTC in reply to "RE: PowerPC"
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It's likely the PowerPC G5 series are the last of the PowerPC machines to be supported, even if they can't support the full 64-bit address space.


The PowerPC 970 (G5 in Apple parlance) does support both 32-bit and 64-bit Power ISA, so there shouldn't be any technical reasons why they couldn't. Supporting both 32-bit and 64-bit is actually quite a bit simpler on the 970, as it is able to switch between those modes on the fly.

Plus, 10.5 all ready supports a 64-bit Power runtime for userland, and so 10.6 just seems to be bringing 64-bit to the kernel as well.

RE[3]: PowerPC
by bousozoku on Wed 11th Jun 2008 16:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: PowerPC"
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2006-01-23

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It's likely the PowerPC G5 series are the last of the PowerPC machines to be supported, even if they can't support the full 64-bit address space.


The PowerPC 970 (G5 in Apple parlance) does support both 32-bit and 64-bit Power ISA, so there shouldn't be any technical reasons why they couldn't. Supporting both 32-bit and 64-bit is actually quite a bit simpler on the 970, as it is able to switch between those modes on the fly.

Plus, 10.5 all ready supports a 64-bit Power runtime for userland, and so 10.6 just seems to be bringing 64-bit to the kernel as well.
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Yes, the 970 and 970FX support both ISAs but they also support a 42-bit address space.

ZFS
by kernpanic on Tue 10th Jun 2008 23:08 UTC
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2008-03-15

So it seems ZFS is now official for Mac OS X server, is this the case for Snowleopard too?

v If a Tree Falls in the Forest...
by tomcat on Wed 11th Jun 2008 00:42 UTC
ZFS Boot Support
by asupcb on Wed 11th Jun 2008 01:18 UTC
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2005-11-10

I wonder if you'll be able to boot into ZFS? I further wonder if they will manage to make it to where a ZFS partition can be your primary partition?

Can storage be removed from a Z pool without risking data integrity such as an external hard drive?

Can ZFS be used with meta-data tagging or even a WinFS type metadata system?

RE: ZFS Boot Support
by Wes Felter on Wed 11th Jun 2008 02:45 UTC in reply to "ZFS Boot Support"
Wes Felter Member since:
2005-11-15

Can storage be removed from a Z pool without risking data integrity such as an external hard drive?


You probably shouldn't put internal and external drives into the same pool. I saw a slide claiming that the ability to remove disks will (finally) appear in Solaris in September. You'll be able to remove a disk as long as the free space in the pool is larger than the size of the disk.

Can ZFS be used with meta-data tagging or even a WinFS type metadata system?


ZFS supports extended attributes; it's no BeFS but AFAIK it's better than HFS+.

Server
by Windows Sucks on Thu 12th Jun 2008 19:28 UTC
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2005-11-10

Wonder if Apple will finally make 10.6 server installable on off the shelf Intel / AMD hardware. I like the Mac server but don't want to buy a Mac just for that. But I would buy the OS if I can put in on an HP or Dell server.

That would be sweet.

Also with all this 64 Bit talk, wonder how that is going to affect 32 bit apps. Is it going to be like some other 64 Bit OS's where it's all or nothing. Or will they have a run time like Rosetta that will allow 32 bit apps to run?