Linked by David Adams on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 16:57 UTC
In the News "The Japanese love those things!" That's what I've heard a lot of people say when I've talked to them about my latest obsession, the Coco 6035Re Bidet toilet seat. As part of OSNews' ongoing project, "Building The Wired Home," I wanted to try to see what the march of technological progress has brought to the bathroom, so we installed a bidet seat in OSNews' House of the Future. It turns out, I'm pretty impressed.
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Awesome!
by hibridmatthias on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 17:15 UTC
hibridmatthias
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2007-04-11

This article was awesome! And especially useful for those who need help flushing their heads out of their nether regions!

I dated a girl with a bidet in her house and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You really do feel cleaner than after you use paper....

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RE: Awesome!
by Nutela on Thu 24th Jul 2008 13:55 UTC in reply to "Awesome!"
Nutela Member since:
2006-02-09

++ Indeed, when you get used to a bidet, using only paper feels a step back. IIMC Arabs use only water to clean, saw that a day before yesterday in an Arab restaurant. I must say I miss it everywhere else then home!

If you have the space then a bidet with cold and warm water can also look nice, if you don't then there are 'mini-showers' with a regulator for hot/cold/amount of water and a button on/off which is be even better.

I speak from personal experience, 2 bathrooms, 2 systems in them and both are a step up.

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Nice article
by Pr3st00 on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 17:50 UTC
Pr3st00
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2005-12-02

Hey, nice article! I liked the piece where you classify people according to their "anal area and sphincter position".

I'm wondering which column I am... will take my mirror and find out when I get home today.

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RE: Nice article
by umccullough on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:48 UTC in reply to "Nice article"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

I'm wondering which column I am... will take my mirror and find out when I get home today.


I know as a fact that I'm a "Column B" guy as well... I can definitely relate to David's experience.

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RE[2]: Nice article
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Nice article"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Definitely column B here.

Ever heard of the flushing threshold? There's an x amount of toilet paper you can flush in one go, and feeding your toilet x+1 results in... Well, use your imagination.

Kinda sucks.

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RE[3]: Nice article
by null_pointer_us on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 19:37 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nice article"
null_pointer_us Member since:
2005-08-19

Kinda sucks.


(actually, it doesn't "suck" ;) )

These are really interesting, but I'd need some additional wiring.

I've been thinking about getting an electrician to come in and do a bunch of wall-fishing to hook up some new electrical jacks, ethernet, etc. because there are some areas in this house that I simply can't get to.

Does anyone know what it might cost to get someone out here for 1-2 hours? I'm in the U.S.A.

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RE[4]: Nice article
by David on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 20:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Nice article"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

It depends on whether you can find someone who will come work on an hourly "time and materials" basis and not try to charge you a high minimum or a big trip charge. My electrician charges $50-65 per hour. If you get a good electrician, they'll be able to fish the wires quite quickly, but it takes a lot of skill and special equipment, so it's really not a good DIY. Worth it to hire an expert.

The first house I owned only had one electrical outlet per room and that outlet was connected to the light switch. (Built in 1948) Luckily, it was built with a crawl space underneath, so I was able to run more outlets to each room when I bought the place.

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RE[3]: Nice article
by Karitku on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 19:50 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nice article"
Karitku Member since:
2006-01-12

If you seriously need to use that much toilet paper good fiber diet should do job. And to be most eco you just wipe with hand. Keep mind that fresh water is going to be next reason for war, atleast according to "experts".

But seriously try eating more fibers it should solve muzzle problem :p.

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RE[3]: Nice article
by umccullough on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 20:21 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Nice article"
umccullough Member since:
2006-01-26

Ever heard of the flushing threshold? There's an x amount of toilet paper you can flush in one go, and feeding your toilet x+1 results in... Well, use your imagination.


Yeah... we have two different toilets in the house, one being newer (the renovated bathroom) and one being older.

I have to use the older one because I constantly plug the newer one somehow.

It sometimes takes 3 or 4 flushes before I'm "finished". ;)

Edit: I'm sure if my wife ever reads these comments, she's gonna laugh.

Edited 2008-07-23 20:22 UTC

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Wow
by Tom K on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:00 UTC
Tom K
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2005-07-06

I never thought I'd see the words "anal" and "sphincter" in an OSnews article -- ever.

Interesting review. :-P

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RE: Wow
by David on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 19:02 UTC in reply to "Wow"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

In an article, maybe not, but in a comment, definitely :-)

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RE: Wow
by rhyder on Thu 24th Jul 2008 00:25 UTC in reply to "Wow"
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

How many times... They HAVE to cover the new developments at Microsoft too! ;-)

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gobsmacked....
by robinh on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:01 UTC
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2006-12-19

After reading TFA, the words "global warming" keep spinning round in my mind. Fast forward 50 years, and imagine a conversation you're having with a future child / grandchild:

Offspring : Why were people in your time so greedy - they could have saved the planet by using less energy?

Me/You : Dunno sweetie, but on the plus side, I had an electronic toilet seat....

Seriously, though...... WHY?????!!!!?!?

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hmm...
by looncraz on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:31 UTC
looncraz
Member since:
2005-07-24

I can see the headlines now...

"New Bidet OS Wars"
"Man Still Dirty After Harrowing MS-Bidet BSOD"
"Haiku - The New Bidet OS King"
"'Anal' Bidet Virus Spreads"
"Bidet Software Crash Scolds Child, Parents Told They Cannot Sue"
"Man Commits Suicide After Bidet HIV False-Positive"

hmm... I like this topic :-)

Nice article, I'm just interested to see how many prudes decide to comment.

--The loon

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no wiring...
by umccullough on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:43 UTC
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

Aw man, and to think this shows up after just recently renovating one of my bathrooms...

It had *never* occurred to me that there might actually be a good reason to put an outlet next to my toilet.

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Nice
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 18:45 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

I SO want to visit David after reading this stuff.

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These things are great
by Clinton on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 19:36 UTC
Clinton
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2005-07-05

I lived in Japan back in the 80s and I used to think it was funny to go to appliance stores and see displays of toilets all shooting water up like a fountain.

These bidet seats used to be something you'd only see in people's homes, but when I went to Japan last year, many of the public restrooms had them too.

I'm glad to see them marketed to some degree in the U.S., where I currently live. I think they are much more hygienic than paper alone.

I guess if you don't have one, you could always use a wet shower curtain or the sink though. ;)

Edited 2008-07-23 19:36 UTC

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RE: These things are great
by MamiyaOtaru on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 20:49 UTC in reply to "These things are great"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

"I think they are much more hygienic than paper alone."

Am I the only one who runs a bit of toilet paper under the sink? I mean, does everyone else really use "paper alone"? Dampened paper works wonders, without needing to shoot a jet of water up your rear.

And I'd like to add my voice saying I never thought I'd be discussing this at OSNews ;)

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Common in Europe
by Gryzor on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 19:58 UTC
Gryzor
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2005-07-03

I lived in South America and we had bidets in almost every bathroom. Now I live in Spain and it's very common to see bidets, but analog ones. No electronic or fancy remote control.

I couldn't live without one.

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More
by vijayd81 on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 20:12 UTC
vijayd81
Member since:
2008-07-18

Even though the article is gross and weird, it was a fun read. I would love to see more articles like this (fun new technologies)

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Only gross and weird if you are an American
by Sabon on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 20:30 UTC
Sabon
Member since:
2005-07-06

"Even though the article is gross and weird"

Only in our backward part of the world is this true. In most of this world human waste is just that and not dwelt on in negative ways. It's just something you have to get rid of once in awhile and there are good ways and bad ways to do this as well as good and bad ways to clean yourself.

Notice how people take showers and baths instead of using wood based products to clean themselves with. In most places you don't even use wood based products to dry yourself, which is different than cleaning yourself.

Don't get me started on hypocritical conservatives when it comes to nudity and perversions.

I live in the Seattle, WA area and not in Europe. I'm not a nudist. If I were I wouldn't live in Seattle.

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UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

Any time I even think of how those things might work, I can't imagine them spraying the A-hole dead-on, as intended. On the other hand, I can imagine those things spraying the nut sack as a result of missing the hole.

On a side note, this was one of the stupidest articles I've ever read on OSNews. Maybe you should start up a new site--ToiletNews.com?

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Sabon Member since:
2005-07-06

And yet you read it and replied to it. He gave you, in writing, at least two times to click on the back button and yet you didn't. So what is stupid...?

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

And yet you read it and replied to it. He gave you, in writing, at least two times to click on the back button and yet you didn't. So what is stupid...?

I read it thinking maybe, in its own way, it would be an interesting article--yes, even forgetting the name of this site. If it was the slightest bit interesting, I wouldn't mind this being on OSNews as much... but no. Maybe a little (good) humor thrown in would've gone a long way, but no... TP vs. water for cleaning your ass... woohoo. This article would probably even bore Beavis.

By the way--I only read maybe halfway before realizing it was a waste of time. Now, I'm done in this thread. Enough time wasted.

Edited 2008-07-23 23:03 UTC

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laserface Member since:
2008-04-07

"I can't imagine them spraying the A-hole dead-on, as intended. On the other hand, I can imagine those things spraying the nut sack as a result of missing the hole."

Yeah, really.

I can imagine thinking in the morning, "Well, if I wasn't awake before... I sure as hell am now" Jesus. I know the way we do things in the US is pretty backwards and stupid, but using a bidet would definitely take a while to get used to.

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David Member since:
1997-10-01

The position of the spray is adjustable with the remote control.

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

On a side note, this was one of the stupidest articles I've ever read on OSNews.


"/bin/english: stuipdest: word not found"

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Poor-man's alternative
by dmdavis on Wed 23rd Jul 2008 22:47 UTC
dmdavis
Member since:
2005-07-06

For those in "column B" according to the article, but not willing to drop the cash necessary to get a bidet, flushable wipes are wonderful. They're like wipes you use on babies, except a) they're flushable (duh) and b) they are not just geared towards children. As a column B man myself, I keep a pack at work and I feel much cleaner then I ever did before. ;) Some day, though, I'll upgrade to the bidet. If I can convince my wife.

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OT: Bidets
by StephenBeDoper on Thu 24th Jul 2008 05:50 UTC
StephenBeDoper
Member since:
2005-07-06

The article's topic reminds me of something funny-but-OT. Back in the 12th grade, I took a building design course - while doing the floor plans, we used stencils that had icons for stuff like doors, toilets, etc.

Oddly enough, there was also an icon in the stencil that we didn't recognize; someone asked the teacher and was told that it was a bidet. Being high school students in a rural area, none of us had the slightest clue what a bidet was. And, also due to the fact that we were high school students, we of course found the idea hilarious once the teacher told us what bidets were.

The resulting silliness should be easy enough to imagine. E.g., one of my fellow students made a draft floor plan that contained a "bidet room" (in place of the living room) with, of course, a row of bidets where the couch would normally go, etc.

Ah, memories...

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