Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Feb 2009 09:59 UTC, submitted by Anne
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The beta release of Mandriva Linux 2009 Spring (code name Margaux) is now available. This beta version provides some updates on major desktop components of the distribution, including KDE 4.2.0, GNOME 2.25.90, Xfce 4.6 RC1, X.org server 1.5, OpenOffice.Org 3.0.1, qt 4.5.0 (RC1). This Beta version proposes step 1 of Speedboot. This should improve your boot time. It's not enabled by default. To test it, enter speedboot keyword at boot time. You can use Bootchart to test precisely effects on your boot time.
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KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?
by adundovi on Fri 13th Feb 2009 10:45 UTC
adundovi
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2009-02-13

KDE 4.2.0 and Qt 4.5.0 is not so good idea according to KDE devs: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/02/plasma-qt-45-tokamak-etc.html

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RE: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?
by tomd on Fri 13th Feb 2009 14:01 UTC in reply to "KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?"
tomd Member since:
2006-10-16

and it is a good idea according to QT devs:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/02/10/why-kde-42-should-use-qt...

Tom

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RE[2]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?
by elsewhere on Sat 14th Feb 2009 05:53 UTC in reply to "RE: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

I'm using 4.2 with Qt 4.5, it's the smoothest and most responsive version of KDE4 I've used yet.

I'm a little disappointed in general with KDE advising against shipping Qt 4.5. They consciously chose not to test against 4.5 during the 4.2 cycle, and the workarounds they implemented for 4.4 are biting them in some isolated cases. Granted 4.5 was not RC by the time 4.2 hit freeze, but given the timing, it was reasonable to expect that distros would be shipping 4.5 during the time 4.2 was out. Qt isn't exclusive to KDE, so I'm not sure the KDE team is putting distros in a fair position by asking them to withhold Qt 4.5, it seems to be a significant upgrade that could benefit Qt-based but non-KDE apps.

Hopefully this will shake out positively one way or the other, but I think it's much ado about nothing from my personal experience with it. On the plus side, with Qt opening up development as of 4.5, the need for the KDE devs to use patches and workarounds such as qt-copy should ideally be reduced, and issues like this should not occur.

Just my 2c...

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RE[3]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?
by sbergman27 on Sat 14th Feb 2009 06:30 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Qt isn't exclusive to KDE, so I'm not sure the KDE team is putting distros in a fair position by asking them to withhold Qt 4.5,

This is nothing new. My impression of the KDE devs has long been that they think that it's all about them. They work on KDE for fun. And nothing outside of KDE really matters. Now we see that QT is also included in that mindset. It is interesting, but not particularly surprising.

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RE[3]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?
by renox on Sat 14th Feb 2009 13:25 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: KDE 4.2 and Qt 4.5?"
renox Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm a little disappointed in general with KDE advising against shipping Qt 4.5.

Why? They have developed and tested against Qt 4.4, they plan to develop and test against Qt4.5 with KDE4.3, what's so urgent about using Qt4.5?


They consciously chose not to test against 4.5 during the 4.2 cycle

I'd argue that this is a wise decision: don't try to do several thing at the same time, you'll waste efforts.


Qt isn't exclusive to KDE, so I'm not sure the KDE team is putting distros in a fair position by asking them to withhold Qt 4.5


Well maybe they could ship ensuring that KDE use Qt4.4 and install Qt4.5 aside also for those other applications who are such in hurry to use Qt4.5.

I doubt that the end result will be positive!
Remember some distributions even put alpha software (KDE4.0) as their default KDE desktop to be able to bragg that they're using the latest software, so it's quite likely some distributions will ship KDE4.2 and Qt4.5 even if there are bugs..

The only positive side is that it's easy for users to detect these kind of distributions and select distribution who care about software maturity/stability in their default install.

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Comment by satan666
by satan666 on Fri 13th Feb 2009 13:58 UTC
satan666
Member since:
2008-04-18

I've been using Mandriva 2009.1 since alpha (with KDE 4.2) and it is really stable. If you want a nice KDE 4.2 desktop Mandriva is just what you need.

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I miss AdamW
by davidiwharper on Sat 14th Feb 2009 02:23 UTC
davidiwharper
Member since:
2006-01-01

Those release notes read like poorly translated French... which they are ;)

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RE: I miss AdamW
by glyj on Sat 14th Feb 2009 18:46 UTC in reply to "I miss AdamW"
glyj Member since:
2007-04-06

If I was good at writing english, I'd love to correct those notes. But, I'm not, I'm afraid :-(

glyj

PS: I didn't wrote these...

PPS: Every registered member of the community has rights to change the wiki's pages.

Edited 2009-02-14 18:48 UTC

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RE[2]: I miss AdamW
by raver31 on Sun 15th Feb 2009 07:41 UTC in reply to "RE: I miss AdamW"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

I don't think the other person was making fun of your language skills, or of the translation itself.

I think it was a general joke.

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Using it now....
by raver31 on Sun 15th Feb 2009 15:13 UTC
raver31
Member since:
2005-07-06

It appears to be more snappier than Ubuntu 8.10, and it also appears faster than Mandriva 2008.

But, I don't like the fact it set up the update servers onto Cooker.

I know it is still a beta, but hopefully when it is ready for release, the update locations will change and take it off Cooker.

It is running fine, and the problem I had with rt2500 wireless appears to be fixed ;)

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