Linked by Adam S on Thu 12th Mar 2009 17:02 UTC
Apple Engadget reports that Apple will be detailing iPhone 0S 3.0 at a March 17 event. Because the event is being billed as an "advance preview," it's unlikely we'll see the new OS for some time, however, across the internet, hopes are high that the new OS will include many of the most commonly requested features, such as cut and paste, MMS, A2DP, Push notifications, and background tasks.
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Comment by Eagle101
by Eagle101 on Thu 12th Mar 2009 17:09 UTC
Eagle101
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2007-03-07

You guys really think Apple has just been sitting down and doing nothing?

Also, the title of this article is misleading. It is NOT coming on March 17th, it is being PREVIEWED on March 17th.

later

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Snow Leopard + iPhone OS 3.0
by NathanHill on Thu 12th Mar 2009 17:13 UTC
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Member since:
2006-10-06

Is there a connection between the two here? The last article about Snow Leopard suggested it was picking up features that the iPhone OS had - will it be going in the other direction too?

I'm curious - this looks interesting.

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Push Notification
by tonywob on Thu 12th Mar 2009 17:36 UTC
tonywob
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2005-07-06

Here's to hoping that we'll hear something about the long awaited push notification :-)

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RE: Push Notification
by Kroc on Thu 12th Mar 2009 18:23 UTC in reply to "Push Notification"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Push is so 1999! The future is Lateral notification. It says it’s coming, doesn’t arrive, and then by the time you’ve forgotten about it it appears out of nowhere singing it’s own praises.

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RE: Push Notification
by martingumucio on Mon 16th Mar 2009 12:32 UTC in reply to "Push Notification"
martingumucio Member since:
2006-06-22

Used with an Exchange server it pushes events and mail fantastically well.

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v Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Thu 12th Mar 2009 18:21 UTC
Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Thu 12th Mar 2009 18:26 UTC
Kroc
Member since:
2005-11-10

Lack of Flash an ‘atrocity’? The teenage gunman this week was an atrocity, not a piece of software that is an ‘atrocity’ itself. The iPhone, and the web as a whole, is all the better off without Flash.

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by darknexus on Thu 12th Mar 2009 18:34 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Well, flash has its place. Better that than being stuck with Silverlight as our only option. It's just too bad flash has been so misused, there is no reason for a page's navigation menu to be written in Flash, for example, nor is there any purpose to having the content of a page be flash-based unless it is video or interactive content. None at all.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Thu 12th Mar 2009 18:39 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

IMO Flash should be a glorified <img> replacement, nothing more. I’m not discounting the technology (it was key in the 1996-2000 period). However, I think beyond cartoons the standards have everything else covered now.

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RE[3]: Comment by Kroc
by -pekr- on Thu 12th Mar 2009 22:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Kroc"
-pekr- Member since:
2006-03-28

Ha ha, "standards", right? Some 5 - 7 years ago, some guys still turned off JS. What is web without JS nowadays? Well, it is patched stuff over another patched stuff. So called AJAX saved web. Right - some JS libraries are hundred of KBs of crap, to delude users into thinking, they have real-time RIA :-) Wait, it is still not fast enough, even on super duper HW? OK, let's produce new browsers with new ultra cool JS engines, which are x times faster, but still not fast enough? :-)

So, before you dismiss Flash or another compact technology, just try to answer yourself, if those "standards" really have everything covered ...

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RE: Comment by Kroc
by Adam S on Thu 12th Mar 2009 20:58 UTC in reply to "Comment by Kroc"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

Poor word choice. I meant lack of MMS being ridiculous. Every phone since the late 90s has had this capability.

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RE[2]: Comment by Kroc
by Kroc on Thu 12th Mar 2009 21:03 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Kroc"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Oh definitely, yah. I thought carriers and handset manufacturers were stubborn and irresponsible when Bluetooth took 2-3 years to even get off the ground, but Apple definitely takes the cake.

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Flash? No thanks...
by FellowConspirator on Thu 12th Mar 2009 19:38 UTC
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2007-12-13

I would just assume they forgo Flash. There's just all sorts of problems with Flash, not the least of which being that it can torpedo both battery performance and bandwidth availability on something running off tiny batteries with a lackluster 3G network for it to ride on.

If you're using it for video content, just use the video. If you're using it for dynamic graphical elements, use a canvas or SVG.

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RE: Flash? No thanks...
by darknexus on Thu 12th Mar 2009 19:48 UTC in reply to "Flash? No thanks..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Trouble with the video tag is the codec problem, i.e. you don't know what codec the video will necessarily be in or whether your running browser will support it. Theora was supposed to be adopted as the standard, but as far as I know that hasn't actually happened, and Theora doesn't really seem to be going anywhere. And then of course, Apple chose not to support it, so Theora probably won't be running on the iPhone any time soon. H.264 is riddled with patents, making it unlikely to be adopted as the standard (though it'll probably end up being the most used anyway). Dirac shows promise, perhaps that will become standard.
This is one thing you don't have to worry about with Flash, as long as you have Flash installed correctly the video will play. Right now, that's its biggest strength, while it limits the compatibility to operating systems that have a flash player it usually works about the same on all of them. Doesn't change the fact that it's a buggy piece of crap, but it's more universal right now than anything else.

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RE[2]: Flash? No thanks...
by kepardue on Tue 17th Mar 2009 21:36 UTC in reply to "RE: Flash? No thanks..."
kepardue Member since:
2009-03-17

It's a bit unfair to say that Theora is going nowhere. Mozilla just inveted $100k into the development of it, and WikiMedia favors Theora above all else. Those two items alone make Theora something worth considering.

Now, Theora support on the iPhone, on the other hand... I agree, not happening any time soon.

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Comment by pcunite
by pcunite on Fri 13th Mar 2009 00:22 UTC
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Member since:
2008-08-26

If the iPhone OS was everything it should be it can not replace the tactile feel of a real keyboard. Clutching my BlackBerry ;)

Edited 2009-03-13 00:23 UTC

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RE: Comment by pcunite
by KevinM on Sat 14th Mar 2009 16:12 UTC in reply to "Comment by pcunite"
KevinM Member since:
2005-07-08

If the iPhone OS was everything it should be it can not replace the tactile feel of a real keyboard. Clutching my BlackBerry ;)


only using a very generous definition of the word real

KM

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a2dp
by martingumucio on Mon 16th Mar 2009 12:34 UTC
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Member since:
2006-06-22

I can't believe it doesn't support A2DP, everything else I can forgive. Please please 3.0 save me!

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