Star ODF, Net Apps, Netbooks Will Invigorate the OS Landscape
Linked by David Adams on Tue 12th May 2009 15:03 UTC
Web 2.0 This week I received a triumphal press release from the Open Document Foundation, announcing that the just-released Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 has native support for the ODF (Open Document Format) file format. This makes the latest MS Office "the last major office suite to support ODF." This set me to thinking about how movement and advancement in several areas of technology and interoperability may well invigorate the alternative OS world.
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Win2k7 SP2?
by adkilla on Tue 12th May 2009 15:40 UTC
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2005-07-07

Could the OP please correct that? Are you guys referring to Windoze Vista? Then please use Vista not Windows 2007.

I would not put it past MS to just sit idly. Lets just hope they do not counter this goodwill with EEE.

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Edited 2009-05-12 15:43 UTC

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RE: Win2k7 SP2?
by David on Tue 12th May 2009 16:15 UTC in reply to "Win2k7 SP2?"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

Thanks for noticing that. I'm talking about Office, not Windows. It's corrrected.

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Save the cork
by sbergman27 on Tue 12th May 2009 16:22 UTC
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This week I received a triumphal press release from the Open Document Foundation, announcing that the just-released Microsoft Office 2007 SP2 has native support for the ODF (Open Document Format) file format.

Perhaps we should not break out the champagne just yet:

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05/update-on-odf-spreadsheet.html

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RE: Save the cork
by smashIt on Tue 12th May 2009 16:38 UTC in reply to "Save the cork"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

yes, save the cork
but not because of microsoft

the odf-spec is incomplete and unprecise (especialy when dealing with spreadsheets)
this will probably change with 1.2 but for now we are stuck with a html-revival of the worst kind

Edited 2009-05-12 16:38 UTC

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RE[2]: Save the cork
by kaiwai on Wed 13th May 2009 03:12 UTC in reply to "RE: Save the cork"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

yes, save the cork
but not because of microsoft

the odf-spec is incomplete and unprecise (especialy when dealing with spreadsheets)
this will probably change with 1.2 but for now we are stuck with a html-revival of the worst kind


Unfortunately so - but it doesn't help when Microsoft talks about supporting ODF but unwilling to roll up their sleeves and work with the OASIS group to get these short comings sorted out. Microsoft reminds me very much of the politician who bad mouths an oppositions idea but never proposing an alternative and rolling up their sleeves to work with the government on the idea.

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RE[3]: Save the cork
by smashIt on Wed 13th May 2009 10:36 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Save the cork"
smashIt Member since:
2005-07-06

Microsoft reminds me very much of the politician who bad mouths an oppositions idea but never proposing an alternative


but ms has
it's called ooxml

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RE[4]: Save the cork
by 1c3d0g on Thu 14th May 2009 03:32 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Save the cork"
1c3d0g Member since:
2005-07-06

No, that's their own shitty implementation of a supposedly "open" format, which - by the way - corrupted and bribed its way in many countries to become an ISO "standard" (I won't go into the nasty details as, unless you've been living in a cave for the past year or so, you can find references everywhere on the Internet over this mess).

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Moocha
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2005-07-06

Example:

> The rise of XML as a lingua-franca for inter-machine communication has enabled the internet as we know it

... what?

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

html -> xhtml -> xml -> sgml

I would say that mark-up languages in general, used in web pages as well as web-services, have enabled the web as we know it. I think that is the point.

Otherwise, we might still be gophering .txt files!

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

XML, HTML, SVG, JSON, WDSL, SOAP, XML-RPC is just text, let's be honest. And let's keep it that way. Text does work quiet well, it's fairly simple and efficient in most incarnations. You can compress it pretty good when needed.

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Moocha Member since:
2005-07-06

Nono, David Adams was definitely talking about XML - read the quote in context. And even in context it's complete BS.

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