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It kinda sucks though. I was counting on that backdoor for my upper class hookers to get in.

Now I need to evaluate my plan for world domination.

I was wondering if, perhaps, they had gotten to him first, "persuading" him to issue this cover story in order to secure that avenue of attack. I'm not sure how much autonomy your operatives are given.

Edited 2009-09-29 22:47 UTC

To quote 'The Doors' - you're a 'back door man' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf3KG8VAtJg )

What you just said made no sense, if he thought OS X had a backdoor because he heard from some source that he can't even remember right now it means he didn't have enough real proof in the first place.

That is ok though in the world of RMS, where you can say whatever ridiculous, unsubstantiated thing you want and eat things from between your toes :-)

No, it make perfect sense to go back on your word and apologize when you believed sometyhing to be true in the past, you now know is false in the present. That's what grown up do ... Maybe is proof pointed at something else and he made a mistake in calling it a backdoor when it's a front door for Apple to upload new software.

The problem here is sbergman27 attack/lie/ make up stuff as an anonymous coward, all the time about RMS, when is real problem is with what he does namely Free Software and not compromise to the will and demand of Open Source people.

There is no world of RMS, we all live in the same world, and RMS as just decided to be the Free Software front man. So far RMS as been honest and right on almost evrything he as said, some people namely sbergman27 disagree with that entirely, but offer no real proof as to RMS being wrong and attribute lies and put words and action that RMS would never do as it's not in his character.

Namely F.U.D, as I pointed out clearly well, except for those who lack a brain, if is former intent was to F.U.D. then appologizing for something he said in the past that was attacking, something sbergman27 believe to be an enemy of RMS in is twisted world then it would make no sense to appologize now, would it ? answer is no ...

Hence sbergman27 as become is own worst nightmar as he prooved and become himself the one to proove it, that RMS was right and a better men that he is trying to lie and portray him to be.

RMS is apologizing, here. He's admitting error. Let's give him at least a little credit for that. I mean, dammit, people, apparently the man can't win for loosing, if he admits error and apologizes, you guys whine that the ever said anything in the first place...

spending an entire month claiming that FEMA was planning on setting up concentration camps, his "evidence" of which boiled down to, "I can't disprove it!"

But, but, how can you not believe that with evidence as good as this ( http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59023/pg1 )?

I heard Stallman kills puppies to harvest electricity to power the fsf. You can quote me and post it on the front page as news.

I won't believe you until you produce a long form birth certificate of one of these puppies..

I think FSJ has a term for folks like stallman... what is it, oh yes.. freetards

Never mind the flying pigs, though. It's just Roger Waters giving a great concert...again.

It does sound like he's been threatened in some way by someone in a shiny white suit and a glowing apple in the middle.

It actually reads like it was written by a lawyer.

And what, exactly, were those sexiest comments? Understand that I can't say I'm expecting much. ;-)

http://www.osnews.com/story/21803/Richard_Stallman_s_Possibly_Sexis...

Would it be okay if he took back his least-sexy comments instead?

Unfortunately Stallman is like watching a car crash in slow motion - you want to look away and yet you can't help but stare at the carnage that is about to unfold.

Like any leader of any group; he doesn't know when to step aside and keep quiet. He will eventually say something that is so stupid that it'll permanently disgrace FSF. What he is saying now is just strange and kooky but this is simply the beginning of a long road which will end up at a destination that even his supporters will shocked about.

No big deal. The dude screwed up once more, but this time he at least apologized. Maybe those pills are making effect?

Are the pill ingredients licensed under GPL v3?

Ralph Nader

You know what might happen? He will start to follow Jesus. That would be a miracle then!

What's this "eventually" that you speak of? Stallman is a cocksack, and everything he's ever said is idiotic tripe. Only fools believe he has anything worthwhile to say.

No, we are kicking him because he isn't doing his cause any good with his behavior the last few years, he has become reactionary, unreasonable, and not a little bit crazy.

It's never good when the leaders of a movement lose touch with it's members, but he just keeps getting more extreme.

Come on, the man is attacked because he puts his fingers in the nose or things similar to that. At the same time, Apple is praised by the community for pillaging and locking down open source software. Give them 5 more years and people will think they invented open source.
The guy may need shaving, but his view is sharp and those making fun of him should listen instead.

RMS is a dinosaur in the literary term of the word. He has became a Liberal Conservative. (Liberal in terms of politics) (Conserservative in terms he is no longer flexible to change)

When he was at the best he was being truely liberal saying Yes I see the problem this is what I think is the solution.

Now he has changed by going no this is bad that is bad. Nothing is the way it should be.

If he was truly still sharp he would work on fixing the GPL to a direction different from his original vision, as the times has changed and so has the nature of Open Source. Ok finding the problems but then coming with solutions for them other then just stating anyone who disagrees with him is an evil corporate monger.

Well, liberal and conservative don't mean the same thing outside the US. Actually they are the same thing outside the US (and probably inside the US too, but don't tell them).
Anyway, I believe you just don't get the man. He's involved in free software and not so much in open source. His solution involves writing and recommending to use free software.
The problem is that some corporations don't like it and are making everything they can to block him. When Apple pushes updates to stop pyMusique from working, people applause. When RMS says it's bad, fools cry that the man is mad. Apple is not a man, it has no soul. How come people feel the need to defend it, no matter how wrong it is? Too much propaganda?

he's attacked because he is a fanatic, AND he is a dick about it, AND has been trolling the internet for a very long time now.

And RMS did not invent open source, ESR did. RMS is against open source.

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ESR said that the Open Source term came out of meetings he was a part of when consulting with netscape on how to open their source code. If I'm wrong about it, thats why, and I would love to be corrected.

Regarding open source, he may not be against it, but he sure isn't for it, and hates it when people use free software and open source as synonyms, since to him, open source completely misses the point.

ok then.

here is what the FSF think about open source, as a term:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

So they prefer using the term free software instead of open source. They think it refers to something close though.

Maybe, but it is HIS movement. Its one thing to say that to some random follower. But it really doesn't stick to the man who single handedly started the organization. It would be like criticizing Jesus for not following the teachings of the bible.

The concepts of opensource and free software predate RMS. Google the history of Unix, you'll see a rich history of code sharing.

And just because he started the movement does not mean that he has not become unstable, inflexible and mean.

Indeed, but just because he eats strange things and apologizes after making an error does not mean he has become unstable, inflexible and mean.
All I see here is people taking cheap shot at him for little things nobody should care about while discarding the important things he says.

He's inflexible because he can't seem to grasp that if you have the freedom to free your code, then you also have the freedom to close it. He says you have certain rights, but simultaneously takes your right to choose away from you.

He cannot see the reality of the situation, that developers also have the right to release their software in any form they chose, they have the right to get paid for their work, and honestly, all the donations in the world will not help FOSS feed all the developers in the world or their families.

Proprietary software also has a place in the world, and RMS refuses to see that. I use a mix of FOSS and closed source software, choosing whatever does the job the best.

That's true freedom, the freedom to choose.

Do a google search, and you'll see that RMS has been doing more harm then good for several years.

Right, so you don't agree with him. He has been saying the same thing for more than the last years though. He's been saying that since 1984 at least. There is nothing new here. The man still believe what he believed in 1984. The movement he started with others was just about that: free software, as defined by the FSF. It's his movement and the FSF is all about free software. He is not doing anything wrong by saying what the FSF stands for. He may not convince you but you are against the core principle of the FSF and nothing will convince you that the FSF is right anyway, be it RMS or anybody.
So the man did nothing wrong. You just don't agree with him. By all means, say it, but attacking the man personally is low in my opinion. You are not doing your cause any good.

Whoa there buddy, back the hell up. Don't tell me what I agree with and what I don't. I agree with FOSS in principle, but I know there are practical limitations to what FOSS can accomplish at this time.

I disagree with RMS, however, in his remarks about women in programming(horrifically backwards), his treatment of apple in this whole backdoor thing, his total condemnation of closed source software (some closed source software is very good, and his attempts to take my choice away.

I will choose to use the best tool for the job, and if that happens to be closed source, then until there is a comparable FOSS tool, then give me the closed source.

The man has done a lot wrong, imo, that damages the movement as a whole. As a representative of that movement (which I do support), I believe he is to reactionary, to literal and too inflexible to be a good leader, and should step aside. This is not a personal attack, but as somebody who hopes that FOSS succeeds in the long run, I hope he goes away soon, or at least calms the hell down.

What he said. It's like every time somebody uses a program for which they do not have access to the source code, God kills a puppy.

Part of what defines freedom for me personally is having the freedom to use closed-source software if I want to. So, in my mind, this guy is not a freedom fighter. He is a loon.

I recommend you read it fully because it explains precisely what is wrong with MacOS X.
The wise man shows the moon with his finger and the fools watch the finger. Fools are busy criticizing a man instead of listening to what he says.

...and morons don't realize he's not pointing at the moon, he's pointing at a barn. because he's obviously crazy.

Hey, if one's watching just the finger, it's not unexpected that one thinks he's pointing at a barn...



Edited 2009-09-30 15:53 UTC

he may be pointing out things that are wrong with OSX, some points are valid.

The purposeof the article however was to appologise for making false, baseless claims.

MAYBE thats not the best platform...

The man is not apologizing to Apple! He is apologizing to you for making false claims about Apple. Nobody need to apologize anything to Apple! It's just a mindless corporation.
The man's apologizing to you for saying something wrong. Then he goes on to warn you about other problems with Apple so you are not mistaken about them. I believe this is just the right place to do it.

You are mislead if you really believe what you wrote. Just because you lack the knowledge to make use of a freedom, doesn't mean that the freedom is useless. I can't change the engine in my car, but I enjoy the freedom that I can take it to a garage and have pretty much whatever mods done that I want. The difference between OSX and Windows and Linux, is that the law prevents you from tinkering with OSX and Windows. Nothing prevents me from tinkering with Linux.

It doesn't matter what the law allows if I, personally, can't take advantage of it. People like me out number people that can in like millions to 1.

Because you lack the technical skills to modify software does not mean that others lack the technical skills to modify (and improve) software.

You (probably) owe a lot to many open-source software projects -- projects that are themselves amalgamations of lots of individually small, possibly one-off contributions of many developers. Even if you do not use these projects personally, they are creating competitive markets and spurring innovation, a thing that you do benefit from. Had there been no FreeBSD, there would not be an OS X now; had there not been an OS X, we'd all still be using Windows XP, and there would be no Vista or Win7. Had there been no FireFox, we'd all still be using IE6, and the web would me much different. So just because you, personally, do not have the technical skills to easily mold Open Source programs into what you want them to be, do not assume that you're not any better off for those projects being out there, or for all the effort that other, technically skilled people have been putting into them.