Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Oct 2010 22:53 UTC, submitted by igalmarino
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Today we are announcing the project release of MeeGo 1.1. It provides a solid baseline for device vendors and developers to start creating software for various device categories on Intel Atom and ARMv7 architectures."
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Comment by molnarcs
by molnarcs on Fri 29th Oct 2010 05:39 UTC
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Wonder when they'll add NVIDIA ION (2) support - or does anybody know if it's possible to add it from NVIDIA? I'd love to try this on my ASUS netbook...

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I've lost interest in meego.
by lemur2 on Fri 29th Oct 2010 05:45 UTC
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Meego 1.1 includes Mono version 2.6.3.

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=meego

I've lost interest in it. They are barking up the wrong tree, IMO. It seems to me like almost an open invitation to Microsoft to sue any OEM who brings out a Meego-based device.

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RE: I've lost interest in meego.
by vivainio on Fri 29th Oct 2010 06:52 UTC in reply to "I've lost interest in meego."
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2008-12-26

Meego 1.1 includes Mono version 2.6.3.


Mono is not part of MeeGo spec. It's unlikely that Mono will be in non-netbook MeeGo instances (that don't use banshee).

It's not a big deal. Java appears to be even riskier than Mono, so the only safe choice is native - and MeeGo is the only mobile platform where native code (Qt) is the recommended approach.

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RE: I've lost interest in meego.
by Quikee on Fri 29th Oct 2010 06:55 UTC in reply to "I've lost interest in meego."
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2010-07-06

I've lost interest in it. They are barking up the wrong tree, IMO. It seems to me like almost an open invitation to Microsoft to sue any OEM who brings out a Meego-based device.


And? If this happens they will just throw out Mono as it is not essential anyway. I don't think there is any program that is written in Mono for MeeGo, however the choice is there for developers who want to use it. MeeGo Core and UI is almost exclusively QT based, main programs are also QT based, some low level (DBus) services and libraries are GLib based (GStreamer, GeoClue).

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RE[2]: I've lost interest in meego.
by lemur2 on Fri 29th Oct 2010 08:29 UTC in reply to "RE: I've lost interest in meego."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I don't think there is any program that is written in Mono for MeeGo, however the choice is there for developers who want to use it. MeeGo Core and UI is almost exclusively QT based, main programs are also QT based, some low level (DBus) services and libraries are GLib based (GStreamer, GeoClue).


Banshee. Banshee is the default media player.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee_%28media_player%29

Meego is so keen on Banshee (and therefore Mono) apparently that they are even prepared to put up with known problems with it, as stated in their release notes:

http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.1/meego-v1.1-netbooks
Banshee player quits abnormally when adjusting volume multiple times, during full screen playback
Description: If volume is turned up or down multiple times during full screen video playback, Banshee player quits abnormally.
Workaround: Restart Banshee.
Bug 6966: Banshee auto quits when tuning volume multi-times during play, under full screen.


Meanwhile, SMPlayer and VLC are two capable, stable, well-known, cross-platform, actively developed media players which both feature a Qt-based UI.

Go figure.

Or, if Nokia & Intel wanted something really light (for low power devices), here is another choice:
http://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/index_en.php

If Nokia & Intel wanted something flashier, then here is yet another choice:
http://www.clementine-player.org/
(This one is perhaps not as stable as the others, but it does support iDevices which might be seen as a bonus).

Lots of opportunities to include a Qt-based media player without having to saddle their platform with Mono.

IMO, Meego has lost the plot. I've lost interest in it. It doesn't seem as though it is written in my best interests.

Edited 2010-10-29 08:49 UTC

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Lots of opportunities to include a Qt-based media player without having to saddle their platform with Mono.

Again: Nokia devices use a Qt based media player and don't ship Mono/Banshee.

It doesn't seem as though it is written in my best interests.


Is any Linux/BSD distro written in your best interest? gNewSense on MIPS? You should steer clear from Debian/Ubuntu/kubuntu/fedora as they all have mono in repos.

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Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

You should steer clear from Debian/Ubuntu/kubuntu/fedora as they all have mono in repos.

He's talking about having mono in your system, by default. So being subject of Microsoft patent attacks.

He's not talking about optionally installing mono.

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26


He's talking about having mono in your system, by default. So being subject of Microsoft patent attacks.

He's not talking about optionally installing mono.


Scenario: Mono becomes illegal or subject to royalties (in the same way MS is currently extorting Asus et al).

Outcome: out goes banshee, in comes another media player. Nobody but Banshee devs and fans are hurt.

Reality check time?

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Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

Reality check time?

You missed what he was talking about. That's what I wrote for. Don't talk to me like if I was him.

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vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Don't talk to me like if I was him.


Yup, call for reality check was for anti-mono brigade in general. Mono does *not* taint everything it's aggregated with.

Edited 2010-10-30 11:14 UTC

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hibridmatthias Member since:
2007-04-11

What about Canola?

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