Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Feb 2011 22:53 UTC
In the News "Internet vigilante group Anonymous turned its sights on security firm HBGary on Sunday evening in an attempt to "teach [HBGary] a lesson you'll never forget." The firm had been working with the Federal Bureau of Investigation to unmask members of Anonymous following the group's pro-WikiLeaks attacks on financial services companies, and was prepared to release its findings next week."
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interesting
by fengshaun on Tue 8th Feb 2011 03:22 UTC
fengshaun
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2010-01-18

This is getting way too interesting! Keep us updated Thom, you're the man!

On another note, it is about time people realize what "freedom" really means, and stand for it like the old times...only in a new way.

Edited 2011-02-08 03:22 UTC

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RE: interesting
by ggeldenhuys on Tue 8th Feb 2011 06:59 UTC in reply to "interesting"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

Way to go Anonymous!! :-)

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Irony
by red_devel on Tue 8th Feb 2011 04:25 UTC
red_devel
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2006-03-30

Does this group not recognize the irony in the fact that they are supposedly fighting for openess, freedom of information, and transparency and their group is called ANONYMOUS. Hypocrites much?

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RE: Irony
by r_a_trip on Tue 8th Feb 2011 08:22 UTC in reply to "Irony"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

That is a big brush of tar you wield there. Do you really think it is feasible to be a part of the resistence in the war over information, when your identity is known? How long before you find yourself detained without rights by the powers that be?

Then again one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist...

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RE: Irony
by Radio on Tue 8th Feb 2011 09:14 UTC in reply to "Irony"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

Hypocrites much?
No.

Here we have some idiot who pretends to be a security expert and who tries to sell the identity of the authors of the recent DDoS, and that idiot has not protected his emails. O the irony.

But if you want to be serious, on the pure subject of transparency,

"Privacy for the people increases their power. It also increases liberty, because it reduces the power imbalance between government and the people. Forced openness in the people -- NSA monitoring of everyone's phone calls and e-mails, the DOJ monitoring everyone's credit card transactions, surveillance cameras -- decreases liberty." -Bruce Schneier

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/12/recording_the_p.html

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RE: Irony
by sorpigal on Tue 8th Feb 2011 15:08 UTC in reply to "Irony"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

Those are not the goals. Anonymous fights for hate, lulz and desu. Any overlap with apparent goals like "freedom" "transparency" or "justice" is coincidental. If told to do something anonymous will do not what is right but what is opposite or funny or horrible, or all of the above. Or nothing.

Anonymous isn't a group, anonymous is an individual and that individual is you. I suggest you apply to a mirror for answers to any further questions.

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RE: Irony
by demetrioussharpe on Tue 8th Feb 2011 16:21 UTC in reply to "Irony"
demetrioussharpe Member since:
2009-01-09

There are certain jobs that demand the worker's identity to remain unknown in order to allow his/her job to be completed efficiently & effectively. Otherwise, it's possible that their work may follow them home. Work is work, home is home, there aren't many people who'd like the 2 to intermingle.

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Try again
by Barnabyh on Tue 8th Feb 2011 11:53 UTC
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2006-02-06

>But now, we have a situation where they’re committing a federal crime, stealing private data and posting it on a torrent," Hoglund said.<

Well, good luck catching them then, harhar >:).

I particularly like this bit:

"You brought this upon yourself. You've tried to bite at the Anonymous hand, and now the Anonymous hand is bitch-slapping you in the face. You expected a counter-attack in the form of a verbal braul (as you so eloquently put it in one of your private emails), but now you've received the full fury of Anonymous. We award you no points.

What you seem to have failed to realize is that, just because you have the title and general appearence of a "security" company, you're nothing compared to Anonymous. You have little to no security knowledge. Your business thrives off charging ridiclous prices for simple things like NMAPs, and you don't deserve praise or even recognition as security experts. And now you turn to Anonymous for fame and attention? You're a pathetic gathering of media-whoring money-grabbing sycophants who want to reel in business for your equally pathetic company."

So good old Anarcho-Punk is alive and well, it just moved onto the internet. Bite the hand that feeds you sh#t and all.

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v RE: Try again
by 3rdalbum on Tue 8th Feb 2011 14:09 UTC in reply to "Try again"
RE: Try again
by sorpigal on Tue 8th Feb 2011 15:13 UTC in reply to "Try again"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

"Before this, what these guys were doing was technically illegal, but it was in direct support of a government whistle blower. But now, we have a situation where they’re committing a federal crime, stealing private data and posting it on a torrent," Hoglund said.

All I can say is "youmustbenewhere.jpg"

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But it feels soo right
by brewmastre on Tue 8th Feb 2011 13:26 UTC
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2006-08-01

I find myself constantly having conversations about this topic at work and most people seem to be very against this. They love to go on and on about how it's illegal and they have no right to do the things that they do, but I'm just not feeling it. At what point did it become acceptable for the government to start a witch-hunt against people who have been charged with no crimes? to force people into hiding for their safety? to cut of people's funds? I'm sorry, but if you're a company, a government, or a "security" firm and you start oppressing the people of this world who are trying to stand up for what's right, then screw you, you deserve the full wrath of Anonymous.

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RE: But it feels soo right
by Soulbender on Tue 8th Feb 2011 15:19 UTC in reply to "But it feels soo right"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Civil disobedience is only good when the OTHER party is in power.

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Quick correction...
by 3rdalbum on Tue 8th Feb 2011 14:15 UTC
3rdalbum
Member since:
2008-05-26

...sorry, the leaders know some basic attacks, not just basic DoS attacks. Still it looks bad that this security company's own security was so slack that even Anonymous could get in.

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HBGary?
by coreyography on Wed 9th Feb 2011 02:08 UTC
coreyography
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2009-03-06

Never heard of them, least of all in the security arena. Now I guess I know why...

Edited 2011-02-09 02:08 UTC

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